Music Section Guidelines

[Opalmoon]

Greetings guys,

A newly imported moderator also means new section rules.
Here are compiled all the things you’re allowed to post and those you shouldn’t.

Overall there aren’t many rules in this section and all you need to keep in mind is laid out in a short, quick point-by-point format.

Anything written in spoilers is not a must-read, but contains detailed information about the rules, why they are in place, etc.; basically for those of you who have a specific question or want to do a more in-depth research.

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General Guidelines: What is allowed in the Music section?

• what the forum description says
• ”self-promotion”
• tabs and partitions
• playlists
• mixes (Drum’n’Bass etc.)
• AMV’s (author-made videos)
• discussions about concerts, festivals (elaborated on in Rule 3, point 4: bootlegs)

Detailed information (Click to View)

Point 1 includes videos or records of yourself playing something, lyrics, songs and any other form of musical self-promotion. Links to your (your band’s) MySpace site to give the members some insight on the music you’re playing are allowed.

If tabs or partitions are taken from another site, please add a link to that site.

I decided to let playlists slip since they usually engender a discussion of some sorts. Exceptionally, topic titles in the style of “What I’m listening to right now” can be used (elaborated on in Rule 5).

Rule 1: No spamming
‘Please keep replies and posts topical to the forum on which they are posted or they will be removed. Do a search if you want to ask a question or start a new thread to make sure that it hasn't been posted before.
Relating to topicality, you should not be changing the topic of an existing thread when you reply. This just serves to confuse people who have been following a thread, and often leads to spam and extra threads.’

Spam includes posts like “This is spam. Reported.” and anything among those lines. Not only do they fail to contribute to a discussion; they also start annoying other members and grab more attention on the rule-infracting topic. Instead of adding more spam, use the “Report” button and a moderator will come around to handle the issue.

In addition, posts which only consist of quoting another member or anything in the style of “Member X is right” are not allowed, as they don’t contribute to a discussion in any way.

• 1.1 Duplicate threads
  Are you new to the forum? Do you want to post a thread? Before you post a new topic, please run a quick search to see if the subject is not already being discussed somewhere else. There is no point in having a “Children of Bodom” thread somewhere and then “Alexi Laiho is a god” 2 steps below. In that case, it is better to bump the other thread, assuming it’s not deadly old, but if you find 10 similar threads and post a new one, it’s either going to be locked or merged.

Definition of spam (Click to View)

Spam stands for Stupid, Pointless and Annoying Message.

What constitutes or defines spam? Spam includes but is not limited to:
1.) Excessively short posts
2.) Pointless (off-topic) posts
3.) Return appearances
4.) Conversational posts
5.) Multiple posting
6.) Bumping old threads


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1.) Excessively short posts
This includes posts like "Yes", "Okay", "I don't know", "We know that", etc. If you don't have anything to say in a topic, don't do so. If someone asks a question, you don't need to post that you don't know the answer.

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2.) Pointless posts
Posts that have NOTHING to do with the topic. If the conversation sways off topic, that's one thing. If it's just starting a whole new topic with no connection to the last one, start a new thread, or keep it to yourself.
Also, make sure you read the guidelines (stickies) of each section before you post a thread.

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3.) Return appearances
Aka "Didn't I just see that one a few pages ago?" Please, people, do yourselves a favor and check if there isn't a thread having to do with what you're about to post. If you're asking a question, see if no one asked it before you and you're missing out on an answer.

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4.) Multiple posting
When you post please do not post again 3 seconds ago after that. Double ormultipleposting only makes a forum look cluttered, messy and unorganized.

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5.) Bumping old threads
Let old threads die and please don't comment in threads that have been dead for months.
If you think the topic needs to be discussed again, just make a new one.


Credit for this article goes to Kobaar/Derek_Whaley, edited and adapted to the YCM forum by Raven.

• 1.2: Note about stuck threads
  The “What are you listening to” topic is now situated in the Games section through a redirect link. The point behind this is that it’s easy to raise your post count in no time by inserting a random song in every second reply. Now the topic is still related to the Music section, but with no post count.

Rule 2: Links
’Unsolicited promotion of other web sites, or products, is spam, and will be removed on sight without warning. Please keep our forums free of unsolicited advertisement or product promotion. Posting referral/recruitment/trick links is strictly prohibited.’

However, links to video uploading sites like http://www.youtube.com/ or online radios like http://www.pandora.com/ are of course allowed.
If other, similar sites come to your mind, please post them here and I will add them to the list.



Rule 3: No inappropriate content
This includes linking to any sites that may violate the rules. In relation to this section, this includes:

• adult-oriented content
• download links and piracy
• trades
• bootlegs.

