Who was the greatest conqueror?

[Lazaruz]

(11-03-2009 08:34 PM)DemonX Wrote:  They are all good conquerors but I vote Alexander the Great because I also like his battle plans

[Unorthodox Simplicity]

But first, one must take into account that the armies are sometimes the ones who win the battles regardless of command. Though Rome often lost legions not due to poor training or soldiers, but do to inexperienced, proud generals. Alexander the Great of Macedonia was a man who thought on his toes, if a challenge was presented in battle, he instantly thought up a solution (though sometimes bold) to it which often resulted in a decisive victory. But... one must keep in mind that the army Alexander was first created by of Phillip II (Alexander's father) in the first place and Phillip used its pikemen to destroy the Athenians and conquer Greece. Plus, Persian armies were NOTHING in comparison to armored pikemen each with a sarissa (pike) about twenty feet long. though Darius (king of Persia) could rally hundreds of thousands of men to his wars, he would be lucky to have more than an fifth of them in armor. Taking persia was cake for Alexander due to the superier army, ability for Alexander to leave Macedonia while providing food and water for his marching army, and becuase there was always a place to go back to (like the cities Alexander conquered along the way). Though Alexander's brilliant thinking most likely was why his armies were so successful, not to mention the fact that he'd ride in the front line of battle. If that doesn't make you feel like the general's with you, I don't know what will.

Yet another example of how an army can surpass its leadership may be in the form of humanity. Though Julius Caesar conquered the Guals, one of Rome's greatest enemies, he was noted for killing retreating troops with his own sword in his earlier days. I suppose a general is made, not born. He learned to treat his men differently and not as a general was "supposed" to.

In any event, History is far to riddeled with great men that pin pointing the best is hard to do. But as far as all aspects go, Alexander the Great must be the greatest conquerer of all time. Mostly becuase he conquered more land in one lifetime than any other man in history while topling one the greatest empires on earth while expanding his empire farther than any man had done in so short a time.

I would also think Genghis Khan would be one of the greatest conquerers of all time.

You actually forgot Ivan the Terrible because he was the one who brought Russia to it's great size as it's now today.

[insonic]

Genghis Khan, fo shizzle.
"Part one, conquer Mongolia; part two, conquer everyone else."

[OMGAKITTY]

Cortez. Managed to troll an entire civilization into thinking he was a god, then killed them all with accidental bio-warfare. After trapping all his men by burning his boats. What a badass.

[Napoléon]

(11-03-2009 08:33 PM)X-31 Fighter Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur

Timur Lane

I used his nickname I guess.

Also you know how many Williams are out there?

Personally I would vote for Napoleon, he is a really crazy dude during his time.

Also tied with Alexander, a person who destroyed the Persian deserves to be known.

Alexander planned on conquering Europe, Arabia, and even more. Dude would've done it too if it weren't for those crazy kids and their meddling dog.

(11-03-2009 08:35 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:  Ceasar by far.

Ceasar conquered France. Hitler did that in 2 days.

(11-03-2009 08:38 PM)Lazer Yoshi Wrote:  Alexander, if it's the one you're talking about, was a great leader for Rome.

No. Greece, or even more specifically, Macedonia.

[OMGAKITTY]

(11-04-2009 07:02 PM)Napoléon Wrote:  

(11-03-2009 08:35 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:  Ceasar by far.

Ceasar conquered France. Hitler did that in 2 days.

But the France Hitler conquered was much less of a badass than the Gauls. By the time Hitler rolled around, all the awesome people in France had managed to get killed.

[Revolver Amethyst]

I haven't studied every one of them in depth, and some not at all, so going on that I'd have to say I like Alexander the Great the most.

[Napoléon]

(11-04-2009 07:08 PM)OMGAKITTY Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:02 PM)Napoléon Wrote:  

(11-03-2009 08:35 PM)Corporal Atlas Wrote:  Ceasar by far.

Ceasar conquered France. Hitler did that in 2 days.

But the France Hitler conquered was much less of a badass than the Gauls. By the time Hitler rolled around, all the awesome people in France had managed to get killed.

True, the Gauls had freaking throwing axes as a primary weapon. But yeah, its still the same country.

[kitty princess]

Hitler - conquered the Jews
Sadam Hussen - conquered Iraq (technically)
Fidel Castro conquered Cuba (technically)

[Napoléon]

(11-04-2009 07:32 PM)kitty princess Wrote:  Hitler - conquered the Jews
Sadam Hussen - conquered Iraq (technically)
Fidel Castro conquered Cuba (technically)

Hitler did not invade Israel. All he did was gas the jews, gypsies, retards, and homosexuals. He didn't conquer them. He CONQUERED France and most of the rest of Europe.

Saddam? He already was in control of his country.

Castro? Ditto.

[Dªrĸ]

I'll go out on a limb and say Genghis Khan.

