heraldry_lord Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Minerva, Lightsworn Saint Rank 4 LIGHT Fairy-Type Xyz Effect Monster ATK 2000 DEF 800 2 Level 4 monsters You can only use each effect of “Minerva, Lightsworn Saint” once per turn. (1) You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard, and if there are any “Lightsworn” cards sent, draw 1 card from your Deck for each. (2) If this card is destroyed by battle or your opponent’s card effect: You can send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard, and if there are any “Lightsworn” cards sent, you can destroy a number of cards on the field up to that amount. Source: http://ygorganization.com/corejpleaks133minervareturns/ Needless to say, this is an OCG exclusive, and a pretty good one, which is unsurprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 So good. Although Lightsworn dont need the extra support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Will Lightsworn direct support ever end? I know they're one of the more popular and prominent archetypes in the game but this feels so unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 So good. Although Lightsworn dont need the extra supportWill Lightsworn support ever end? I know they're one of the more popular and prominent archetypes in the game but this feels so unnecessary.With the death of Dragon Rulers, the only chances they had of being playable kind of just went away. As a result, they want to give something back to the Lightsworn players by giving them new support to keep the deck at least a little bit relevant so it does feel necessary in a sense.Card's insane though. Does so much that the deck wants with the only downside being it's a little tough to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 nutty card is nutty, but at least the more focused your build is to summon this, the less you'd get ridic mileage out of this. A potential +bajilion is still stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Didn't we already have an LS card named Minerva; that Tuner in the LS deck? Or is this her grown-up version? Meh, it probably doesn't matter. Generic and helps with other Decks that utilize the Graveyard, but yeah she gives more draw power for LS if they mill things for JD. And then, it blows up stuff equal to how many LS 'mons you mill. Usage-wise, it can be done; but you'd have to devote resources to doing it in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Didn't we already have an LS card named Minerva; that Tuner in the LS deck? Or is this her grown-up version? Meh, it probably doesn't matter. This is the Tuner's grown-up version; don't ask me how a Level 3 Tuner became a Rank 4 Xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Wow, yeah, that's very good. It's slightly difficult to make but only slightly, but it adds a lot of consistency giving you more pre-End Phase mills and also the possibility of drawing 3 which is kinda crazy. It's luck-based but hey, so is all of Lightsworn. Pretty glad it's an OCG exclusive if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Wow, yeah, that's very good. It's slightly difficult to make but only slightly, but it adds a lot of consistency giving you more pre-End Phase mills and also the possibility of drawing 3 which is kinda crazy. It's luck-based but hey, so is all of Lightsworn. Pretty glad it's an OCG exclusive if I'm honest. We will get it eventually, so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 So this basically makes the Lightsworn Engine even more generic in use, but also becomes a pack advantage mule for Lightsworns themselves. WTF, Konami... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 *Groans in annoyance* Why the fuck does Konami insist on supporting this disgusting fucking archetype? It seems every time the ban list does the tiniest bit of harm to Konmoney's precious fucking LS, they give it a million bandaids to make it better. They didn't fucking deserve Raiden and Michael, and they don't fucking deserve a potential +3 or greater. Yes, I am fucking bitter thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 *Groans in annoyance* Why the f*** does Konami insist on supporting this disgusting f***ing archetype? Because this archetype is popular, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 So are a lot of other freaking archetypes, but I don't see Konmoney making JDs for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Yeah, this card is anything [i]but[/i] a saint. The worst part is that it yet another 2 Material Rank 4 Generic Xyz, meaning it has alot of mileage going for it (even if PureSworns aren't that good at making R4s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Because who doesn't love dropping 3 JD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 This is really lazy card design, Konami. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 If anyone sees it, that Number 5 pic is a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Honestly, as much as people hate Lightsworns, after D-Rulers got banned, the deck does need something else to be viable gain. This is insanely good, but...why OCG exclusive? ;~; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Honestly, as much as people hate Lightsworns, after D-Rulers got banned, the deck does need something else to be viable gain. This is insanely good, but...why OCG exclusive? ;~; But does it need something? Does any deck need to be viable? I understand that the deck sucked before this came out (probably still sucks with this ngl), but if the deck sucks so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Well, not NEED, but I mean that this isn't pushing an already broken archetype since LS are pretty shit nowadays. But you can ask the question to ANY deck. Why a deck gets support? Why a deck has to be viable? On what principles should we decide which archetypes need support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 No, no they don't need anything. If they got hit so thoroughly because they lost the Rulers, then maybe it's worth taking a look at the deck and knowing that it deserved to die. It freaking deserved to die. And this stupid archetype is apparently going to get 2 more monsters, and I just know one of them is going to be a LS Ruler clone that banishes 2 LIGHTs from the grave to SS itself from the Grave or Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Once more: on what basis are we choosing which archetypes need/deserve support? And don't worry, it's a OCG exclusive anyways, we're not getting it for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Once more: on what basis are we choosing which archetypes need/deserve support? And don't worry, it's a OCG exclusive anyways, we're not getting it for a long time. I thiiiiiink popularity and maybe they have a randomizer or some sort of stuff. lots of people actually liked LS so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 This could be a little more bearable if its mats were restricted to LS only. As it is now, the fact that it's completely generic just begs for anything that loves Graveyard setup. Shaddolls, for example, don't even need to main any LS to even get some form of advantage off this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Unless Lightsworns get a really good level 4 monster in addition to Saint Minerva, this card and Lightsworns as a whole won't get any better. In generic rank 4 extra decks, Lavalval Chain is better than this card 90% of the time. If Konami wants Lightsworns to actually become a modern deck, they need to print a level 4 monster that can specifically mill any Lightsworn with the tradeoff of only being able to special summon Lightsworn monsters for the rest of the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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