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IceDorago

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This most likely needs some serious work, considering this is the first deck I've made for this game.

Grade 0 (18):
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/alabaster-owl"]Alabaster Owl[/url] [color=#ffff00][C][/color]
2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/future-knight-llew"]Future Knight, Llew[/url] [color=#FFFF00][C][/color]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/margal"]Margal[/url] [color=#b22222][D][/color]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/yggdrasil-maiden-elaine"]Yggdrasil Maiden, Elaine[/url] [color=#00ff00][H][/color]
2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flogal"]Flogal[/url] [color=#0000ff][S][/color]
2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/barcgal"]Barcgal[/url]

Grade 1 (12):
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flash-shield-isolde"]Flash Shield, Isolde[/url]
2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/little-sage-marron"]Little Sage, Marron[/url]
3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/pongal"]Pongal[/url]
3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/young-pegasus-knight"]Young Pegasus Knight[/url]

Grade 2 (11):
2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/blaster-blade"]Blaster Blade[/url]
1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/eagle-knight-of-the-skies"]Eagle Knight of the Skies[/url]
3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/hi-dog-breeder-akane"]Hi-Dog Breeder, Akane[/url]
1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/hi-dog-breeder-ceylan"]Hi-Dog Breeder Ceylan[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/knight-of-truth-gordon"]Knight of Truth Gordon[/url]


Grade 3 (9):
1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/gigantic-charger"]Gigantic Charger[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/king-of-knights-alfred"]King of Knights, Alfred[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/soul-saver-dragon"]Soul Saver Dragon[/url]

Once again, probably terrible.

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Ok, it's decent but could use a little work

Let's start with help on the Rank 0s. First, you don't really need two Barcgal, as his ability only incredible at the beginning of the game, which you can do by just using Barcgal's Vanguard ability. Only 1 is needed. Second, opening with Flogal or Future Knights gives you a huge tactical edge over your opponent, and Stand is the best trigger type, so I don't see any reason to use anything less than 4 Flogals. Also, Llew is Alabaster Owl with an effect, so I wouldn't run Owl over Llew.

This is just a suggestion, but looking at the deck, wouldn't it be wiser to run:

1 Barcgal
4 Flogal
4 Llew
4 Elaine
4 Alabastar Owl/Margal (Preferably Margal)

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[quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1316317474' post='5522096']
-Eagle Knight of the Sky
-Gigantic Charger

+pongal
+blaster blade

Also how is the 2nd barcgal working?
(my preference is to only run 1 but thats just me)[/quote]

Yeah, this makes more sense, thinking about it. I don't know about the second Barcgal, when I made this, there wasn't a server up, so I haven't gotten the chance to playtest yet. I'm reducing to one Barcgal, though, cause there's not much point running double Barcgal.
[quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316317736' post='5522117']
Ok, it's decent but could use a little work

Let's start with help on the Rank 0s. First, you don't really need two Barcgal, as his ability only incredible at the beginning of the game, which you can do by just using Barcgal's Vanguard ability. Only 1 is needed. Second, opening with Flogal or Future Knights gives you a huge tactical edge over your opponent, and Stand is the best trigger type, so I don't see any reason to use anything less than 4 Flogals. Also, Llew is Alabaster Owl with an effect, so I wouldn't run Owl over Llew.

This is just a suggestion, but looking at the deck, wouldn't it be wiser to run:

1 Barcgal
4 Flogal
4 Llew
4 Elaine
4 Alabastar Owl/Margal (Preferably Margal)
[/quote]

Yeah, this seems better, I'll make the edits in the morning.

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[quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1316317474' post='5522096']-Eagle Knight of the Sky
-Gigantic Charger
+pongal
+blaster blade
Also how is the 2nd barcgal working? (my preference is to only run 1 but thats just me)[/quote]

Agreed on all parts except about Charger. Charger really isn't a bad tech for Paladins. I can see it being used, albeit not at anything more than 1. And since his deck change will leave him with one less card, due to having 1 less Grade 0, I'm not sure he has to dump Charger.

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[quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316319605' post='5522179']

Agreed on all parts except about Charger. Charger really isn't a bad tech for Paladins. I can see it being used, albeit not at anything more than 1. And since his deck change will leave him with one less card, due to having 1 less Grade 0, I'm not sure he has to dump Charger.
[/quote]

Charger isn't bad; it just he is not needed and alot of times he hits trigger that you would have got from twin drive.