[Christian Exodia]

(11-04-2009 07:41 PM)Napoléon Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:32 PM)kitty princess Wrote:  Hitler - conquered the Jews
Sadam Hussen - conquered Iraq (technically)
Fidel Castro conquered Cuba (technically)

Hitler did not invade Israel. All he did was gas the jews, gypsies, retards, and homosexuals. He didn't conquer them. He CONQUERED France and most of the rest of Europe. Right. And before capturing & gassing them, killing them by labor, down right killing them, or experimenting on some them, he pushed some of them into the close corners of the Middle & West East. But some escaped to England, the only safehouse reachable easily, some did, like the Queen of Amsterdam, which city was bombed, but they were lucky. Rottendam was destroyed.

Saddam? He already was in control of his country.Don't know much. I was too young to know. But he was the leader of Al-Queda, a infamous band of high crooks bent on things i'm unknown to, sent messages(Like a warning or something), which led to 9/11.

Castro? Ditto.Don't have much to say here.

My bits of knowledge on these conquerers. Though I think Napoleon Boneparte I was the best.

[problematica]

(11-04-2009 08:39 PM)Christian Exodia Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:41 PM)Napoléon Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:32 PM)kitty princess Wrote:  Hitler - conquered the Jews
Sadam Hussen - conquered Iraq (technically)
Fidel Castro conquered Cuba (technically)

Saddam? He already was in control of his country.Don't know much. I was too young to know. But he was the leader of Al-Queda, a infamous band of high crooks bent on things i'm unknown to, sent messages(Like a warning or something), which led to 9/11.

My bits of knowledge on these conquerers. Though I think Napoleon Boneparte I was the best.

I just have to point out how incorrect and stupid this is. Saddam was the f***ing President of Iraq, where the hell did you hear all this Al-Qaeda stuff? And how the hell could you not know who Al-Qaeda is? Saddam had absolutely no connections to Al-Qaeda other than fighting against it. Everyone outside the US and their grandmothers knew that Saddam and Bin Laden openly hated one another and had skirmishes before, during, and after the first Gulf War.

And I believe Temujin, Genghis Khan, to be the greatest conquerer of all time. Though he died, the Mongol Empire still continued to grow into the largest contiguous empire in the history of the world. He also had a really badass god.

[Death Metal]

The Vikings =D

[Hell-Razor]

Are none of mine great conquerers?

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[Napoléon]

(11-04-2009 08:39 PM)Christian Exodia Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:41 PM)Napoléon Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:32 PM)kitty princess Wrote:  Hitler - conquered the Jews
Sadam Hussen - conquered Iraq (technically)
Fidel Castro conquered Cuba (technically)

Hitler did not invade Israel. All he did was gas the jews, gypsies, retards, and homosexuals. He didn't conquer them. He CONQUERED France and most of the rest of Europe. Right. And before capturing & gassing them, killing them by labor, down right killing them, or experimenting on some them, he pushed some of them into the close corners of the Middle & West East. But some escaped to England, the only safehouse reachable easily, some did, like the Queen of Amsterdam, which city was bombed, but they were lucky. Rottendam was destroyed.

Saddam? He already was in control of his country.Don't know much. I was too young to know. But he was the leader of Al-Queda, a infamous band of high crooks bent on things i'm unknown to, sent messages(Like a warning or something), which led to 9/11.

Castro? Ditto.Don't have much to say here.

My bits of knowledge on these conquerers. Though I think Napoleon Boneparte I was the best.

Get out of my thread.

(11-04-2009 11:29 PM)problematica Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 08:39 PM)Christian Exodia Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:41 PM)Napoléon Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 07:32 PM)kitty princess Wrote:  Hitler - conquered the Jews
Sadam Hussen - conquered Iraq (technically)
Fidel Castro conquered Cuba (technically)

Saddam? He already was in control of his country.Don't know much. I was too young to know. But he was the leader of Al-Queda, a infamous band of high crooks bent on things i'm unknown to, sent messages(Like a warning or something), which led to 9/11.

My bits of knowledge on these conquerers. Though I think Napoleon Boneparte I was the best.

I just have to point out how incorrect and stupid this is. Saddam was the f***ing President of Iraq, where the hell did you hear all this Al-Qaeda stuff? And how the hell could you not know who Al-Qaeda is? Saddam had absolutely no connections to Al-Qaeda other than fighting against it. Everyone outside the US and their grandmothers knew that Saddam and Bin Laden openly hated one another and had skirmishes before, during, and after the first Gulf War.

And I believe Temujin, Genghis Khan, to be the greatest conquerer of all time. Though he died, the Mongol Empire still continued to grow into the largest contiguous empire in the history of the world. He also had a really badass god.

Genghis Khan did conquer most of Asia. Impressive.

[Hell-Razor]

And again no answer for me.. How rude

[Napoléon]

(11-03-2009 11:22 PM)Hell-Razor Wrote:  Xerxes was he not a great conqueror?
There must be a viking that is famously known, they bloody conquered heaps
Cyrus the great
Alexander 1 of russia
Surely there was some south american conqueror?



Probably Genghis Kahn do...

stop whining. x_x

technically Hernando Cortez and Pizzarro were conquerors, but they didn't take command of the land they conquered. They just conquered it. :/

As far as I remember, Xerxes inherited most of his empire.

Cyrus was a conqueror, I'll look into him more.

No direct viking conqueror. They were more raiders than empire-builders.

[Greek God George]

I vote for Alexander the Great.