Gnostic or Hermetic? [I'm sad. Why is this less successful than Atheism vs Christ.?]

[Opalmoon]

This is a religion poll.

What are you, Gnostic or Hermetic?

And remember THERE ARE ONLY 2 CHOICES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, don't try to sneak your way around.

[Dªrĸ]

Again, I know absolutely nothing about either, so I'll go with Hermeticism, because it sounds like hermit. Hermit is associated with crabs, and crabs evolve into Crab Helmet.

[Bloodline Massacre]

(11-04-2009 08:50 PM)Dªrĸ Wrote:  Again, I know absolutely nothing about either, so I'll go with Hermeticism, because it sounds like hermit. Hermit is associated with crabs, and crabs evolve into Crab Helmet.

This.

[~TwIsTeD~]

(11-04-2009 09:14 PM).Gandora. Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 08:50 PM)Dªrĸ Wrote:  Again, I know absolutely nothing about either, so I'll go with Hermeticism, because it sounds like hermit. Hermit is associated with crabs, and crabs evolve into Crab Helmet.

This.

Is. Cool.

[Muluck]

I am more Hermetic than anything else.

Considers humanity to be on a spiritual journey to return to a state of unity with the Divine; this is the Great Work of humankind.
Holds that if we would attain to the Divine, we must aspire to the Divine; spiritual growth cannot be achieved without human effort
Teaches that when we seek the Divine, we may best begin with the Mysteries of Nature
Encourages spiritual curiosity
Understands that human beings can access the Subtle Realms through technique and aspiration; to this end, it embraces theurgy, meditation, ritual, and other spiritual and magical practices
Is a poetic rather than an ascetic worldview


Is what makes me more Hermetic than anything else.

[Death Metal]

Hermeticism sounds like a better choice.

[Hell-Razor]

What the hell do they mean? Im to lazy to read..

Theres why christian vs atheist is more popular then this

[Opalmoon]

(11-04-2009 10:36 PM)Muluck Wrote:  I am more Hermetic than anything else.

Considers humanity to be on a spiritual journey to return to a state of unity with the Divine; this is the Great Work of humankind.
Holds that if we would attain to the Divine, we must aspire to the Divine; spiritual growth cannot be achieved without human effort
Teaches that when we seek the Divine, we may best begin with the Mysteries of Nature
Encourages spiritual curiosity
Understands that human beings can access the Subtle Realms through technique and aspiration; to this end, it embraces theurgy, meditation, ritual, and other spiritual and magical practices
Is a poetic rather than an ascetic worldview


Is what makes me more Hermetic than anything else.

You can read well master.=P

[Muluck]

(11-05-2009 04:03 AM)Hell-Razor Wrote:  What the hell do they mean? Im to lazy to read..

Theres why christian vs atheist is more popular then this

You are too lazy to read, yet you read the topic.
You are too lazy to read, yet you have read the Christian Vs. Atheist thread.
You are too lazy to read, yet you know enough to make a decision between the Christian Vs. Atheist topic.
You are too lazy to read, so why did you post here if you are not willing take part in this Poll?

(11-06-2009 09:23 AM)Opalmoon Wrote:  

(11-04-2009 10:36 PM)Muluck Wrote:  I am more Hermetic than anything else.

Considers humanity to be on a spiritual journey to return to a state of unity with the Divine; this is the Great Work of humankind.
Holds that if we would attain to the Divine, we must aspire to the Divine; spiritual growth cannot be achieved without human effort
Teaches that when we seek the Divine, we may best begin with the Mysteries of Nature
Encourages spiritual curiosity
Understands that human beings can access the Subtle Realms through technique and aspiration; to this end, it embraces theurgy, meditation, ritual, and other spiritual and magical practices
Is a poetic rather than an ascetic worldview


Is what makes me more Hermetic than anything else.

You can read well master.=P

Why thank you, may I ask which one you are?

Also, I do not have power over anyone and yet you call me master, why?

[Opalmoon]

^I call everyone master.
Death Metal, Gandora, Dismal Euphony and Sushi are my main masters.

[Dªrĸ]

(11-06-2009 01:48 PM)Opalmoon Wrote:  ^I call everyone master.
Dark, Death Metal, Gandora, Dismal Euphony and Sushi are my main masters.

Why, I'm flattered. Also, I have fixed up your post, as it was originally wrong.

[Bloodline Massacre]

(11-06-2009 01:48 PM)Opalmoon Wrote:  ^I call everyone master.
Death Metal, Gandora, Dismal Euphony and Sushi are my main masters.

I love you too.

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

I choose the one that's more beautiful.

[Opalmoon]

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-...age-5.html --> >=/

So, anything new here guys?

[The Dark One]

I find Gnosticism to be rather sensible to be honest.

Just, it holds that the True God is good. Which makes no sense. Because any change to its essence must have been enacted by A. Itself or B. something outside its scope. Meaning it's not the True God after all.

So religiously-founded morality basically goes out the window. God is evil.

This is, of course, overlooking my belief that the very concept of a god is rather ridiculous.

[Phantasmal Revenant]

If I had to choose, hermetic.

[Lazaruz]

(11-10-2009 06:32 PM)Phantasmal Revenant Wrote:  If I had to choose, hermetic.

This

[Opalmoon]

(11-09-2009 05:27 PM)The Dark One Wrote:  I find Gnosticism to be rather sensible to be honest.

Just, it holds that the True God is good. Which makes no sense. Because any change to its essence must have been enacted by A. Itself or B. something outside its scope. Meaning it's not the True God after all.

So religiously-founded morality basically goes out the window. God is evil.

This is, of course, overlooking my belief that the very concept of a god is rather ridiculous.

It is a sensible ideology.
At least it's a way to explain the existence of evil in the world and they put up a real complicated background story to support it. Tough stuff.

And yeah I'm having trouble with that god and goodness/evilness perception too, aside from the fact that morality isn't a main aspect of Gnosticism. It's considered good if it comes from that divine spark inside of you (not sure how you can pull that out though ) but not if it's about ready-made rules that are thought to bring salvation like in some other religions.

The way I got it, the demiurge/creator is an antagonistic force (kinda like Satan) mostly because Sophia emanated without her male counterpart (Jesus (not as the human Jesus but he's a higher force here)). So without the divine. Or the "receipt of divine assent", whatever that means.
He would have been a rightful Aeon like the others if she hadn't tried to get past the way everyone else uses. Also, since that demiurge is not a primary force, but created via an emanation it's automatically lower than the real, highest god. That doesn't imply that the real god can't be perfect or that it's enacted by something outside its scope. Everytime an aeon or other force emanates it contains less divine part of god.
I guess that plus the nature of Sophia's emanation are what made the demiurge a flawed and lesser force.
...somehow like that

Quote:All things are derived from the first reality or perfect god by steps of degradation to lesser degrees of the first reality or God, and at every step the emanating beings are less pure, less perfect, less divine. Emanationism is a transcendent principle from which everything is derived, and is opposed to both Creationism (wherein the universe is created by a sentient God who is separate from creation) and materialism (which posits no underlying subjective and/or ontological nature behind phenomena, being immanent).

[Death Metal]

(11-06-2009 01:48 PM)Opalmoon Wrote:  ^I call everyone master.
Death Metal, Gandora, Dismal Euphony and Sushi are my main masters.

Oh master, you flatter me.

(11-06-2009 07:50 PM)♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥ Wrote:  I choose the one that's more beautiful.

Religion is never beautiful.

You conceited little girl. =/