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Flandre Scarlet · (This post was last modified: 09-14-2009 06:22 AM by Flandre Scarlet.)

I have one Change to ask for the Tag system.....

I saw the amount of Topics locked and freaked(I seriously hate looking at a Locked Topic, except ones with "Lock" or something similar in the Title, Especially if it has my posts in it), but that gave me an Idea, To Minimize the amount of seemingly unreasonably Locked RPs, How about Treating the Tagless RPs as if Tagged with an Advanced Tag instead of locking them?

Otaku-sama · 09-14-2009, 06:58 AM

Well, like what Rinne said, the only way for new rules to stick to the common RPer is to be consistent and firm. If we change the rules now, people will stop listening, demanding more changes. We need to wait a while for the members to get used to the label system before making changes.

Phantom Roxas · 09-14-2009, 09:38 AM

(09-14-2009 06:18 AM)Flandre Scarlet Wrote: I have one Change to ask for the Tag system.....

I saw the amount of Topics locked and freaked(I seriously hate looking at a Locked Topic, except ones with "Lock" or something similar in the Title, Especially if it has my posts in it), but that gave me an Idea, To Minimize the amount of seemingly unreasonably Locked RPs, How about Treating the Tagless RPs as if Tagged with an Advanced Tag instead of locking them?

Actually, I quite like the Tag System. Really, it only takes another second or two just to add a tag. If you're tired of seeing the huge amounts of locked topics, then that's just another reason for why there should be a Trash section.

**✖ Jack Atlus ✖** · 09-14-2009, 09:43 AM

(09-14-2009 06:18 AM)Flandre Scarlet Wrote: I have one Change to ask for the Tag system.....

I saw the amount of Topics locked and freaked(I seriously hate looking at a Locked Topic, except ones with "Lock" or something similar in the Title, Especially if it has my posts in it), but that gave me an Idea, To Minimize the amount of seemingly unreasonably Locked RPs, How about Treating the Tagless RPs as if Tagged with an Advanced Tag instead of locking them?

My suggestion to Rinne was that if it's non-tagged then it's a basic RP.

Phantom Roxas · 09-14-2009, 09:52 AM

Which pretty much brings us back to how things were before the Advanced Clause was implemented, thus making all previous discussion pointless.

**Déjà Cru** · 09-14-2009, 04:24 PM

(09-14-2009 09:43 AM)Sheena Fujibayashi Wrote: My suggestion to Rinne was that if it's non-tagged then it's a basic RP.

First time I heard that suggestion...

Blazinghydra · 09-14-2009, 07:23 PM

I like the large amount of locking. It forces the people to read the rules, which is always a plus.

Actually, I think the worst possible thing we could do is treat untagged as Basic. Not only would that piss off everyone with any stake in the debate at all, it would only start the entire storm all over again in a month or two.

Flandre Scarlet · (This post was last modified: 09-15-2009 05:20 AM by Flandre Scarlet.)

^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause, Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

Blazinghydra · (This post was last modified: 09-15-2009 07:28 AM by Blazinghydra.)

That would be a lot harder to enforce, though, than simply locking anything without a tag.

In my opinion, anyone lazy enough not to check the rules, probably wouldn't be the type of person to RP Advanced anyway. Giving them the benefit of the doubt in that manner would probably just increase the workload on the bunch of mods unnecessarily.

Sides', now that the initial mass-locking's over, I figure the rule will become commonplace if we don't meddle for a while. People take the effort to follow the rules, only when they're consistent, and when a punishment is clearly outlined for them.

Phantom Roxas · 09-15-2009, 09:00 AM

(09-15-2009 05:15 AM)Flandre Scarlet Wrote: ^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause, Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

I find your logic terrible. If people are too lazy to do something as simply as stating whether or not the RP is Advanced, then how do you expect them to keep up with the Advanced Clause?

Flandre Scarlet · (This post was last modified: 09-15-2009 04:18 PM by Flandre Scarlet.)

(09-15-2009 09:00 AM)Phantom Roxas Wrote:
(09-15-2009 05:15 AM)Flandre Scarlet Wrote: ^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause, Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

I find your logic terrible. If people are too lazy to do something as simply as stating whether or not the RP is Advanced, then how do you expect them to keep up with the Advanced Clause?

