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Hornetless Inzektors

Started by EmpoleMew, Jul 04 2012 07:46 PM

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#1
EmpoleMew

Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:46 PM

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Is there a right way to run Inzektors without Hornet? If there is, this probably isn't it.

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Ke-Nan

Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:56 PM

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inb4Chris

-1 Ladybug
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Hopper iz always bettar.

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EmpoleMew

Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

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You know, you'd think I'd remember that with how much he says it. Done.

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The Monster of Surrealton!

Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

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Why Weevil?

World of Gaea: My CCG

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My stuff on YCM

The greatest promo for anything ever

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*double facepalm* because a single one doesn't cut it for this topic

If you don't want to use a Meta Deck or whatever fine. I get it. They're boring, they're cheap as in don't require any real skill because they're scripted but you cannot deny the fact that they win games. Just because you don't want to use a meta Deck, it doesn't mean you should use a terrible Deck. Just because a Deck isn't meta, it doesn't necessarily mean it is terrible. The Deck in this topic however is in fact terrible. You would be best off taking the good advice and criticism given or just leave if you aren't willing to accept it because all you're doing is just being stubborn and wasting everyone's time.

I like how Placido, Byakk, or Manjy state their opinions and the rest of YCM becomes total tools to their opinions. Seriously though, deck doesn't look too good... but I will agree that MSD isn't needed. Probably the reason why this doesn't seem right is because you haven't been making decks actively for a while... I can see that because you're using Bribe.

Actually I'm going to nitpick this a little bit... I see that the idea is to go for Arcanite or something yes? That's fine I suppose, though Solidarity doesn't seem to work right here... unless you are able to compensate with negation traps, or are just confident in the consistency of the build (which seems to be lacking of). Also, if the Idea is synchro summoning, then you will only need 3 Spy 3 Guard 3 Descendant and 2-3 Commandant, as far as GKs.

It seems that the YCM community is becoming more lazy and ignorant... It does no good to simply suggest changes, and then become aggressive about it. It's like bullying really. I think it's about time people start giving reason, and if need be able to define key points about the deck, like win condition, consistency, etc. It seems so many times people will rant on about a deck simply because the win condition most are familiar to are not present. If the win condition is more easily explained, it might help people with making better suggestions. Also, it helps confirm the direction of the deck, as opposed to changing the whole damn mess.

Also, the whole IRL vs. Online thing has been getting on my nerves, there should be a rule as to the indication of the purpose of the list.

You really should identify what you are trying to go for, and that you don't wish to use the typical GK build. If you do that, most of the arguements pointed against you will become null. also, are there anymore spellcaster Ice Barrier tuners? if so Medallion might help out a bit. take out the Magical Dimensions for them.

y aren't I entered f***ing b****? I poured my heart and soul into that deck. I f***ing spent weeks working on it. That was my best f***ing deck and I just GAVE it to you. For free. And this is how you repay me for my generosity? Why would you do this. You are a horribly person. I wish I could summon the egyptian god cards on you. I wish I could summon obelisk the tormentor and have him torment you. I wish I could activate super polymerization in real life and fuse jesus and ra and the devil and hitler and the strongest man in the world with god and blue eyes white dragon kuriboh and make him punch you so hard your brain falls out. Then I wish monster reborn was real so I could monster reborn you again and have him punch you again on my next battle phaser. Then I would rape your mother and eat her organs and f*** i HATE YOU so much. i dont even f***ing care anymore I QUIT this website. I am literally crying right now you f***er I'm CRYING and I'm a GROWN f***ing MAN. GOD I WANT TO DIE RIGHT NOW!!

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Ke-Nan

Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

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Why Weevil?

You mean Cricket?

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The Monster of Surrealton!

Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

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You mean Cricket?

Whatever that thing next to Mantis is.

World of Gaea: My CCG

WoG Oni Tribe

My archetypes in RC

What?

My Youtube

Previous names

My stuff on YCM

The greatest promo for anything ever

Quotes

*double facepalm* because a single one doesn't cut it for this topic

If you don't want to use a Meta Deck or whatever fine. I get it. They're boring, they're cheap as in don't require any real skill because they're scripted but you cannot deny the fact that they win games. Just because you don't want to use a meta Deck, it doesn't mean you should use a terrible Deck. Just because a Deck isn't meta, it doesn't necessarily mean it is terrible. The Deck in this topic however is in fact terrible. You would be best off taking the good advice and criticism given or just leave if you aren't willing to accept it because all you're doing is just being stubborn and wasting everyone's time.

I like how Placido, Byakk, or Manjy state their opinions and the rest of YCM becomes total tools to their opinions. Seriously though, deck doesn't look too good... but I will agree that MSD isn't needed. Probably the reason why this doesn't seem right is because you haven't been making decks actively for a while... I can see that because you're using Bribe.

