Tristan Tsunami Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 A deck I built on DN, and I was looking for some feedback. I could not use this name for it on there due to the character cap; so it got redubbed "TwilightDuelist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 You just shoved a whole bunch of random cards into a 60 card Deck. The most cards you should ever, ever have is 43, I typically opt for 40 or 41. Cut out the random crap like Trap Hole... who ever uses Trap Hole any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlegary Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 who ever uses Trap Hole any more? I Do, it's helped me out tons of times, probably beacause nobody expects it. Now unless you really need them, i would take out the crashbugs, you should try another Galaxy-eyes, to use Galaxy Knight's effect better. Now Counter Counter is good, but you do have 2 other things in there that negate traps, so maybe consider something to stop spells, a card i reccomend is Magic Drain. It's a strange deck, but i like it. But i must ask, why is Simochi in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Tsunami Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 You just shoved a whole bunch of random cards into a 60 card Deck. The most cards you should ever, ever have is 43, I typically opt for 40 or 41. Cut out the random crap like Trap Hole... who ever uses Trap Hole any more? One of my friends uses a Teir 1 Gemini deck, that thing can be useful against it. I Do, it's helped me out tons of times, probably beacause nobody expects it. Now unless you really need them, i would take out the crashbugs, you should try another Galaxy-eyes, to use Galaxy Knight's effect better. Now Counter Counter is good, but you do have 2 other things in there that negate traps, so maybe consider something to stop spells, a card i reccomend is Magic Drain. It's a strange deck, but i like it. But i must ask, why is Simochi in there? He also has an infinite draw + LP gain combo using Solemn Wishes (a legal combo in Advance Format as of the last ban list), Bad Reaction to Simochi stops it cold. And thanks I will consider that.You just shoved a whole bunch of random cards into a 60 card Deck. The most cards you should ever, ever have is 43, I typically opt for 40 or 41. Cut out the random crap like Trap Hole... who ever uses Trap Hole any more? Also, after I work out the kinks and find out what does and does not work, I usually try to trim a deck down to first 50, and then after more work/testing down to between 40-45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 One of my friends uses a Teir 1 Gemini deck, that thing can be useful against it. There is no such thing as Tier 1 Gemini Deck. I Do, it's helped me out tons of times, probably beacause nobody expects it. Just because you do, doesn't mean anyone else should. If anything, it means they shouldn't. He also has an infinite draw + LP gain combo using Solemn Wishes (a legal combo in Advance Format as of the last ban list), Bad Reaction to Simochi stops it cold. Combo? There is no such combo. No but seriously. You cannot expect to have a deck with Crashbug, Photon Galaxy, Heroic, Gagaga and some other random cards shoved in to work, unless you are playing some really, really, really, really, really crappy deck irl. I don't even know what you are trying to accomplish here with this Deck. And how is it Twilight without Chaos stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 This Deck is extremely mismatched. The reason most players keep their Deck at 40 is so they get the cards they need as quickly and consistently. 60 cards makes this more difficult, and most of the cards you're using are at one copy, making it increasingly unlikely you'll draw any of them. Some of the choices are even outright illogical, like Heroic Challenger Double Lance at 1. Double Lance is only good if you're running at least 2 of them, or the random Dark Magician Girl, which literally has no purpose in this Deck by itself. You also used the phrase "Tier 1 Gemini Deck", which would get you mocked by pretty much every remotely competitive player on the site. The closest thing to a competitive Gemini Deck was Gigavise, if memory serves, and that Deck is outdated. Your argument for Bad Reaction was that you know someone who uses Solemn Wishes and an infinite draw combo. Ignoring the fact that infinite draw combos don't need Solemn Wishes to net an instant win, your Deck shouldn't be trying to counter literally everything at once. No Deck is able to neutralize every other Deck or strategy and still function on its own. I can't even figure out this Deck's goal, which makes me think it really is just a 60 card mash