I Hate Snatch Steal Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 By that I mean something very simple eg "what is yugi's ace monster? [either TCG or OCG name]" like they do on neo ark cradle. The reason is that no spambot is ever going to guess "Black Magician" or "Dark Magician" but that is something that virtually any yu-gi-oh fan would know. I'm not trying to weed people out here, just spambots. It could be extended to ask "What is the name of the protagonist's ace monster? [Any series is fine]" so that newer fans can answer it too. Lets face it, the status feed has gotten 3+ spambots in the last 2 days alone. Why not stop them before they even join so the mods can do other things with their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Because spambots are smarter, one person finds out the answer to the question they share out the information-it's not necessarily impossible to counter bots but adding more questions won't stop them... something that requires more manual labour however might work (i,e a bar to move across a sign up page that requires java/html5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Because spambots are smarter, one person finds out the answer to the question they share out the information-it's not necessarily impossible to counter bots but adding more questions won't stop them... something that requires more manual labour however might work (i,e a bar to move across a sign up page that requires java/html5) heh heh, I didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Questions did seem to hold them most back until the Spam Monitoring Service expired, I ban upto 10 a day now up from 0. Totally support a question, but not necessarily a YGO one, because that will exclude alot of members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I support having a question, but a Yugioh one might keep a few actual members away b/c they never grew up with the original series or something. But I can agree that the spambots are annoying as heck lately. We could add a captcha code to it, but that requires some work to implement. (I don't remember if we currently have one, though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Because spambots are smarter, one person finds out the answer to the question they share out the information-it's not necessarily impossible to counter bots but adding more questions won't stop them... something that requires more manual labour however might work (i,e a bar to move across a sign up page that requires java/html5) You know, we could just could just change the sign-up question every once in a while. I'm going to go try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I didn't know we still had control over that. Given the amount of bots suddenly coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yeah, I forgot we did. Though normal mods need to go add the permissions for it themselves. Added the question "What year did the War of 1812 start?" Will change it again when we start seeing more spambots again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megamaw Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 why don't we just use a honeypot field? Much easier, to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 No support for specifically Yugioh questions, but I do think that switching up the questions or something is a good idea. Added the question "What year did the War of 1812 start?" HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT? THAT WILL TAKE HOURS OF RESEARCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Working so far the 4 spambots I banned this morning were all registered before implementation. All these people who have let their computers be taken over.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Oh, I thought they were new and changed the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 1 has already gotten through. Registration 10 mins ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 Yeah, the question was too typical, I asked if the registrant was human. Changed it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megamaw Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 why don't we just use a honeypot field? Much easier, to be honest Is anyone even listening. The honeypot trap usually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Re: Question"What year did the war of 1812 start" is too easy for a bot to decipher. I belive some may even have that copy and paste parts of the question into it. Granted the past question had that too.Anything that has only 4 characters or less as a response wouldn't be good enough.Alternative: Leave a link to an imgur picture of a word. Put the link up. Tell them to read the word.Re: "What is Yugi's ace?""I dunno, I just saw the first episode! I'm gonna guess... Exodia?""Just finished episode two. He almost beat Pegasus with that Skull thing... uhh... Summon Skull? Wrong? Let's try Summoned Skull. Wrong again? Hmm...""Yugi cried hard when he lost Exodia. That's gotta be it...""Finished the fourth episode! He used that Skull thing again. That's gotta be it! No? Maybe I'm mishearing it. Summoner Skull?""Oh... Joey's dueling someone?""Okay... Giant Soldier of Stone? The Moon? Come on YCM, work with me!""Ugh... "Winged Dragon, Guardian of the Fortress #1? Maybe I mispelled something...""Mystical Elf? Mystic Horesman? Monster Reborn? Blue Eyes? Celtic Guardian? What is it!?""Oh look, Joey's dueling again...""Oh... it's the Dark Magician."-Finished the Battle City Arc-"It's probably Slifer! No? Okay fine, 'Slifer the Sky Dragon'. No again!? Maybe they're OCGfags. Osiris. No!? Saint Dragon - The God of Osiris. Still nothing!?"But basically, If we had to do a "what's a guy's ace" card, ask for Kaiba's instead. His has always been Blue Eyes White Dragon, since the very beginning.Re: "HURR! Honeypot!"No one knows what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Re: Question "What year did the war of 1812 start" is too easy for a bot to decipher. I belive some may even have that copy and paste parts of the question into it. Granted the past question had that too. Anything that has only 4 characters or less as a response wouldn't be good enough. Alternative: Leave a link to an imgur picture of a word. Put the link up. Tell them to read the word. Re: "What is Yugi's ace?" "I dunno, I just saw the first episode! I'm gonna guess... Exodia?" "Just finished episode two. He almost beat Pegasus with that Skull thing... uhh... Summon Skull? Wrong? Let's try Summoned Skull. Wrong again? Hmm..." "Yugi cried hard when he lost Exodia. That's gotta be it..." "Finished the fourth episode! He used that Skull thing again. That's gotta be it! No? Maybe I'm mishearing it. Summoner Skull?" "Oh... Joey's dueling someone?" "Okay... Giant Soldier of Stone? The Moon? Come on YCM, work with me!" "Ugh... "Winged Dragon, Guardian of the Fortress #1? Maybe I mispelled something..." "Mystical Elf? Mystic Horesman? Monster Reborn? Blue Eyes? Celtic Guardian? What is it!?" "Oh look, Joey's dueling again..." "Oh... it's the Dark Magician." -Finished the Battle City Arc- "It's probably Slifer! No? Okay fine, 'Slifer the Sky Dragon'. No again!? Maybe they're OCGfags. Osiris. No!? Saint Dragon - The God of Osiris. Still nothing!?" But basically, If we had to do a "what's a guy's ace" card, ask for Kaiba's instead. His has always been Blue Eyes White Dragon, since the very beginning. Re: "HURR! Honeypot!" No one knows what you're talking about. I never thought of the Yugi's ace question that way, good point. edit: sigged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megamaw Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Re: "HURR! Honeypot!" No one knows what you're talking about. are you A: unable to look it up for yourself, B: too bull-headed to think anyone knows what I'm talking about so it must not be a thing or C: some combination of the two http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 Given we probably don't have nearly enough Admin control of if IPBoard even allow that, I wouldn't say that's a good idea. Don't get cheeky either, not everyone appreciates it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 are you A: unable to look it up for yourself, B: too bull-headed to think anyone knows what I'm talking about so it must not be a thing or C: some combination of the two http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_%28computing%29 If you ever want to be taken seriously in anything, you should probably get into the habit of explaining shit. Which you still haven't done by the way, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megamaw Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 If you ever want to be taken seriously in anything, you should probably get into the habit of explaining s***. Which you still haven't done by the way, Geez, it's just a field invisible to humans that bots can see, so the creator knows if it's filled, the person filling it out is a bot. Don't need to get smarmy with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Question: Are you a bot? The trick part is, the right answer should be yes, to get to the site. But no, seriously, a simple math question could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Question: Are you a bot? The trick part is, the right answer should be yes, to get to the site. But no, seriously, a simple math question could work. That works, though the bot might get smart and just say yes to it. The math idea sounds good, and I definitely would support it. However, the questions should be something a 12 or 13-year old can solve it on their own w/out having to resort to a calculator; instead of the simple addition problems. In this case, that would probably be some form of long multiplication/division or intro to pre-algebraic stuff [x + 2 = 2x - 4, what is x or something along those lines]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 x + 5 = 10 What is watermelon- *shot* What is x XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'm here and I don't even know what the hell is yugioh, so yeah, math question option sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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