Actually I'm going to nitpick this a little bit... I see that the idea is to go for Arcanite or something yes? That's fine I suppose, though Solidarity doesn't seem to work right here... unless you are able to compensate with negation traps, or are just confident in the consistency of the build (which seems to be lacking of). Also, if the Idea is synchro summoning, then you will only need 3 Spy 3 Guard 3 Descendant and 2-3 Commandant, as far as GKs.

It seems that the YCM community is becoming more lazy and ignorant... It does no good to simply suggest changes, and then become aggressive about it. It's like bullying really. I think it's about time people start giving reason, and if need be able to define key points about the deck, like win condition, consistency, etc. It seems so many times people will rant on about a deck simply because the win condition most are familiar to are not present. If the win condition is more easily explained, it might help people with making better suggestions. Also, it helps confirm the direction of the deck, as opposed to changing the whole damn mess.

Also, the whole IRL vs. Online thing has been getting on my nerves, there should be a rule as to the indication of the purpose of the list.

You really should identify what you are trying to go for, and that you don't wish to use the typical GK build. If you do that, most of the arguements pointed against you will become null. also, are there anymore spellcaster Ice Barrier tuners? if so Medallion might help out a bit. take out the Magical Dimensions for them.

y aren't I entered f***ing b****? I poured my heart and soul into that deck. I f***ing spent weeks working on it. That was my best f***ing deck and I just GAVE it to you. For free. And this is how you repay me for my generosity? Why would you do this. You are a horribly person. I wish I could summon the egyptian god cards on you. I wish I could summon obelisk the tormentor and have him torment you. I wish I could activate super polymerization in real life and fuse jesus and ra and the devil and hitler and the strongest man in the world with god and blue eyes white dragon kuriboh and make him punch you so hard your brain falls out. Then I wish monster reborn was real so I could monster reborn you again and have him punch you again on my next battle phaser. Then I would rape your mother and eat her organs and f*** i HATE YOU so much. i dont even f***ing care anymore I QUIT this website. I am literally crying right now you f***er I'm CRYING and I'm a GROWN f***ing MAN. GOD I WANT TO DIE RIGHT NOW!!

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#7
Ke-Nan

Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:10 PM

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Thats Cricket. Crickets good.

Mantis and Cricket are good, Weevil is bad.

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#8
EmpoleMew

Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:12 PM

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Just a tech. It has its uses, but not entirely necessary.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:27 AM

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Hopper is used because it can be used with Sword to get over Laggia and Dolka. Without sword, there's no point in running it. (plus it's a Level 4 Inzektor with a usable effect)

Sword is used because it can both get Hopper over stronger monsters AND can be used with Inzektor Hornet to get the loop off. Without both those, I don't think there's a need to run Sword.

In other words, I don't think Hopper and Sword would be run in Hornet-less Inzektors. I just don't see it being worthwhile. Without hornet, Ladybug just becomes better in my mind.

Just my opinion though, it may test differently.

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#10
Zumar

Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:54 AM

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Am I allowed to ask why Hornetless Inzektors?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

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Am I allowed to ask why Hornetless Inzektors?

Not if you have a brain to think it through.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:30 AM

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There is no way to run Hornet-less. The deck's pure garbage without it.

In theory, all you could really do is play a floater-esque style deck, utilising Giga-Mantis and Sword, which would honestly require 3 Giga-Mantis and cards that can combo with it... Which there are virtually none since it's not like you want to MST your own cards.

One could assume, however, something like:

3 Hopper
3 Centi
3 Fly
2/3 Giga-Mantis (It becomes a card you want to draw, basically a 2400 atk floater beat deck)
3 Veiler
3 TGU
1 Sangan
1 BLS
0/1 Ladybug (1 seems fair for Fly combos, but only because you have no Hornets)

2/3 Sword
Regular stuff.

Safe Zone would be likely lackluster, you're not exactly saving a stick of dynamite or anything.

idk I'm just spewing random ideas for a deck that I realise has potential but is infinitely worse without its power card.

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EmpoleMew

Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:59 PM

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Hmm...so:

-Cricket
+Mantis
-2 Safe Zone
+1 Sword
+1? Axe

Leaving Axe@2 gets it down to 40, though 41 really isn't a problem.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:04 PM

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Axe is abysmal.

I said 3 Hoppers for a reason.

Cut to 1 Ladybug.

The Solemn Trio exist.

Avarice is horrible in Inzektors.

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#15
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:46 PM

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I have 3 Hopper and 1 Ladybug already, just haven't updated the pic yet. I personally like Avarice, but I'll see how it tests without it.

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