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Okay, all of this sh*t seems like it's all being pulled out from under the rug at the last second. It's like their making sh*t up as they go along. Why can't Madara die already?! There's nothing special about him. He's just the classic OP'd bad guy with an ego. Hell, that stump that appeared after a substitution jutsu early on had more personality than this guy.


>---asks for Madara to survive Edo Tensei's cancellation
>---Madara survives Edo Tensei's cancellation
>---mad because Madara survived Edo Tensei's cancellation

Unpleasable fanbase... what a tragic sight.

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>---asks for Madara to survive Edo Tensei's cancellation
>---Madara survives Edo Tensei's cancellation
>---mad because Madara survived Edo Tensei's cancellation

Unpleasable fanbase... what a tragic sight.

Um, Kakashi never wanted Madara to survive. All his posts wanted him to die with the Edo Tensei. I'm fairly neutral though this is asspull-y, considerign the Edo Tensei was created post-Madara, or so it was implied.

@Kakashi: didn't you know? The Uchiha, namely Sasuke, have a long time rivalry with the log.


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>---asks for Madara to survive Edo Tensei's cancellation
>---Madara survives Edo Tensei's cancellation
>---mad because Madara survived Edo Tensei's cancellation

Unpleasable fanbase... what a tragic sight.

I never wanted Madara to survive the Edo Tensei. :T

@Kakashi: didn't you know? The Uchiha, namely Sasuke, have a long time rivalry with the log.

Sasuke deserves it. Actually, I'm kinda hoping for Sasuke to be all like ,"Hey, Naruto I hate your guts but Itachi wanted to protect the Village and Tobi is trying to destroy it so I'll help you beat him then I'll kill you but not actually end up beating you in the end."

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Tobi should've just memorized the Edo Tensei just like Madara since he has a Rinnegan as well. But now with Edo Tensei out of the way, we can get to more Tobi screen time and advance further into this war.

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Tobi should've just memorized the Edo Tensei just like Madara since he has a Rinnegan as well. But now with Edo Tensei out of the way, we can get to more Tobi screen time and advance further into this war.

Maybe that's it. What if he actually does remember the hand signs and what not. They only showed him saying "Damn Kabuto, you failed!" or something like that. Nothing after. Who knows... maybe he will redo the Edo Tensei.

Although Madara is boss, I think its time for him to go. His moves are pretty bland in my opinion. Nothing unexpected really happened. He used shadow clones to make 25 solid copies of himself. They all used the Susano'o. Its all pretty typical. I was expecting something extra out of the ordinary like resurrecting Hashirama and Tobirama after they're spirits have been sealed away. But no... fireballs and clones... meh... he's still boss though lol :3

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He did reveal a Perfect Susano'o, which we've never seen before. As well as the fact that the Rinnegan is the final form of the Sharigan. I wouldn't necessarily say that he was bland. Plus I'm sure there is more to come now that he is free.

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I couldn't tell if Madara had cast Edo Tensei on himself or if he was used Rinne Tensei, because he didn't have the undead cracks on his body like he did before.

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Man is Edo Tensei broken...
I'm just glad Madara isn't being finished in such a half-assed way.

See, at least him being taken after Edo Tensei ended would have worked. Wouldn't have been amazing, but at the time it was made to seem like the only way to stop him was by ending it. Now, imo, any thing that is done that does take him out will just be half-assed.

He did reveal a Perfect Susano'o, which we've never seen before. As well as the fact that the Rinnegan is the final form of the Sharigan. I wouldn't necessarily say that he was bland. Plus I'm sure there is more to come now that he is free.

Rinnegan being the final sharigan is such an ass-pull imo. They took something that was one of a kind and made it so a whole group could be able to get it. Yea, thats stupid.

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Rinnegan being the final sharigan is such an ass-pull imo. They took something that was one of a kind and made it so a whole group could be able to get it. Yea, thats stupid.

Like when you were a little kid and you worked so hard and finally caught Mewtwo, then went online only to see that thousands of other people had it already.

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Like when you were a little kid and you worked so hard and finally caught Mewtwo, then went online only to see that thousands of other people had it already.


