Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]So these cards are for an RP I'm going to join(still need to finish the app). If you want to see the RP you can click [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/292311-yu-gi-oh-the-spirit-of-christmas-not-startedacceptingpg-13ooc/"]here[/url]. There is a story to this set that is told as you go trough the cards. They play style is switching battle position to activate different effects until you overpower your opponent. “The kingdom was a peaceful one. Even those that had very little had smiles on their faces. I wish I could see those smile again.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133578-Peace-Filled_Kingdom"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133578.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: All "Sorrow Tale:" monsters gain 500 ATK and DEF points. Once per turn you can select one "Sorrow Tale:" monster you control and one monster your opponent controls. Switch their battle position. “My father was a brilliant man. He made time for me and time for his kingdom. He was a valiant man, choosing to fight alongside his men. I miss him.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133585-Sorrow_Tale__King"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133585.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up it gains 900 ATK only while in attack position. When this card is switched from attack position to defense select one monster on the field. Once only if it would be destroyed by battle it is not. “My mother was full of love for me, my dad, and the kingdom. She would always take request from her people, usually saying yes to them. Why did she need to say yes to the army?”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133590-Sorrow_Tale__Queen"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133590.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up select one monster on the field. Switch the ATK and DEF of the selected monster. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position this card gains 900 DEF points only while in defense position. “I was a happy child, I had loving parents and got everything I wanted. Unlike all those that lived bellow me.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133598-Sorrow_Tale__Child_Princess"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133598.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up select one monster on the field. Half the selected monsters ATK points. When this card is switched form attack position to defense position you can tribute this card to Special Summon 1 "Sorrow Tale: Princess" from your deck. “I had many pets growing up, but Fidus was my first and favorite. He was a wonderful companion as a child. I had so much fun with him, if only I still had him.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133602-Sorrow_Tale__Royal_Pet_Fidus"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133602.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore:When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can Special Summon one "Sorrow Tale" monster from your hand. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position you can banish one monster you control. Return the banished monster in its original position during your next standby Phase. “The castle guards, very friendly people. Some of the only friends I had growing up. No wonder they decided to end their lifes to protect me.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133607-Sorrow_Tale__Castle_Guard"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133607.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can destroy one Spell or Trap card on the field. If you activate this effect this monster cannot attack this turn. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position no other "Sorrow Tale" monster can be targeted for an attack or card effect. “While I was in my late teens I used to argue a lot with my parents, just like any other teenager. Still those memories are the only good ones I have now.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133617-Sorrow_Tale__Princess"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133617.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can select one "Sorrow Tale" monster in your graveyard. Special Summon it. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position you can tribute this card and one other monster to Special Summon 1 "Sorrow Tale: Warrior Princess" “This beast, this beast come from nowhere. Destroying everything in its path. By itself it shrouded the kingdom in darkness, a darkness that won’t soon be forgotten.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133622-Sorrow_Tale__Dragoon"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133622.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can select one monster on the field. Destroy that card and inflict damage to your opponent equal to its level x 200. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position you can select one other monster you control. it gains 1300 ATK and DEF only while this card remains in defense position. “Oh ‘My knight in Shining Armor.’ How I despised him. He thought too much of himself, I actually don’t mind that he is no longer here.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133627-Sorrow_Tale__Knight_in_Shining_Armor"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133627.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: [color=#000000]When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up it can attack twice this turn. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position you can select one monster on the field. It cannot attack or switch battle positions until your opponents next End Phase.[/color] “This steed was actually more fun than that flamboyant knight. If it wasn’t for it I wouldn’t be here right now.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133633-Sorrow_Tale__Knight_s_Steed"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133633.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can equip it to one monster you control. You can half the equipped monsters ATK until the End Phase. It can attack directly this turn. When this card is switched form attack position to defense you cannot take a direct attack until your opponents next End Phase. “Our army was one of the strongest around, although they never needed to go to actual war due to the peace that covered the land. They were caught off guard though; there was no way they could have won.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133638-Sorrow_Tale__Army_Soldier"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133638.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can Special Summon one "Sorrow Tail: Army Soldier" from your deck. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position you can switch the battle position of all "Sorrow Tale: Army Soldier" on the field to attack position. “This passage way was the only reason I escaped. Only my family, some of the royal guards, and I knew about it. So why is it that I’m the only one that used it.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133644-Castle_s_Hidden_Passage"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133644.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When a "Sorrow Tale" monster you control is targeted for an attack negate the attack and banish the attack target. Special Summon the banished monster during your next Standby Phase. You can banish this card from your graveyard to switch the battle position of one monster you control. “I ran, I ran as fast as I could; away from all the bloodshed. I would have gone further if not for this mysterious woman. I spoke to her no longer than 5 minutes, but that was enough for her to change me.