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Dªrĸ · 11-06-2009, 09:30 PM

Cress is 47? D:

Someone explain that to me. Someone explain why one of the best Physical and Mixed Walls in the game is 47th.

Tekken Ham · 11-06-2009, 09:46 PM

Tyranitar sets up on it and CBScizor is number 1 and runs Pursuit.

**Flame Dragon** · 11-06-2009, 09:48 PM

(11-06-2009 09:30 PM)Dªrĸ Wrote: Cress is 47? D:

Someone explain that to me. Someone explain why one of the best Physical and Mixed Walls in the game is 47th.

She can't fight back really. Plus Scizor just rapes it and it doesn't have a decent heal move outside of Rest.

Dªrĸ · 11-06-2009, 10:12 PM

Cresselia with Max HP and a good amount of DEF with Reflect up can easily live through a CB, Technician Scizor using Pursuit while Cress flees.

I think. Someone do a damage calc on that.

**Flame Dragon** · (This post was last modified: 11-06-2009 10:55 PM by Flame Dragon.)

(11-06-2009 10:12 PM)Dªrĸ Wrote: Cresselia with Max HP and a good amount of DEF with Reflect up can easily live through a CB, Technician Scizor using Pursuit while Cress flees.

I think. Someone do a damage calc on that.

I'm trying to do the math now and it is so hard, it really is.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/damage_formula

Have fun if you want to try.

I don't think Cress will walk away without a chunk of it's HP gone, but that is just me.

Yea, I've been playing with the numbers and for things I know would, lets say kill a heatran, I'm getting that they won't. I'm likely doing it wrong, but I'm not able to help with the math.

Tekken Ham · 11-06-2009, 11:39 PM

Cress can either Rest or Moonlight. Moonlight is hampered by SS which is common. Cress can obviously live the pursuit, but it will not like it at all. With Scizor's amazing popularity, the #1 used poke always dents Cress and forces it out. Also Garchomp is on the suspect ballot. Which means a possibility of an OU Chomp. Which means a revival of SS teams. Which means Cress just dies.

Felix · (This post was last modified: 11-07-2009 11:59 AM by Felix.)

If it did live through that it can't come back in and expect to take another hit before it heals, it'll either die or be crippled. I figured you would say Mence, but it's probably not for the reason I thought it might be. Regardless of weather it can live through it, you shouldn't really be relying on it.

I'm going to start playing a bit more before Zex's tourney so if you feel like getting an easy win before it starts, be my guest.

**Flame Dragon** · 11-07-2009, 06:04 PM

(11-06-2009 11:39 PM)Tekken Ham Wrote: Cress can either Rest or Moonlight. Moonlight is hampered by SS which is common. Cress can obviously live the pursuit, but it will not like it at all. With Scizor's amazing popularity, the #1 used poke always dents Cress and forces it out. Also Garchomp is on the suspect ballot. Which means a possibility of an OU Chomp. Which means a revival of SS teams. Which means Cress just dies.

Odds of Chomp coming back into OU are small. He has had a bloody 79.11% useage there. Even in uber he sits at 13.32% which is great seeing as how it puts him a head of several well known ubers.

Keera · 11-19-2009, 06:37 PM

(11-06-2009 10:32 PM)Flame Dragon Wrote:
(11-06-2009 10:12 PM)Dªrĸ Wrote: Cresselia with Max HP and a good amount of DEF with Reflect up can easily live through a CB, Technician Scizor using Pursuit while Cress flees.

I think. Someone do a damage calc on that.
I'm trying to do the math now and it is so hard, it really is.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/damage_formula

Have fun if you want to try.

I don't think Cress will walk away without a chunk of it's HP gone, but that is just me.

Yea, I've been playing with the numbers and for things I know would, lets say kill a heatran, I'm getting that they won't. I'm likely doing it wrong, but I'm not able to help with the math.

I'm not going to attempt that calculation....My brain hurts just from the explantion....