Details (Click to View)

• adult-oriented content
  Obviously, some of nowadays’ music contains a fair amount of swearing, provocating or shocking content. You don’t need to worry too much about that; I respect the liberty and expression of the artist and might just end up editing the post(s) a bit.
  However, as you are aware, any vast terrain also has its limits. If a thread contains pornography, it will be replaced by another video or removed on sight. Pornographic content is not allowed on any part of the site and will result in an instant warning or ban.
• downloads and piracy
  This issue has been discussed with the entire staff team. Download links, torrents and anything of that nature are not allowed since this is not a downoading site and will be removed on sight.
• trades
  The point is, the Card Trade forum of 2007 was shut down for a reason and trades of any type are generally forbidden on the site. In regard to this section, this includes sale/trade lists, eBay auctions, etc. This is not allowed on the site; if you’re selling or looking for something, you’re better served with Amazon or eBay.
• bootlegs
  Upon request of many official band sites, posting bootlegs from live shows is not allowed. We are fine with small clips of a specific moment from a concert (by small we mean 3 to max. 5 minutes), but entire shows should not be posted and will simply be removed.

Other than that, you are free to post anything music-related at your heart’s content.



Rule 4: No flaming / harassment
‘Harassment is defined as specifically targeting another player or group of players to harm or inconvenience them.’

‘Any speech or inference, direct or indirect, that constitutes a personal attack against another individual or group is prohibited. Do not insult other users for their ideas/opinions no matter how ridiculous they may be.’

Discussion is always welcome whereas crapping up threads with flame wars, personal insults and “Holier than thou” opinions is not. There is a difference between “you don’t know what you’re talking about” and “you are an idiot because you listen to ~insert something here~”. Flaming or harassing someone for having a different music taste is not allowed in any form.
This does of course not include debates, comparisons or discussions about why you think a band or genre is better than another, which can take place at any point.

• 4.1 “Holier than thou” Opinions
  The Music section is only a part of the Yugioh Card Maker Forum and thus bound to be frequented as well by younger or less informed users. Please understand that we are an entertainment section, not a whole site dedicated to music and highly professional musicians only. Don’t flame people who don’t know what semiquavers are or what the data rate in bits per second of European EBU SMPTE time code at a 25 fps frame rate is. Instead, try to explain it to the member in question or just ignore the issue altogether. I MIGHT open a topic for advanced musician discussions, depending on how the discussion scale proceeds.

• 4.2 Criticism
  ...is good if it’s done with a constructive insight. If we see that you attack someone or something just for the sake of it or because you simply can’t hold your temper in check you will have broken the rules.

Any flaming or vicious swearing will either run through my censoring method and make you look ridiculous or get deleted altogether.


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The staff team trusts that you will stick by these guidelines and continue to support the community and add to the discussion taking place. They work in addition to the general site rules situated here.

I tried to make this list as precise and comprehensible as possible, but if there is a point you feel unsure about or think I forgot something, you are encouraged to post your questions or comments here.

[~JG~]

Nice rules... as always

[Cyber Altair]

If I make a new discussion say 5 months after the previous one what will happen?

[Opalmoon]

I'm going to assume that you're talking about the "duplicate threads" point.
If so, well a topic is always considered dead after 5 months so of course it will be left where it is.

[Tabris]

So you're the new mod here? The Will welcomes thee, then.

[~TwIsTeD~]

I'm so breaking rule III. Thanks for the idea, ~Raven~!
xD

[Soul Legacy]

Nice simple rules to follow, i will do as im told , congrats on becoming mod

[Opalmoon]

(01-31-2009 05:54 AM)Tabris Wrote:  So you're the new mod here? The Will welcomes thee, then.

Yes, freshly moved from General to Music, upon my own request.
Thanks the Will.

(01-31-2009 01:09 PM)~TwIsTeD~ Wrote:  I'm so breaking rule III. Thanks for the idea, ~Raven~!
xD

Indeed.
And you can call me Raven, Opal or Opalmoon.

[Death Metal]

Teh Master Wrote:Examples: Threads entitled “Children of Bodom” and “Alexi Laiho is a god”.

What?!? They are so epic they deserve an entire sub section.

Anyways....good work on the guidelines.

[Opalmoon]

*makes CoB sub-forum*
I wish...

Anything I forgot to add? I don't want to put too many rules in this forum, but if anything important needs to be mentioned, just tell me and I will fix it.

[Sartorius]

No. We need a subsections for all these pop-like bands that only pre-teen fangirls like.

Ya know? Like Linkin Park, Bring me the Horizon etc >_>

[Opalmoon]

XD Yeah, I see what you mean.

Anything important I seriously forgot to add?

[Opalmoon]

Updated.
Adjusted/clarified some parts, expanded the lists and added a part about AMV's, music mixes and the likes.

Please tell me if I forgot anything.

[Opalmoon]

Updated. Changed the layout, added more details and an article about self-promotion, bootlegs and some other points.

[Jinzo]

Can i make a hating topic on the Jonas Brothers?

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Forget it I'll just do it

[Opalmoon]

You could but no.
We've had so many of them and none generated into a constructive discussion.
It was all about "Jonas Brotherz suck!!", "OMG yes they do", etc.
If you want to read it look through the older threads in this section.

[chisom]

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