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Exceed Info and "Rulings" from Shriek
OCG FAQ Q & A


This thread's purpose is to discuss the Exceed Summoning mechanic, what kind of impact you think it will have on the meta and how you personally feel about this new mechanic.

Currently Known Exceed Monsters
RANK 5:
Protector of the Founders, Tyrus
RANK 4:
No.39 Aspiring Emperor Hope
Vylon Disigma
Mainspring Armored Zenmeister
Evigishki Merrowgeist
*Inverz Exceed*
*Gem-Knight Pearl*
RANK 3:
No.17 Revise Dragon
Gurrensaurus
Aero Shark
Lavalval Ignis
Lavalball Ignis
RANK 2:
Gachigachi Gantetsu
Unknown RANK:
*Gusta Exceed* (I suspect it to be 3 for some reason.)


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Plague would be removed, since its hitting the graveyard after its effect was used.
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Plague would be removed, since its hitting the graveyard after its effect was used.

Yes, when it's removed from the field it get's removed from play. If it counts as being on the field and gets removed from play because of it, wouldn't Sangan get it's effect it it's used as an Exceed Cost? Since it's being sent from the field to the Graveyard?
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Yes it would, since neither effect is optional. It doesn't matter if its a cost to remove Plague from he field or to send Sangan to the graveyard since neither effect is an optional effect anyway.

Edit:Ignore what I said. No they wont. They aren't treated as being sent to tthe graveyard, so Plague shouldn't be removed.
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I feel like Exceeds are going to break the game even more than Synchros did. They're extremely splashable.

@Xaoi: Sangan's effect does NOT activate when it's sent as an Exceed Material Monster. That is an official ruling.

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Exceeds will change the game (you just lost it) forever. Too bad it will be a really long time until we get them in TCG.

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Sigh. That's what I get for not reading the spoiler.

When Ultimate Offering gets banned the first Exceed format or so, I'm gonna use Urknight turbo instead of Gadgets.
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Yeah, I know the Sangan ruling but that ruling makes me think of Plaguespreader and the like. Would they be removed from play the exact moment they are used as Exceed Material?

Also, I like this new mechanic a lot actually and to me it doesn't seem as though these guys will be all too broken, although Disigma is pushing it. So far they seem to be mid boss level monsters rather than true bosses (Disigma is, again, an exception). I really look forward so seeing more of them.

On another note, I'm voting for Lavalval Ignis for best Exceed Art so far even though I hate FIRE.
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Exceeds will change the game (you just lost it) forever. Too bad it will be a really long time until we get them in TCG.


doesn't the 2011 starter deck release in may 31st? it should have exceed monsters since it is branded as a Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal product?
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doesn't the 2011 starter deck release in may 31st? it should have exceed monsters since it is branded as a Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal product?

Yes, it has 3 Exceed monsters in it. Frozen-Solid Gantetsu, Gurrensaurus and Numbers 39 Aspiring King Hope. Ranks 2, 3 and 4 respectively. Exceeds aren't that far off. Konami even hinted at there being Exceed support in Extreme Victory.

I also like Exceeds because of the unpredictability they create along with Synchros. When I have a level 4 Spore and a Skull Meister on my field, the opponent has no clue what I'm about to do next. one of the best feelings in Yugioh is knowing you have options.
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SD 2011 will have Exceeds, and if there are none in Extreme Victory, there will be in the next pack because Konami announced during it's 2ND quarter product review (which was announced last week or so.) that Extreme Victory will be the official last pack of 5Ds oriented cards. The next pack will be Zexal oriented.

As for the main topic at hand: I think Exceeds could be a good thing if they have decent rulings and have a slightly better mechanic than synchros.

I kind of like the idea, but as for the whole Rank thing.... That puts me off alittle because of the fact that when the "Dark Synchros" were going to be printed they had to print them as regular synchros and wouldn't nerf their summoning in some way to allow for it (or they could have just gave us the nice card frame and detailing but have it be treated as a normal synchro) and it was justified by the fact of "Level one is the lowest Level of monster in the YGO game period and that would mean we would have to actually work to make a decent summoning mechanic or take the time to explain how to decently summon them following the original mechanic."

Now they have ranks. Why the heck didn't they just do that in the first place with the Dark Synchros?!?!

Come on Konami!!! Stop being lazy!!!!
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Yes, it has 3 Exceed monsters in it. Frozen-Solid Gantetsu, Gurrensaurus and Numbers 39 Aspiring King Hope. Ranks 2, 3 and 4 respectively. Exceeds aren't that far off. Konami even hinted at there being Exceed support in Extreme Victory.

I also like Exceeds because of the unpredictability they create along with Synchros. When I have a level 4 Spore and a Skull Meister on my field, the opponent has no clue what I'm about to do next. one of the best feelings in Yugioh is knowing you have options.


I feel like their "Exceed support" will be summoning monsters of the same level from hand or deck. If they actually specifically supported Exceeds, they'd be rather useless for three months.

I just want rulings on flipping facedown and tokens. pon hearing those, it will make me rethink some tech cards carefully.

Since many Tuners are actually runnable as monsters (Mist Valley Soldier), you can create a lot of options by getting rid of your unnecessary Synchros and replacing them with relevant Exceeds.
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One question that just came up for me would be, will we still get Synchros after Zexal comes out??? It would be nice if they continued it and didn't let it die out like Rituals have begun to.
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One question that just came up for me would be, will we still get Synchros after Zexal comes out??? It would be nice if they continued it and didn't let it die out like Rituals have begun to.


We'll still probably get some from the 5D's manga.
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I'm sure that we will see bunches of Synchros coming out in th future. I believe that now that 5D's has ended Konami can now make Synchros that are free from the any character or plotline.

I seriously think Konami needs to give a big boost to all of their colored cards. Rituals, Fusions, Synchros and Exceed. The Duel Terminal cards are helping but we need to see some non HERO fusions be relavent to the Meta and some Rituals that aren't Demise.
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@Kaiser: There's a LOT of stuff that deserves major support. Types, Attributes, Archetypes, AND Monster Types.

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I agree with you guys.

I liked the duel terminal idea, but if you live in an area where one isn't available its kind of crappy. The closest Duel Terminal to me is like an hour and a half north of me and its like one of two of them in my state. the other is 4 hours south of me at the very bottom of the state...

I hope that konami will just give new and better support for the existing cards and stop only supporting the more popular ones... But thatll probably not happen...

As for Exceeds, I hope they have decent support and will allow for a balance between them, fusions and Synchros.
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...They only support popular ones? Six Sams were pretty dead before they gave them a boost, Gravekeepers got new cards, and they've just released a flogging Structure Deck for Sanctuary in the Sky. If you mean the new concepts like Synchro/Exceed being supported over Fusions, then remember that the relatively new Rituals are some of the most playable yet, and that the new generic Heros and Synchro-Fusions are among the more playable of Fusions. I really don't see your argument.
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Archetypes typically do not support the whole, they support a single line of cards. Gishki, Vylons, and E-Heroes are all nice for the types of things they support, but there exists little within their ranks that supports anything but their own Archetype in a meaningful way.

Generic rituals have Demise, Herald, and Relinquished pretty much. That's really about it. Fusion have FGD, CED, Chimeratech, Cyber Twin, and a few others. And the main reason these are usable is because they have cards that support their specific Type, or because they can OTK. But even if you say the list is enough, it still pales in comparison to the powerful support other cards have been getting.




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