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Rinnegan being the final sharigan is such an ass-pull imo. They took something that was one of a kind and made it so a whole group could be able to get it. Yea, thats stupid.


Although making the Rinnegan the final form of the Sharingan allows for new avenues, I completely agree with you. Its completely idiotic, the Rinnegan was supposed to be on a completely different level, an uncontainable level really. Now, its reputation has been tarnished IMO. Next thing you know, Sasuke will have the Rinnegan since he has the EMS already.

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Although making the Rinnegan the final form of the Sharingan allows for new avenues, I completely agree with you. Its completely idiotic, the Rinnegan was supposed to be on a completely different level, an uncontainable level really. Now, its reputation has been tarnished IMO. Next thing you know, Sasuke will have the Rinnegan since he has the EMS already.

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Yes, and Naruto will have the power of the ten tails.

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Sarcasm?

Any way you want it. I don't care whether he does or does not end up with it. :T

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See, at least him being taken after Edo Tensei ended would have worked. Wouldn't have been amazing, but at the time it was made to seem like the only way to stop him was by ending it. Now, imo, any thing that is done that does take him out will just be half-assed.


Anticlimacticism (or whatever the word) isn't the way to go during the final showdowns. That's why the Kabuto fight was meh, he went down too easily. I would much rather Kishi make more out of the Madara fight and give it an awesome finish instead of letting it end in a lame way with the 5 Kages getting their a*ses kicked. If this is done in a half-assed way, then to me, it's better this way than it would have been.
Although they could just do the same strategies as before, with Gaara trying to seal him in a sand thing with tags on it; the only problem is how to permanently dispose of him.


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Although I think it's stupid too, I don't think it tarnishes the Rinnegan. You clearly have to be a complete badass to achieve it, as it would appear only Madara and Tobi have gotten it. Not any Uchiha can get it.

That being said, Sasuke will 100% get the Rinnegan by the end of the series.

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Actually, I don't think Sasuke will.
I said this somewhere before, but my belief is that Sharingan can only evolve into Rinnegan by having Senju cells.
I don't remember everything said between Kabuto and Madara when the latter was summoned, but from what I recall, the context of their convo implied that the Rinnegan can only be present with both Uchiha and Senju cells. "The power of the Rikudo Sage" Kabuto spoke of was the Rinnegan, and the Sage was the originator of the Uchiha and Senju clans.
Madara said he awoke his Rinnegan shortly before his death.
Where was he at the time?
Fighting Hashirama SENJU.
I wouldn't put it past him to snagging some DNA and putting it to good use in the heat of battle.


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Now that makes gaining the Rinnegan more acceptable. You must have both Uchiha and Senju DNA. But what about Danzo? He should've been loaded up the butt with Rinnegan.

I still believe that the Rinnegan should only be inherited rather than achieved, though. Like how Pain inherited his eyes.

About Sasuke, he shouldn't get the Rinnegan, at least not anytime soon. He just got EMS and we need to see him use it a lot more. But who knows what Itachi passed on to Sasuke a few chapters ago.

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Now that makes gaining the Rinnegan more acceptable. You must have both Uchiha and Senju DNA. But what about Danzo? He should've been loaded up the butt with Rinnegan.
It's more accurate to say Rinnegan's an evolution of Mangekyo Sharingan. Danzo would never be able to use Mangekyo because he made himself incapable of feeling intense emotions.
I still believe that the Rinnegan should only be inherited rather than achieved, though. Like how Pain inherited his eyes.
A lot of people seem to feel the same.
About Sasuke, he shouldn't get the Rinnegan, at least not anytime soon. He just got EMS and we need to see him use it a lot more. But who knows what Itachi passed on to Sasuke a few chapters ago.
I'd rather not see Sasuke shooting up Senju in his system, but anything's possible :/



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I still believe that the Rinnegan should only be inherited rather than achieved, though. Like how Pain inherited his eyes.

But there's a good chance he didn't. while we can't believe Tobi in general, he is shown to have a labaratory and Hashirama as well as the Sharingan and he claimed that the Rinnegan was once him to Konan. He had no intent of her living another moment, so it could have very well been true.





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