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[Master White]

My Smexy SIngle, proly way to overpowered, but who knows, you do lose 1000 Life points and it requires 3 Synhro Tuners + Black Rose Dragon itself, which I still say is worth bringing out.....

Lore

1 Black Rose Dragon + 3 Synchro Tuner monsters.
When this card is Synchro Summoned: Destroy all cards on the your opponents field. Each of these effects can be activated once per turn: ● Reveal the top 5 cards of your Deck. Shuffle them back in, and this card's maximum number of attacks this turn is equal to the number of Plant-type monsters revealed. ● Negate the activation of an effect that would remove a card(s) by any way that is on the field, and banish that card. ● When your opponent's monster declares an attack you can select it, then remove this card from play and negate the attack. During the End Phase, Special Summon this card that was removed from play by this effect. ● Detach 1 Xyz Material from an Xyz monster your opponent controls and gain 200 Life Points for eaxh Xyz Material monster attached to an Xyz. When this card is destroyed, banish it and inflict 1000 damage to your Life Points.

Umm, yea, sorry for long effect, I don't normally like long effects, but in this case, its needed, and Black Rose Dragon is definitlly needed back....

But of course, this card would proly be banned after release realizing their mistake.....if it was ever made into an card....

I take no credit for image at all, original owner toakes full credit, just found it on google, thats all...

[BailasGale]

My Smexy SIngle, proly way to overpowered, but who knows, you do lose 1000 Life points and it requires 3 Synhro Tuners + Black Rose Dragon itself, which I still say is worth bringing out.....

Lore

1 Black Rose Dragon + 3 Synchro Tuner monsters.
When this card is Synchro Summoned: Destroy all cards on the your opponents field. Each of these effects can be activated once per turn: ● Reveal the top 5 cards of your Deck. Shuffle them back in, and this card's maximum number of attacks this turn is equal to the number of Plant-type monsters revealed. ● Negate the activation of an effect that would remove a card(s) by any way that is on the field, and banish that card. ● When your opponent's monster declares an attack you can select it, then remove this card from play and negate the attack. During the End Phase, Special Summon this card that was removed from play by this effect. ● Detach 1 Xyz Material from an Xyz monster your opponent controls and gain 200 Life Points for eaxh Xyz Material monster attached to an Xyz. When this card is destroyed, banish it and inflict 1000 damage to your Life Points.

Umm, yea, sorry for long effect, I don't normally like long effects, but in this case, its needed, and Black Rose Dragon is definitlly needed back....

But of course, this card would proly be banned after release realizing their mistake.....if it was ever made into an card....

I take no credit for image at all, original owner toakes full credit, just found it on google, thats all...

Okay lets see the number of Synchro tuners that exist:

Formula Synchron: its LIMITED!!! so yeah there went that.
T.G. Wonder Magician: 5+7= 12 oh wait I need 3 sychro tuners so no
Life Stream Dragon: 8+7=15 well that sucks for me doesn't it.

So its not possible unless I do some major level adjusting which sounds like incalculable amount of resources.

That being said in the FICTIONAL world where it hits the field (I swear old format card players are blatantly telling) it is overpowered. You just figured lets give it every good effect in the game and hopefully all of these new school swarm cards can't touch it.

Finally when was Black Rose not good? For decks that still synchro you always keep a black rose in extra deck.

[Master White]

1st: I'm not old world player.....lets rephrase this, I know all these Xyz's are horrible monsters which should not been ever been made, Zexal is horrible, if you love it your in denial, Synchro's were the only legit semi-sorta things out there.
2nd: I was testing to see if you'd consider it op'd or up'd. you pass....Plus I didn't want to stay as Black Rose Dragon only it as all the other signers get upgrades but aki and luna don't? Little unfair IMO.
3rd: You need one level 3 Synchro Tuner + 1 Level 2 Synchro Tuner. Also I haven't made the 2nd card for it.
4th: I don't care if its wiped out in one turn, all I care is if its op'd or not as I want it op'd for cruel and various Reasons....
5th: Don't just assume, as that makes an ass out of u and me.....6
6th: Don't start saying old gamer, lets manr*pe this b*tch and teach him to make game cards that are op'd and easy so it'll be fair and yada, sorry, I don't fall for your stubborness game of tricks and this is, hence the name, suppose to be realistic card section, not Realistic Konami made op'd all the time cards....I'm utilising this card to teach a lesoon to you all....
7th: Actually be nice to people, it is an childrens card game after all, what gives you the right to be mean and say old gamer, and oh, it must be another old timer, and etc......As those things are words of hatred and harsh, and you should after all be nice...