of cards thrown together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Tsunami Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 okay, one thing, I will give you double lancer, i should have chosen another card. another is, this deck works quite well; the stragey is tough to see, but; it is there. It's flexable, with an emphisase on field swarming and XYZ summonig. As for Dark Magician Girl; IT'S MY FAVORITE CARD, even if it has no strategic value in a deck, I put it in just about any deck I build online and off. You may say I'm crazy and bring up the laws of probablity, but if i have it in a deck I tend to have incredible luck. and my friends infinite draw combo, the point of it is to gain a crap load of life points, get his entire deck in his hand then pull out The Tyrant Neptune, and make it virtually indestructiable. Then he plays localized tornado and reforms his deck and does it again. I happen to have the recipe for it, and it is not a pure Gemini Deck, but it is definetly a Teir 1. The guy is a genuis. It may look random, but I have a skill for taking cards in this type of assortment, and building VERY effective decks with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Take that mess into rated and see how you fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlegary Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I can't even figure out this Deck's goal, which makes me think it really is just a 60 card mash of cards thrown together. Although, sometimes having a bunch of everything can be a good thing, like if your big combo is shut down, you still have something to go on. I Built a deck of just a mash of cards(working commonly used stuff like Rai-oh and monster reborn in) and it works pretty decently, i get what i need to win most of the time. So just because it's a mash of cards doesn't mean it's a bad deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Tsunami Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I did, last night and today, it was about 50-50, i tended to go get opponents with ratings and experience about twice mine, and a genuis who could Synchro summon 5 times in one turn with the end result being Shooting Quaser Dragon, he has my respect. I did, last night and today, it was about 50-50, i tended to go get opponents with ratings and experience about twice mine, and a genuis who could Synchro summon 5 times in one turn with the end result being Shooting Quaser Dragon, he has my respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 [quote name="Turtlegary" post="6169577" timestamp="1364342739"]Although, sometimes having a bunch of everything can be a good thing, like if your big combo is shut down, you still have something to go on. I Built a deck of just a mash of cards(working commonly used stuff like Rai-oh and monster reborn in) and it works pretty decently, i get what i need to win most of the time. So just because it's a mash of cards doesn't mean it's a bad deck.[/quote] So what's you're saying is that an inconsistent pile of mediocre cards that don't work with one another whatsoever to achieve a focused goal is a "good deck"? And your argument that you can "get what you need most of the time" is bad and only proves that your deck is inconsistent if you're relying on topdecking. This is 2013. Get your head out of goat format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Tsunami Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Although, sometimes having a bunch of everything can be a good thing, like if your big combo is shut down, you still have something to go on. I Built a deck of just a mash of cards(working commonly used stuff like Rai-oh and monster reborn in) and it works pretty decently, i get what i need to win most of the time. So just because it's a mash of cards doesn't mean it's a bad deck. thank you, I have a certain knack for it. In Middle School (back in 2007-2008) I had very few cards to work with, but put together this then Advance Format legit deck that I dubbed the Magical Dragon Slayer. I will put it up in a second. if i can figure out how to attach it that is...