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133650-Sorrow_Tale__Mysterious_Woman"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133650.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up you can select one "Sorrow Tale" monster in your deck. Add that card to your hand. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position you can select one "Sorrow Tale" monster in your graveyard. Add that monster to your hand. “I was always been taken care of, relying on people to do things for me. No more though, I could no longer do that. It was time I took care of things myself."[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133658-Sorrow_Tale__Warrior_Princess"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133658.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: This card inflicts piercing damage. Once per turn you can select one monster on the field and switch its battle position. When this card is switched from defense position to attack position or is flipped face-up it gains the following effect only while in attack position. -Once per turn you can select one monster your opponents controls and switch it battle position. When this card is switched from attack position to defense position it gains the following effect only while in defense position. -Once per turn you can select one monster on the field. Its ATK and DEF becomes 0 until your opponents next End Phase. “There were so many innocent people who could not defend themselves. Although outnumbered, there were people that chose to protect them.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133667-Protect_the_Weak"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133667.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: This card can only be activated when your opponent controls a monster with the highest ATK on the field. Special Summon one "Sorrow Tale" monster from your deck. No other monster on your side of the field except for the Special Summoned monster can be targeted for an attack as long as the Special Summoned monster is on the field. The Special Summoned monster is banished during the End Phase. “Although the chance of me being successful was so slim it could be considered zero, I still chose to fight.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133670-Will_to_Fight"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133670.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: If a "Sorrow Tale" monster attacks a monster with a higher ATK, the attacking monster gains ATK equal to half its own ATK during damage calculation only. “When the battle between the beast and I began there were still a few warriors left. So together we fought the beast. Although I was probably one of the least skilled, I was the only one that survived.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133672-Together_as_One"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133672.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: Select two "Sorrow Tale" monsters you control and one monster your opponent controls. If the combined ATK of your selected monsters is higher that your opponents selected monster destroy that card. “ The beast now lays on the ground, no longer enjoying his life. Still he managed to cause such grief.”[/font][/size] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133677-Slayed_Beast"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133677.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: Select one "Sorrow Tale" monster on your side of the field. Special Summon one monster from either players graveyard that was destroyed by the selected monster.[/font][/size] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“I wish it could have ended like this, with no pain or sorrow. Too bad fairy tales aren't real.”[/font] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133686-Happily_Ever_After"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133686.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: During the End Phase when no monster was destroyed you can Special Summon one "Sorrow Tale" monster from your graveyard.[/font][/size] [font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“I stand here alone, no one is left. All those that I cared about are gone now. Still, it is the appropriate punishment for one that fled.”[/font] [url="http://yugico.com/user/33289-Piercer_of_the_Heavens/card/33636-Sorrow_Tale/133681-Sorrow_of_Loneliness"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/133681.jpg[/img][/url] [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Lore: This card can only be activated when there is only one monster on the field. If you control that monster switch it to defense position and gain life points equal to its ATK. If your opponent controls the monster decrease it ATK to 0 and inflict damage to your opponents life points equal to its original ATK.[/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Gustos Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 castle guard has no stars. just to let you know. Love the set by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't notice for some reason. I'll fix it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunKistRebelution Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Okay, I like the set overall. I think the effect activation is innovative, and the idea is an original one. I like the general cohesiveness of the set. I feel that the switching battle positions slows it down enough that almost everything is balanced. That said, I have some points/questions: 1. In general, do these effects stack if you continually change the Monster's battle position? The rest of these points will assume not, at least for the stat-boosting effects. Moving on. 2. King is a pretty easy 3000 ATK-beater for just 1 Tribute. Granted, you do have to switch his battle position, but this archetype makes that almost no obstacle. Make that 3500, I just noticed, if you have the field spell out. 3. The wording of Sorrow of Loneliness makes it seem like your opponent would lose 0 Life Points. Perhaps change the second mentioning of ATK to "original ATK". 4. How does Protecting the Weak work if the SSed card would be destroyed? Can your opponent attack directly? Is the SSed monster indestructible by battle? 5. I don't think the passageway should end the battle phase. It seems more fitting with the theme of the card and its backstory to do a sort of Galaxy Eyes-style banishing until your next standby phase, while also negating the attack. Honestly It just has too many things that benefit its user without any cost IMO. 6. I'm on the fence about Steed purely because of the fact that your opponent has no chance to capitalize on the reduced ATK, which makes its drawbacks a lot less potent and unbalancing it. Again this is just IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 [b]I just looked around at the set:[/b] I really like the boss monster of the set, she's not too overpowered like Judgment Dragon and she's relatively easy to get out making it actually worth bringing her out. Her abilities compliment the set very well. Your Spells/Traps (as well as Mysterious Woman) should probably specify Sorrow Tale monsters. The Dragon is overpowered but is hard to get out, while it may seem like that balances it out, it's better to tone down the effect and make a Spell or something to more easily summon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 [quote name='SunKistRebelution' timestamp='1352617231' post='6066281'] Okay, I like the set overall. I think the effect activation is innovative, and the idea is an original one. I like the general cohesiveness of the set. I feel that the switching battle positions slows it down enough that almost everything is balanced. That said, I have some points/questions: 1. In general, do these effects stack if you continually change the Monster's battle position? The rest of these points will assume not, at least for the stat-boosting effects. Moving on. 2. King is a pretty easy 3000 ATK-beater for just 1 Tribute. Granted, you do have to switch his battle position, but this archetype makes that almost no obstacle. Make that 3500, I just noticed, if you have the field spell out. 3. The wording of Sorrow of Loneliness makes it seem like your opponent would lose 0 Life Points. Perhaps change the second mentioning of ATK to "original ATK". 