[~Renegade~]

As Beginning said it is impossible to get this thing out, and even if it was it would still be OP'ed. The effect vaguely relates to that of Black Rose Dragon, but with all this added junk the resemblance is very minor. Back onto the subject of summoning this thing out, there are very few times that I summon Black Rose Dragon to actually keep it on the field. To my knowledge, Black Rose Dragon is primarily used as a nuke.

1st: I'm not old world player.....lets rephrase this, I know all these Xyz's are horrible monsters which should not been ever been made, Zexal is horrible, if you love it your in denial, Synchro's were the only legit semi-sorta things out there.
In my opinion, even Synchros stretched the game. But this is beside the point.
2nd: I was testing to see if you'd consider it op'd or up'd. you pass....Plus I didn't want to stay as Black Rose Dragon only it as all the other signers get upgrades but aki and luna don't? Little unfair IMO.
Then make a more realistic upgrade. At least the other signer 'upgrades' are playable...
3rd: You need one level 3 Synchro Tuner + 1 Level 2 Synchro Tuner. Also I haven't made the 2nd card for it.
THERE ARE NO LEVEL 3 SYNCHRO TUNERS! There is only 1 Level 2 Synchro Tuner, and it is Limited! As for your reasoning, 3+3=5. 5+7=12. But wait, don't you still need another material? Also, if you planned on making a 2nd card for this you should have waited to post so that it made more sense.
4th: I don't care if its wiped out in one turn, all I care is if its op'd or not as I want it op'd for cruel and various Reasons...
Well you succeeded in making it OP'ed. Still don't understand why you wanted to though...please share your 'various reasons'
5th: Don't just assume, as that makes an ass out of u and me.....6
What was he assuming? You really did give it a majority of the good effects in the game.
6th: Don't start saying old gamer, lets manr*pe this b*tch and teach him to make game cards that are op'd and easy so it'll be fair and yada, sorry, I don't fall for your stubborness game of tricks and this is, hence the name, suppose to be realistic card section, not Realistic Konami made op'd all the time cards....I'm utilising this card to teach a lesoon to you all....
What lesson would that be? Realistic section is a section to create cards that have a fair chance of being integrated into the game or have fulfill some type of hole needed in the game.
7th: Actually be nice to people, it is an childrens card game after all, what gives you the right to be mean and say old gamer, and oh, it must be another old timer, and etc......As those things are words of hatred and harsh, and you should after all be nice...
I will admit his words were a bit harsh, but not 'of hatred'

I can already tell you are going to take this post offensively. But, you put it up her to get some opinions on it....

Also, your topic name says Black Nebula Rose Dragon while the name of the card is Red Nebula Rose Dragon. The pic doesn't depict a dragon either, that is a girl dressed up in an outfit that resembles the appearance of Black Rose Dragon, therefore the type should be more along the lines of Spellcaster or Warrior, if it were directly correlated with the pic. I can get over this, just pointing it out. I am also not a fan of the template you used, but whatever.

So if you want to know what you should work on:
1. Make it possible to be summoned. Remove the need for 3 Synchro Tuner monsters. I would honestly lower it down to 1 and then make another Synchro Tuner to go with it. This is the biggest thing I am having trouble getting over and I think once you fix this I will be able to take the card a little more seriously.
2. Remove some of the unneeded effects. What are the chances that your opponent will be using a deck with Plant monsters in it? I will admit I am not too caught up in the metagame right now, but I do not know of any plant-type decks that are still uberly popular. The effect that allows this card to gain extra attacks would rarely ever amount to anything.
3.If you want it to be a dragon(which it should be if it is going to be an 'upgrade' of BRD) then maybe find a different pic. This one does not depict a dragon.
4. Can I please know this card's attribute? I am guessing FIRE, but still kinda need to know.

I am sorry if this seems harsh, but the reality is this card needs a lot of work. I recommend scratching this idea and go back to the drawing boards.

