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As the title explains, this particular guide will tell you what to write, when to write it, and where to write it. The WWW of OCG, If I can say it myself. In other words,
SENTENCE CONSTRUCTION

The most important part of the WWW is the time factor. The effects on a card should be written in the order they are triggered. Let's have a look at Black Rose Dragon's effect for a minute.


Take a closer look at points one, two, and three. First, there are the Synchro Materials, which shall always be written first. This might seem obvious, but it's only there because it follows the above trigger order rule. That part of the effect triggers while in the Extra Deck: The initial position for a Synchro Monster.

The second point triggers when the monster is Synchro Summoned, just after the Material has been sent to the Graveyard. Obviously, it comes next.

The third effect maintains while the monster is face-up on the field, which obviously is after the monster has been Synchro Summoned.

So, then you've learned the basics of the Trigger Order. But what about destruction? Monsters are destroyed all the time, when and where are we supposed to write that?

Well, the answer to that lies in the Trigger Order as well. Let's say we were upgrading the effect of Black Rose Dragon to better suit our needs. We'll add an effect when it destroys a monster by battle, and when it is destroyed itself.


As you can see now, the fourth and fifth effects place themselves at the end, all thanks to the Trigger Order. The monster is obviously face-up on the field - which is needed for the third effect - before it destroys a monster by battle. So, the fourth is placed after the third.

IMPORTANT!The fifth, on the other hand, does not place itself after the fourth. It places itself at the end, which might not seem like much of a difference. But if you are going to add other effects, always add them before any effect that activates when the monster is destroyed. The destruction marks the end of the monster's lifespan, and therefore shouldn't have anything placed after it.


Notebook:
Whens and Ifs: There is a difference.


The above effects belong to Pyramid Turtle and Apprentice Magician, two very similar monsters in their effects. However, one of the uses “When” and the other uses “If.” Why, you might ask. I'll tell you why in a minute.

First I will explain the difference between Whens and Ifs. Whens are usually more specific than Ifs, as can be seen above. Pyramid Turtle won't summon another Zombie once it has been destroyed by battle AND sent to the Graveyard, whereas the Apprentice Magician only needs itself to be destroyed by battle. However, a few selected monsters use very specific Ifs, such as Destiny Hero-Fear Monger. But in general, Ifs only need one specific thing to happen, while the Whens need more than one. Take a second look at the upgraded Black Rose Dragon we made above.

That's all for now.
This helps, some of the newbies'll need this..
Nice it helped!!!10/10
I've got it bookmarked, just incase, but the official OCG thread is still more useful. Sorry ;(
(11-02-2008 04:46 PM)KillerxKid Wrote: [ -> ]I've got it bookmarked, just incase, but the official OCG thread is still more useful. Sorry ;(

Obviously it's more useful. The Official thread tells you what you need to know, the terminology and the usage of it. Basically, the first of three W's, the What to write. This guide tells you of the two later ones, the Where to write and When to write.
I think both threads help. The OCG thread helps with basic OCG, while this goes more in depth with effects. I am so gonna use this. Wink

EDIT: The When/If issue bugs me all the time. I still don't get when to use which one.
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EDIT: The When/If issue bugs me all the time. I still don't get when to use which one.

If you look at the upgraded Black Rose Dragon again. The "If" effect refers to it destroying a monster by battle. Therefore, it is limited to destruction by battle. The effect won't activate if you destroy it with the first effect. However, the "When" effect activates when the monster itself is destroyed.

If you let me go complicated for a while, I'll say this. The If waits for a condition to be filled, while the When waits for something to happen. I don't know what it's called in English, but over here we call it "active and passive verbs". Destroying is not the same as being destroyed, right? The If is applied for active verbs, whilst the When is for passive.

Hope you understood parts of it.
you should get that stickied & hope that helps the n00bs here
Yeah, that's confusing. Active and passive? :S I still don't get it. W/e. Bookmarked. I need this.
(11-03-2008 10:39 AM)BlueKyubbi Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, that's confusing. Active and passive? :S I still don't get it. W/e. Bookmarked. I need this.

As I said, I don't know the English word for the verb forms. I'll try to explain them, and maybe one of you could fill me in on the terms?

Active Verbs: When you are doing the verb. (e.g. to destroy, to remove from play.)

Passive Verbs: When the verb is being done to you. (e.g. to be destroyed, to be removed from play.)

EDIT: Found a good site. (It is called active and passive verbs!)
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/g...tpass.html
LAWL!!! ^^^

Good job umbra ^.^
This is very helpfully.
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