4. How does Protecting the Weak work if the SSed card would be destroyed? Can your opponent attack directly? Is the SSed monster indestructible by battle? 5. I don't think the passageway should end the battle phase. It seems more fitting with the theme of the card and its backstory to do a sort of Galaxy Eyes-style banishing until your next standby phase, while also negating the attack. Honestly It just has too many things that benefit its user without any cost IMO. 6. I'm on the fence about Steed purely because of the fact that your opponent has no chance to capitalize on the reduced ATK, which makes its drawbacks a lot less potent and unbalancing it. Again this is just IMHO. [/quote] 1) The ATK/DEF boost are not suppose to stack. I edited the cards that had some effect like that and specified. 2) Like I said his ATK cannot stack anymore. Other than that I don't know what to do with it. 3) Changed the effect like you said. Thank you for pointing that out. 4) I edited to make it make more sense. Tell me if it still confusing. 5) I edited so just read it and tell me if that fits better please. 6) I really don't know what to do with him. So I'm leaving him alone for now. Thank you for the detailed review by the way. [quote name='AixDivadis' timestamp='1352648540' post='6066420'] [b]I just looked around at the set:[/b] I really like the boss monster of the set, she's not too overpowered like Judgment Dragon and she's relatively easy to get out making it actually worth bringing her out. Her abilities compliment the set very well. Your Spells/Traps (as well as Mysterious Woman) should probably specify Sorrow Tale monsters. The Dragon is overpowered but is hard to get out, while it may seem like that balances it out, it's better to tone down the effect and make a Spell or something to more easily summon it. [/quote] I edited the spell/trap/mysterious woman so that they specify a "Sorrow Tale" monster. I edited Dragoon's effect so the ATK/DEF boost is only while it is in DEF. Other than that I don't know what else to do to town down the effect. He is somewhat easy to summon it, all you need is the field, royal pet, and Dragoon in your hand. Or have it in your grave and use Princess. Well anyways Dragoon is kind of hard to summon which is why I made his effect powerful so yeah. By the way all the edits are in the lore, not the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunKistRebelution Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I approve of all changes made, except it seems you didn't change Protect the Weak whatsoever. It does not answer any of my questions either in your explanation or the new lore. Also, if you edit yugico cards on the yugico website it automatically updates them here. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='SunKistRebelution' timestamp='1352680017' post='6067038'] I approve of all changes made, except it seems you didn't change Protect the Weak whatsoever. It does not answer any of my questions either in your explanation or the new lore. Also, if you edit yugico cards on the yugico website it automatically updates them here. Just FYI. [/quote] I did not know that. Well let me explain what I want "Protect the Weak" to do and you can help me with the wording of the effect. It is suppose to be able to get you out off a tough situation by summoning a strong monster.([color=#5A5A5A][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]This card can only be activated when your opponent controls a monster with the highest ATK on the field. Special Summon one "Sorrow Tale" monster from your deck.)[/background][/font][/color] If activated during your turn you can use it to attack your opponents monsters. If activated during your opponents turn you can summon a monster and that must be the first monster that has to be attacked. Essentially protecting you for one turn. [color=#5A5A5A][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)]( No other monster on your side of the field except for the Special Summoned monster can be targeted for an attack as long as the Special Summoned monster is on the field.) [/background][/font][/color]Then at the end phase the monster is banished. [color=#5A5A5A][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][background=rgb(251, 253, 254)](The Special Summoned monster is banished during the End Phase.([/background][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunKistRebelution Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 My questions are the following: What happens if that Monster is destroyed? Can the other person attack other Monsters? If not, can the SSed Monster be destroyed by battle? If the other person cannot attack Monsters and the SSed Monster can be destroyed, can the other person attack directly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 [quote name='SunKistRebelution' timestamp='1352690819' post='6067190'] My questions are the following: What happens if that Monster is destroyed? Can the other person attack other Monsters? If not, can the SSed Monster be destroyed by battle? If the other person cannot attack Monsters and the SSed Monster can be destroyed, can the other person attack directly? [/quote] 1) If the special summoned monster is destroyed then its destroyed. It will be banished during the End Phase regardless of where it ends up. 2) As long as the special summoned monster is on the field the opponent cannot attack another monster. Once the special summoned monster is destroyed/banished the opponent attacks normally(if there's a monster on the field attack the monster, if not attack directly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunKistRebelution Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Ah, that clears things up. Thank you for your patience with the obstinance of my stubborn brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piercer of the Heavens Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 No problem, I tend to not be good at explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barian Warlord Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I really don't know how I feel about this set, you have a lot and I mean a lot of powerful effects but changing battle position to activate them seems to balance that out, But then again your Spells and Traps provide support that can neutralizer those weaknesses and don't have many costs and more then anything you need to power down Peace-filled Kingdom archetype power up bringing a single level 4 monster up to 2400 attack and letting you easily switch battle position maybe on or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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