[BailasGale]

1st: I'm not old world player.....lets rephrase this, I know all these Xyz's are horrible monsters which should not been ever been made, Zexal is horrible, if you love it your in denial, Synchro's were the only legit semi-sorta things out there.
2nd: I was testing to see if you'd consider it op'd or up'd. you pass....Plus I didn't want to stay as Black Rose Dragon only it as all the other signers get upgrades but aki and luna don't? Little unfair IMO.
3rd: You need one level 3 Synchro Tuner + 1 Level 2 Synchro Tuner. Also I haven't made the 2nd card for it.
4th: I don't care if its wiped out in one turn, all I care is if its op'd or not as I want it op'd for cruel and various Reasons....
5th: Don't just assume, as that makes an ass out of u and me.....6
6th: Don't start saying old gamer, lets manr*pe this b*tch and teach him to make game cards that are op'd and easy so it'll be fair and yada, sorry, I don't fall for your stubborness game of tricks and this is, hence the name, suppose to be realistic card section, not Realistic Konami made op'd all the time cards....I'm utilising this card to teach a lesoon to you all....
7th: Actually be nice to people, it is an childrens card game after all, what gives you the right to be mean and say old gamer, and oh, it must be another old timer, and etc......As those things are words of hatred and harsh, and you should after all be nice...

1st: Your opinion about xyz is not fact, so lets not pass it off as one
2nd: Life Stream is technically the true signer dragon therefore it too doesn't have an upgrade oh and neither does Black Winged Dragon. So that means 2 signers have an upgrade. Does that make it more fair?
3rd: 3 Synchro Tuners means 3 synchro tuners! If you meant to say you need a level 3 and a level 2 tuner then you should write that: "1 Level 3 tuner monster + 1 level 2 tuner monster + 1 Black Rose Dragon". Which would by the way, breaks it even further because now its playable.
4th: I have no idea what the wipe out part is referring to but okay. Of course your card is Op'd when you drop it, it nukes only your opponents field then you can do other things...
5th: What did I assume...Oh the old world player statement...yeah your reply betrays your accusation and maintains my statement. Ridiculous summoning conditions, Blatantly obscene effects, saying black rose is at one, yeah just because you know that Xyz exist doesn't make you up on the game. Old world in my eyes at least.
6th: What pedestal-soapbox-high horse rant is this? You made a deliberately bad card to do what? Teach us a lesson. How does this teach anyone a lesson? This isn't realistic and this is a realistic thread, those who comment should help you make a card more realistic. That is what goes on here. You are not required to post cards, comment, or listened to said comments so if you are so butthurt by my statement that explained why your card isn't playable feel free to post on down to Any Other Card there you should have fun and this can receive some praise.
7th: Oh I'm cyber bullying now. I called you old format....Gasp call the police! Seriously that's your stance I'm being mean. I commented on this! I took the time to explain why (as its written) its isn't playable. In all honesty I thought I was being kind of nice leaving out the essay length details of why I think this card was wrong at its inception. But besides that I will apologize...Sorry...because you were offended by 9 words of my comment.

EDIT: Oh I'm sorry (again I guess) you want a level three synchro tuner to go with this...Is that why you made this thread say "single" ?

[Master White]

@Renagade:

Now, that is what I really wanted from the other guy, thanks for pointing out the attribute thing, I missed the attribute 2, figures......Meh, I'm losing it today....Its Dark of course.....and no, its not offensive in any sort of way, its actually a good post, legitamte, and exactly what I wanted. The only thing I don't like you say is about the pic, who the bleep cares, Sorryif you take offense, but its hard to find an black rose dragon upgrade form, and hey, astral and that kid form the show merged, why not the human and Black rose merge, so it'd be technically a dragon human, which is no special type. To get political, it could be a plant monster, but that wouldn't fit. Warrior wouldn't fit, as its part dragon, and what kind of warrior would have roses growing off them. Its not a suit, but the actual monster merged together......Besides, I hate fake-types, and anyone trying to find an legit good-super Awesome Black Rose Draagon in upgraded form thats not a human picture, besides the point, I forgot to say this, its NOT about the pic but ABOUT what you can do with what YOU have is all that counts in yugioh..... Its absolutely meant for plant decks, I want them to rise back, haven't you ever thought maybe this person is wanting to make a card people will use to bring plant-type monsters back, seriously.....Use your head...... Alas, this gets more viewers and comments then if I made an realistic card anyday, you wanna know why, becuase people want to help, not to look at the card and see its good, and leave.....That what more ticks me off the most is that I made cards, and got over 1000 viewers and no replies, I'd prefer to have some reply......