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Tsunami Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 i finally decide to post the list... The Magical Dragon Slayer; my 07-08 deck: Monsters: Dark Magician Girl x1 Felgrand Dragon x1 Tyrant Dragon x1 Blue-Eyes White Dragon x2 Red-Eyes Black Dragon x1 Dark Magician x1 Elemental HERO Bladedge x1 Elemental HERO Aivian x1 Elemental HERO Bubbleman x Elemental HERO Bursinatrix x1 Elemental HERO Clayman x1 Elemental HERO Sparkman x1 Elemental HERO Wildheart x1 Lord of D. x1 Skilled Dark Magician x1 Masked Dragon x1 Kaiser Sea Horse x1 Element Dragon x1 Element Dragon x1 Spear Dragon x1 Versago the Destroyer x1 Red-Eyes B. Chick x1 Luster Dragon x1 Royal Magical Library x1 Blast Magician x1 Breaker the Magical Warrior x1 Mystical Elf x1 Black Luster Soldier x1 Obnoxious Celtic Guard x1 Spells: Black Luster Ritual x1 Spell Economics x1 Mausoleum of the Emperor x1 The Flute of Summoning Dragon x1 Monster Reincarnation x1 Graceful Dice x1 Lightning Vortex x1 Polymerization x2 Scapegoat x1 Thousand Knives x1 Swords of Revealing Light x1 Mystical Space Typhoon x1 Dragon's Treasure x1 Dragon's Gunfire x1 Traps: Trap Hole x1 Sakuretsu Armor x1 Seven Tools of the Bandit x1 Magic Cylinder x1 Gift of the Mystical Elf x1 Draining Shield x1 Negate Attack x1 Shadow Spell x1 Spellbinding Circle x1 Raigeki Break x1 Solemn Wishes x1 Threatening Roar x1 D. Tribe x1 Dust Tornado x1 Fusion Deck: Elemental HERO Wildedge x1 Elemental HERO Thunder Giant x1 Elemental HERO Flame Wingman x1 Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon x1 back in 07-08, this deck reguraly destroyed my friends, most of who used Agro Dragon Decks, thus earning the name The Magical Dragon Slayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 The best I can suggest for this Deck is what to remove. MONSTERS: Heroic Challenger - Spartan (effect requires your opponent to make a bad decision) Heroic Challenger - Double Lance (does nothing on its own) Gagaga Girl (you have no reliable way to search for it) Ganbara Knight (without Giant Rat, you might as well just run a stronger defender and Set it) Photon Circle (supported, but very weak, and not necessary) SPELLS: Gagagabolt (you only had 2 Gagaga monsters and your only way of reviving one is with Message in a Bottle) Galaxy Wave (only viable in Decks that can Xyz 3 times every turn, like Constellar) TRAPS: Rainbow Life (uses up more cards than the Life Points are worth) Bad Reaction to Simochi -- Now this one is important. If it cripples your opponent's Deck, why take it out? Because the fewer cards are in your Deck, the better your odds of putting together a cool Tiras or Chaos Utopia play. If your Deck is fast enough, you can push your opponent for more than they can recover. Add both Photon Sabre Tiger and Scrap-Iron Scarecrow to the Main Deck. As for the "Tier 1" thing: There is no objective definition of what makes a Deck "Tier 1". Here is a good Deck that doesn't cost too much to put together: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtlegary Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 i finally decide to post the list... The Magical Dragon Slayer; my 07-08 deck: Monsters: Dark Magician Girl x1 Felgrand Dragon x1 Tyrant Dragon x1 Blue-Eyes White Dragon x2 Red-Eyes Black Dragon x1 Dark Magician x1 Elemental HERO Bladedge x1 Elemental HERO Aivian x1 Elemental HERO Bubbleman x Elemental HERO Bursinatrix x1 Elemental HERO Clayman x1 Elemental HERO Sparkman x1 Elemental HERO Wildheart x1 Lord of D. x1 Skilled Dark Magician x1 Masked Dragon x1 Kaiser Sea Horse x1 Element Dragon x1 Element Dragon x1 Spear Dragon x1 Versago the Destroyer x1 Red-Eyes B. Chick x1 Luster Dragon x1 Royal Magical Library x1 Blast Magician x1 Breaker the Magical Warrior x1 Mystical Elf x1 Black Luster Soldier x1 Obnoxious Celtic Guard x1 Spells: Black Luster Ritual x1 Spell Economics x1 Mausoleum of the Emperor x1 The Flute of Summoning Dragon x1 Monster Reincarnation x1 Graceful Dice x1 Lightning Vortex x1 Polymerization x2 Scapegoat x1 Thousand Knives x1 Swords of Revealing Light x1 Mystical Space Typhoon x1 Dragon's Treasure x1 Dragon's Gunfire x1 Traps: Trap Hole x1 Sakuretsu Armor x1 Seven Tools of the Bandit x1 Magic Cylinder x1 Gift of the Mystical Elf x1 Draining Shield x1 Negate Attack x1 Shadow Spell x1 Spellbinding Circle x1 Raigeki Break x1 Solemn Wishes x1 Threatening Roar x1 D. Tribe x1 Dust Tornado x1 Fusion Deck: Elemental HERO Wildedge x1 Elemental HERO Thunder Giant x1 Elemental HERO Flame Wingman x1 Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon x1 back in 07-08, this deck reguraly destroyed my friends, most of who used Agro Dragon Decks, thus earning the name The Magical Dragon Slayer. I Really like this deck, sure it uses a lot of old and underused cards, but it has originality, and that's a good thing. it does look pretty powerful too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I Really like this deck, sure it uses a lot of old and underused cards, but it has originality, and that's a good thing. it does look pretty powerful too. Originality doesn't mean anything if you can't do what you want. And there is a reason why those cards are underused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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