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This contains some foul language, so keep that in mind.

Prologue


Chapter 1: Initial Account


Chapter 2: A Place of Refuge


Chapter 3: Gift Horse


Chapter 4: Grave Men


Chapter 5: Coup de Grace

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Chapters need to be at least 2 pages in length.

I haven't read it yet, but I intend to at some point... maybe. I prefer original stories over fan-ones for some reason.

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Indeed. Two pages is the minimum content for a chapter.

Get in touch with Rinne or I if you plan on expanding it.

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Yeah, I was writing it at size 11 in MS Word with a large font. Cambria I think. Oh well, screw it, I might come back to it at some point.

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I've updated the damn thing so it conforms to the regulations. I'm working on the second chapter and I have much more time on my hands.

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Come on. Reviews? Even passing comments? I'm even going for the bribery option.

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Prologue:

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Purple_prose

Nah but seriously, I couldn't make heads or tails of it. From as near as I can tell, the protagonist tells us there's something called manifestations or something or muto-phenomena or flavours or some other random crap. It doesn't help add to the story and only further serves to confuse

in my opinion

Chapter 1:

So we begin with a guy named Florent, born somewhere to some people and he's was on vacation 3 years ago. Three years ago, a bunch of random people all over the place got sick and collapsed onto the ground, writhing in... I assume pain? And then Florent was paralyzed with fear, not because he thought the whatever-the-hell-just-happened would effect him, but because he was afraid that the people who he had seen collapsed would get up, come to his house and "attack the house in the night" and afraid that he "would be torn apart".

I assume it's something similar to a zombie onslaught except without like... anything showing they were zombies. As far as I can tell they all just passed out and rather then administer first aid he just ran home. He mentions a few other people ("I ran to our rented home", our typically meaning it belongs to more then one person) and yet we don't really hear much about these other people who live in the rented home. Seems odd to imply they'd be there and yet... not have them there.

So anyway, Florent grabs some supplies and rushed towards a wide open park instead of a fortified house. IDK, maybe he was looking for people? He said "seeking refuge", but he had a refuge in his rented house. Whatever.

So anyway, he leaves the relative safety of his home and rather then check the news, call on friends, or turn on the radio he bolts to the park, finds a nice "hole between a bush and a wooden fense, just about large enough for a person to fit in" and goes to sleep inside of it? Just strikes me as illogical at best and downright suicidal at the worst.

So to the surprise of no one, he wakes up in the middle of the night and hears a zombie or something nearby. He panicks, as men often do when confronted with zombies, but he eventually manages to shoot it in the eye.

Overall, I think the problem is the story doesn't really present anything new or present old things in a new and interesting way. The protagonist is just some guy, devoid of personality. Or he seems rather stuffy and kind of bookish, but that's most likely just your own personality. He doesn't seem to be all that interesting, is what I'm trying to say. And if Florent's the protagonist then it seems we're in for a bit of a dull journey... with zombies.

I mean, not for nothing but the idea of "meek quiet librarian fights zombies" doesn't strike me as all that engaging.

in my opinion

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Yeah, prose is show-offy. Very show-offy. But then again I have only written a couple of chapters. Florent's bad decisions are actually going to be discussed in the next chapter (when we meet some other characters).

EDIT: I've posted the next chapter.

Edited by Botvinnik, 16 July 2012 - 06:32 AM.

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Comments? Pretty please?

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I like the concept of Zombie Apocalypses
/yesyoudo

OT: When writing stories, an important aspect is to understand what makes that genre of story so fascinating, and take it into your piece of work (and if you don’t think that genre of story is fascinating, don’t write it). Well, it’s one of those “duh” advices, but frankly a majority of non-published works don’t follow it.

Now, as far as I know, ZAs should always maintain an atmosphere of constant threat and tension. Its main theme revolves around the fear of the protagonist, and thus, the reader/player as well. In video games and such, this can be done rather easily by having the player shooting zombies that spray blood CG and moan and groan all the time. These video games often cut out all scenes except fighting, so the player can constantly be submerged in the violence and cruelty of the video game world. It can be noted that gore and fear are much easier to explain with moving pictures and sounds than with simple words, and thus it requires much thinking, as well as vivid (and quite possibly, overly done) explanations to create a ZA literature piece enjoyable. Looking at it another way, character feelings in literature can be described AMAZING if done right, so it’s all up to the writer to determine how well he/she can create a world of terror and blood.

I say you did a brilliant job with Chapter 1 on this. I could imagine myself as the main character, readying my weapons for the nearing threat. I especially loved the part about the hide-and-seek and stuff. Where the day-to-day example of hide-and-seek and the definitely-not-day-to-day example of shooting zombies is combined, it resulted in a very amusing and also easily comprehensible description that well served its purpose. But, coulda worked better with smell. The stench of rotting flesh, blood, etc. It could also give the main character assurance that it was a Zombie, and not a normal man trying to meet him.