I find your ability to understand my logic is worse off

If we took Sheena's Suggestion, Then Lazy people wouldn't have to do any work to RP using the Basic Clause

If we took My suggestion, It is like an Intro to the Tag system for the Lazy people, They would either be forced to RP in the Advanced Clause, or Use the Tag system, Therefore they would have to do some work either way..... and Minimize Locked Topics

Blazinghydra · 09-15-2009, 04:01 PM

(09-15-2009 03:55 PM)Flandre Scarlet Wrote:
(09-15-2009 09:00 AM)Phantom Roxas Wrote:
(09-15-2009 05:15 AM)Flandre Scarlet Wrote: ^^Which is exactly why i asked for Tagless ones to be treated as Advanced Clause, Which is Basically the Inverse of before Making the Advanced Clause Official, Therefore Everyone can go home happy (I Also hate wars of any kind on Forums)

How you say? From a lazy mans perspective, adding a tag is work, so they never want to do it, Then again So is writing in the Advanced Clause, Therefore they Either add a Tag, or RP with the Advanced Clause

I find your logic terrible. If people are too lazy to do something as simply as stating whether or not the RP is Advanced, then how do you expect them to keep up with the Advanced Clause?

Your ability to understand my logic is worse off

If we took Sheena's Suggestion, Then Lazy people wouldn't have to do any work to RP using the Basic Clause

If we took My suggestion, It is like an Intro to the Tag system for the Lazy people, They would either be forced to RP in the Advanced Clause, or Use the Tag system, Therefore they would have to do some work either way..... and Minimize Locked Topics

Except everyone who doesn't put a tag is probably doing so because they didn't read the rules.
If they didn't read the rules, they probably aren't going to RP Advanced.
Which would mean they'd get locked anyway. Except locking them would take three times as long, because this time a mod has to personally read through to RP to check the quality instead of locking on sight.

Otaku-sama · 09-15-2009, 05:20 PM

I've also seen that now with the label system, it shows that the Elite RPers really do not have the majority of the forum. 90% of the RPs in the forum are basic. We should give an incentive for Advanced RPs.

Skuldur · 09-15-2009, 05:22 PM

The thing is, when people don't have to RP well, they get lazy and make 1 liners.

This will become just as it was before the Advanced Clause was implemented as a rule.

Phantom Roxas · 09-15-2009, 05:36 PM

So, we have two options:

1) Keep things as they are, continuing the chaos.
2) RPs without tags are treated as basic, which means:

(09-15-2009 05:22 PM)Skuldur Wrote: This will become just as it was before the Advanced Clause was implemented as a rule.

Otaku-sama · 09-15-2009, 05:47 PM

I believe that we should continue with strong-arm tactics until everyone, even the worst RPers, know and respect the tag system. It's not hard to put a tag. People should be informed better somehow. You should direct any offenders and newcomers to the new rule and the base rules. If they offend again, they are just too lazy for RPing.

Flandre Scarlet · 09-17-2009, 06:41 AM

@ Otaku-sama: Grand Idea old friend, Lets Educate them every time their RPs break rules.....

Off-topic: Is it me, or any RPs i get interested in get locked, and the ones that don't, I get bored of?

**J-Max** · 09-17-2009, 06:44 AM

Off-Topic: Probally due to the fact of the One-Liner posts. I would personally hate it if I gave a EPic Speech about exactly what my character is doing and suddenly I get something like "I will kill you" Said Pikachu.

I would personally give it a go if people were to RP right with me ^_^

Kuro no Keiyakushu · 09-17-2009, 07:03 AM

(09-17-2009 06:44 AM)J-Max Wrote: Off-Topic: Probally due to the fact of the One-Liner posts. I would personally hate it if I gave a EPic Speech about exactly what my character is doing and suddenly I get something like "I will kill you" Said Pikachu.

I would personally give it a go if people were to RP right with me ^_^

If that's the case, you would want to avoid most, if not all basics and stick to advance RPs.

Otaku-sama · 09-17-2009, 07:29 AM

We should give some type of incentive for people createing Advanced RPs. Not many people aside from Elites see the benefits of Advanced RPs and for the benefit of attracting all RPers they simply label all RPs basic.