@Beginning446

Oh, excuse me for not surfing the ban list yet again, I'm sorry, I have better things in life to do then constantly belittle an oldschool/newshool yugioh card maker person. and besides that point....think about it, I know new OCG better then Some, and I know what Xyz's are and that my opinion is and only is opinion which you took in literal as an fact.which is utterly ..... Main point is, don't ever call people old format player, or people will start calling you new format, move on, and ignore the fact you are there from the point on. That exactly what I'll do if you keep calling me that, take opinions from people that actually know the meta way better then you do on any given basis on any given day, plus, guess what, they are an old format player to, huh, gasp, omg, really....
Xyz it was not a fact, it was an OPINION, personal OPINION matters, think about that......
Who says I wasn't going to make upgrades for those people to, huh?
You aren't even reading the card now, are ya......Synchro Tuners are required, not regular, Synchro Tuner, and I even said Synchro in my last post...
FInally, thank you for telling me what I already knew....that is what I wanted, is it not.....
Now I know everything about you, its not even worth posting as I kow you'll continue to argue the point as I was an old world player, and who gives the bleep if I was, your supposed to comment on the card, not the PERSON.....
In all honestly, old format, old anything to my age of playing is more mean then anything, and etc...Also, yes, its mean, its not cyber bullying, but it is cruel.....You wanna know why, its unnesscesary[forgive my spelling, not good at it], and its not about the person, its about the card itself.

All I saw her today is all I needed to know that yugiohcardmaker Cards Section has offically lost its credibility and I should move on to some other site more fitting to my taste.....

[BailasGale]

@Beginning446:

Now, that is what I really wanted from the other guy, thanks for pointing out the attribute thing, I missed the attribute 2, figures......Meh, I'm losing it today....Its Dark of course.....and no, its not offensive in any sort of way, its actually a good post, legitamte, and exactly what I wanted. The only thing I don't like you say is about the pic, who the bleep cares, Sorryif you take offense, but its hard to find an black rose dragon upgrade form, and hey, astral and that kid form the show merged, why not the human and Black rose merge, so it'd be technically a dragon human, which is no special type. To get political, it could be a plant monster, but that wouldn't fit. Warrior wouldn't fit, as its part dragon, and what kind of warrior would have roses growing off them. Its not a suit, but the actual monster merged together......Besides, I hate fake-types, and anyone trying to find an legit good-super Awesome Black Rose Draagon in upgraded form thats not a human picture, besides the point, I forgot to say this, its NOT about the pic but ABOUT what you can do with what YOU have is all that counts in yugioh..... Its absolutely meant for plant decks, I want them to rise back, haven't you ever thought maybe this person is wanting to make a card people will use to bring plant-type monsters back, seriously.....Use your head...... Alas, this gets more viewers and comments then if I made an realistic card anyday, you wanna know why, becuase people want to help, not to look at the card and see its good, and leave.....That what more ticks me off the most is that I made cards, and got over 1000 viewers and no replies, I'd prefer to have some reply......

@renegade

Oh, excuse me for not surfing the ban list yet again, I'm sorry, I have better things in life to do then constantly belittle an oldschool/newshool yugioh card maker person. and besides that point....think about it, I know new OCG better then Some, and I know what Xyz's are and that my opinion is and only is opinion which you took in literal as an fact.which is utterly ..... Main point is, don't ever call people old format player, or people will start calling you new format, move on, and ignore the fact you are there from the point on. That exactly what I'll do if you keep calling me that, take opinions from people that actually know the meta way better then you do on any given basis on any given day, plus, guess what, they are an old format player to, huh, gasp, omg, really....
Xyz it was not a fact, it was an OPINION, personal OPINION matters, think about that......
Who says I wasn't going to make upgrades for those people to, huh?
You aren't even reading the card now, are ya......Synchro Tuners are required, not regular, Synchro Tuner, and I even said Synchro in my last post...
FInally, thank you for telling me what I already knew....that is what I wanted, is it not.....
Now I know everything about you, its not even worth posting as I kow you'll continue to argue the point as I was an old world player, and who gives the bleep if I was, your supposed to comment on the card, not the PERSON.....
In all honestly, old format, old anything to my age of playing is more mean then anything, and etc...Also, yes, its mean, its not cyber bullying, but it is cruel.....You wanna know why, its unnesscesary[forgive my spelling, not good at it], and its not about the person, its about the card itself.

All I saw her today is all I needed to know that yugiohcardmaker Cards Section has offically lost its credibility and I should move on to some other site more fitting to my taste.....

I'm going to go on a limb here and say you meant to switch the names....and the one that say at him is meant for me.

[Master White]

I was about to wonder I messed up names, I got to thinking it, of course, i did...besides, I have all that is left to say and this can be locked by a mod now, if any is actually there......

[~Renegade~]

http://raphtil.devia...l/11065608&qo=7<- Black Rose Dragon 'upgrade'

Whenever I comment about a card's picture, that is just merely a small thing that if it doesn't get fixed it is okay...but whatevs.

As for the attribute, why dark? Black Rose Dragon is fire...

I know you wanted this locked, I just wanted to give you that link to the pic I found.