You could work on Chapter 2 a lot more, though. Maybe you were going for a “time of rest for the main character” by not having him encounter any zombies, but I personally feel the zombies need to be constantly everywhere on the path. After all, the main concept is fear, which Chapter 2 doesn’t emit at all. And given it seems like you’re going to have the characters jump into the happy dreamy refuge of flowers and smiley-faces in Chapter 3, Chapter 2 needs DOUBLE the zombies. Okay, maybe not double, but it still needs at least some of them chasing after the main-character group with rotting bodies and the stench of death. Which would definitely make the main characters hurry even more towards the refuge and build up the “THERE’S NO ESCAPE” tension required in ZA stories.

Hope I helped.


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I like the concept of Zombie Apocalypses
/yesyoudo

OT: When writing stories, an important aspect is to understand what makes that genre of story so fascinating, and take it into your piece of work (and if you don’t think that genre of story is fascinating, don’t write it). Well, it’s one of those “duh” advices, but frankly a majority of non-published works don’t follow it.

Now, as far as I know, ZAs should always maintain an atmosphere of constant threat and tension. Its main theme revolves around the fear of the protagonist, and thus, the reader/player as well. In video games and such, this can be done rather easily by having the player shooting zombies that spray blood CG and moan and groan all the time. These video games often cut out all scenes except fighting, so the player can constantly be submerged in the violence and cruelty of the video game world. It can be noted that gore and fear are much easier to explain with moving pictures and sounds than with simple words, and thus it requires much thinking, as well as vivid (and quite possibly, overly done) explanations to create a ZA literature piece enjoyable. Looking at it another way, character feelings in literature can be described AMAZING if done right, so it’s all up to the writer to determine how well he/she can create a world of terror and blood.

I say you did a brilliant job with Chapter 1 on this. I could imagine myself as the main character, readying my weapons for the nearing threat. I especially loved the part about the hide-and-seek and stuff. Where the day-to-day example of hide-and-seek and the definitely-not-day-to-day example of shooting zombies is combined, it resulted in a very amusing and also easily comprehensible description that well served its purpose. But, coulda worked better with smell. The stench of rotting flesh, blood, etc. It could also give the main character assurance that it was a Zombie, and not a normal man trying to meet him.

You could work on Chapter 2 a lot more, though. Maybe you were going for a “time of rest for the main character” by not having him encounter any zombies, but I personally feel the zombies need to be constantly everywhere on the path. After all, the main concept is fear, which Chapter 2 doesn’t emit at all. And given it seems like you’re going to have the characters jump into the happy dreamy refuge of flowers and smiley-faces in Chapter 3, Chapter 2 needs DOUBLE the zombies. Okay, maybe not double, but it still needs at least some of them chasing after the main-character group with rotting bodies and the stench of death. Which would definitely make the main characters hurry even more towards the refuge and build up the “THERE’S NO ESCAPE” tension required in ZA stories.

Hope I helped.


Come on, you know your zombie apocalypse tropes. Chapter 3 is in the "safe" house. In horror, whenever something is supposed to be safe, it isn't, obviously. I promise you some nice exposition and rollicking action.

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Well, technically, but I meant about Chapter 2. Maybe a bit more? If you're going for the Silence Before the Storm, that's fine, but.

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Though Slovakia is pretty rural, particularly in out of town Bratislava. Once they cross the border, things will get way more up-tempo.

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Updated with a new, very long chapter.

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I really like this. Not only did you innovate your plot and increase it's length while adding the necessary detail, you kept core components of your work that had been the best parts of your story.

Also... Bara X Florent
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I really like this. Not only did you innovate your plot and increase it's length while adding the necessary detail, you kept core components of your work that had been the best parts of your story.

Also... Bara X Florent
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Hmm...you'd be surprised. It seems like the obvious path, and I am certainly considering it, but I think perhaps it's just too obvious. And you forgot the other character, he might play a part (no, not a threes-up, you childish people. I can see a "that's what she said" from a mile off. I mean in the arc).

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Hmm...you'd be surprised. It seems like the obvious path, and I am certainly considering it, but I think perhaps it's just too obvious. And you forgot the other character, he might play a part (no, not a threes-up, you childish people. I can see a "that's what she said" from a mile off. I mean in the arc).

That's what she sa-
Dammit...

And Baibars is meh with me. I like his leadership skills but he can get annoying sometimes. He also seems extra fearful than the rest.

Also I think you forgot to finish the spoiler in Chapter 4.

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Thanks for that, I dealt with it. Walls of text from MS Word don't import terribly well. Twists coming up soon, haha.

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When should Chapter 5 be up?

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After tonight, UK time. I'm still working on it.

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