Poll: Which one?

~~Corporal Atlas~~ · 11-03-2009, 02:37 PM

Being an agnostic is the only sensible choice.

Ezio · 11-03-2009, 02:42 PM

(11-03-2009 02:37 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote: Being an agnostic is the only sensible choice.

Explain your logic...

~~Corporal Atlas~~ · 11-03-2009, 02:44 PM

Are we operating under the idea of what we believe in or what we think to be true?

Ezio · 11-03-2009, 03:01 PM

As an atheist, the latter. And I see your point. But Atheism, unlike religion, doesn't have a set chronology of events that happened. It is based on theories, which seems to be most logical/reasonable and has the most scientific evidence. The "big bang" and evolution for example. Seem logical, there is evidence.

~~Corporal Atlas~~ · 11-03-2009, 03:10 PM

Yeah, I pretty much agree with atheism, as at least the gods most people think exist don't make much sense logically or morally for that matter. But the ever-existent idea of uncertainty means that to say something is absolutely true isn't the correct stance to take. You can firmly believe in something, but in the end being Agnostic seems like the sensible standpoint. If we're going by what you believe to be so I's either be an atheist, but perhaps even then I would be agnostic.

TwilightAvian · 11-03-2009, 03:24 PM

Devoted Christian.

However, unlike most Christians, I'm not a over-religion person like most. But I'm Christian.

Nightmare Zarkus · 11-03-2009, 04:08 PM

I dunno. I guess it would be closest to Deism.

Lexadin · 11-03-2009, 04:15 PM

I don't know, I have my own kind of believe but if the choice is between being a Athiest or a Christian, I'm a Athiest.

Cyndaquil · 11-03-2009, 04:29 PM

Srsly?
guess.. just guess
~~Atheist~~

Ezio · 11-03-2009, 04:31 PM

(11-03-2009 03:10 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote: Yeah, I pretty much agree with atheism, as at least the gods most people think exist don't make much sense logically or morally for that matter. But the ever-existent idea of uncertainty means that to say something is absolutely true isn't the correct stance to take. You can firmly believe in something, but in the end being Agnostic seems like the sensible standpoint. If we're going by what you believe to be so I's either be an atheist, but perhaps even then I would be agnostic.

In my opinion, the sensible standpoint is definitely atheism. But people have their opinions, and I respect and understand your beliefs more than I do anyone of any ancient religion, or any deistic religion.

The Dark One · 11-03-2009, 06:36 PM

(11-03-2009 04:31 PM)Creed Wrote:
(11-03-2009 03:10 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote: Yeah, I pretty much agree with atheism, as at least the gods most people think exist don't make much sense logically or morally for that matter. But the ever-existent idea of uncertainty means that to say something is absolutely true isn't the correct stance to take. You can firmly believe in something, but in the end being Agnostic seems like the sensible standpoint. If we're going by what you believe to be so I's either be an atheist, but perhaps even then I would be agnostic.

In my opinion, the sensible standpoint is definitely atheism. But people have their opinions, and I respect and understand your beliefs more than I do anyone of any ancient religion, or any deistic religion.

There is no way to absolutely disprove the existence of a god or gods.

Therefore atheism as a theoretical position is stupid. However, keep in mind that this same concept justifies the possible existence of flying spaghetti monsters, mutant potatoes with a vendetta, and unicorns. So it's pretty sensible to surmise that a god or gods does not exist.

This being said, the possibility of such an existence must be admitted. Thus agnosticism.

Shradow · 11-03-2009, 06:39 PM

Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

Dark Phoenix · 11-03-2009, 06:44 PM

(11-03-2009 06:39 PM)Shradow Wrote: Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

That's pathetic. If you can have a load of online people persuade you to change your beliefs, you don't deserve to have them.

~~Corporal Atlas~~ · 11-03-2009, 06:46 PM

(11-03-2009 06:44 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:39 PM)Shradow Wrote: Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

That's pathetic. If you can have a load of online people persuade you to change your beliefs, you don't deserve to have them.

Apparently not being thick-headed is pathetic nowadays. :S

Dark Phoenix · 11-03-2009, 06:52 PM

(11-03-2009 06:46 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:44 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:39 PM)Shradow Wrote: Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

That's pathetic. If you can have a load of online people persuade you to change your beliefs, you don't deserve to have them.

Apparently not being thick-headed is pathetic nowadays. :S

Are you referring to not thinking on your own, or not allowing others to persuade you?

Revolver Amethyst · 11-03-2009, 06:54 PM

(11-03-2009 06:46 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:44 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:39 PM)Shradow Wrote: Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

That's pathetic. If you can have a load of online people persuade you to change your beliefs, you don't deserve to have them.

Apparently not being thick-headed is pathetic nowadays. :S

Apparently open-minded means "easily swayed" nowadays.

~~Corporal Atlas~~ · 11-03-2009, 07:00 PM

What do you mean Amethyst? You seem to be confirming what I said if anything. That isn't usually the case with responses on YCM in that matter, so I'm just checking.

(11-03-2009 06:52 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:46 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:44 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:39 PM)Shradow Wrote: Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

That's pathetic. If you can have a load of online people persuade you to change your beliefs, you don't deserve to have them.

Apparently not being thick-headed is pathetic nowadays. :S

Are you referring to not thinking on your own, or not allowing others to persuade you?

You acted like the fact that him being persuaded was pathetic.

Revolver Amethyst · 11-03-2009, 07:04 PM

I think I was taking more of a middle ground.

An argument on the internet, if it's actually good, could most definitely convince people.

However, many people just say someone's being close-minded or some such when they aren't convincing them and act like open-minded = easily swayed, and use that as justification for their victory.

Lazer Yoshi · 11-03-2009, 07:04 PM

I'm a proud Christian. =)

Dark Phoenix · 11-03-2009, 07:06 PM

(11-03-2009 07:00 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote: What do you mean Amethyst? You seem to be confirming what I said if anything. That isn't usually the case with responses on YCM in that matter, so I'm just checking.

(11-03-2009 06:52 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:46 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:44 PM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:
(11-03-2009 06:39 PM)Shradow Wrote: Christian/Atheist

One tends to change spending a lot of time in a place like YCM.

That's pathetic. If you can have a load of online people persuade you to change your beliefs, you don't deserve to have them.

Apparently not being thick-headed is pathetic nowadays. :S

Are you referring to not thinking on your own, or not allowing others to persuade you?
You acted like the fact that him being persuaded was pathetic.

I suppose it's more of me than anything, because I personally believe that only you should change your major beliefs ( a religion specifically).

Poll: Which one?
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