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[quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1316321375' post='5522240'] Charger isn't bad; it just he is not needed and alot of times he hits trigger that you would have got from twin drive.[/quote]

But statistically speaking, he would hit the monster in front of a trigger just as often as he would remove the trigger itself. He isn't needed, but he's fun.

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[quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1316319605' post='5522179']
Agreed on all parts except about Charger. Charger really isn't a bad tech for Paladins. I can see it being used, albeit not at anything more than 1. And since his deck change will leave him with one less card, due to having 1 less Grade 0, I'm not sure he has to dump Charger.
[/quote]
Oh right, those changes dropped my Grade 0's by one. I guess I'll go with Charger, then, as it gives you a free Paladin and it gives you another unit with Twin Drive.

Edit: Wait wait wait. I was looking around and saw some stuff about Barcgal being banned from the starting Vanguard position as of 9/5 or do people not play by that on Byond?

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[quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316349133' post='5522663']
Oh right, those changes dropped my Grade 0's by one. I guess I'll go with Charger, then, as it gives you a free Paladin and it gives you another unit with Twin Drive.

Edit: Wait wait wait. I was looking around and saw some stuff about Barcgal being banned from the starting Vanguard position as of 9/5 or do people not play by that on Byond?
[/quote]

what the heck are you talking about? what have been reading that says something about that?

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[quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316361064' post='5523028']
I read it on a blog, so I Googled it, and found a bunch of stuff saying that. Guess I have to go with Trumpeter?
[/quote]

NVM found it. it doesn't apply to oversea torunments. but applies to official toruneys. lol i don't play in tourneys to start with, or according to bushiroad

also:

[url="http://cf-vanguard.com/howto/fighters_rule/"]http://cf-vanguard.com/howto/fighters_rule/[/url]

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[quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316361959' post='5523073']
[url="http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html"]http://bushiroad.fm/...+-+Barcgal.html[/url]
It said something about it being okay overseas, but idk whether it'll be banned on Byond or not.
[/quote]
it just can't be used as Starting Vanguard from what i am reading.

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[quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316361959' post='5523073'][url="http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html"]http://bushiroad.fm/post/en/371/Question+Regarding+Cardfight+Vanguard+-+Barcgal.html[/url] It said something about it being okay overseas, but idk whether it'll be banned on Byond or not.[/quote]

That stinks. I can see why they'd ban Barcgal, but that's still unfortunate.

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In that case, I don't really see the point in running Barcgal or Llew if the ablility to first turn Double ride is gone. I'd say drop the Barcgals and Llew and add back the Alabaster Owls

So we have

Grade 0

4 Flogal [Stand]
4 Elaine [Heal]
4 Alabastar Owl [Critical]
4 Margal [Draw]

Though you can replace the Owl with whatever other trigger attracts your eye.

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[quote name='IceDorago' timestamp='1316377956' post='5523861']Alabaster's a Hi-Beast, so I'll just go with that, incase I end up drawing and calling it, I can boost with Ceylan if needed for some reason. Also, I was wondering, should I even run the Ceylan, or drop it for a fourth Akane?[/quote]

I might drop Ceylan for another Blaster Blade. Even though you don't have that epic combo anymore, he's still arguably the best Grade 2 Royal Paladin.

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Grade 0 (17):
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/alabaster-owl"]Alabaster Owl[/url] [color=#FFFF00][C][/color]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/margal"]Margal[/url] [color=#B22222][D][/color]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/yggdrasil-maiden-elaine"]Yggdrasil Maiden, Elaine[/url] [color=#00FF00][H][/color]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flogal"]Flogal[/url] [color=#0000FF][S][/color]
1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/guraimu"]Guraimu[/url]

Grade 1 (13):
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/flash-shield-isolde"]Flash Shield, Isolde[/url]
2 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/little-sage-marron"]Little Sage, Marron[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/pongal"]Pongal[/url]
3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/young-pegasus-knight"]Young Pegasus Knight[/url]

Grade 2 (11):
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/blaster-blade"]Blaster Blade[/url]
3 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/hi-dog-breeder-akane"]Hi-Dog Breeder, Akane[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/knight-of-truth-gordon"]Knight of Truth Gordon[/url]


Grade 3 (9):
1 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/gigantic-charger"]Gigantic Charger[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/king-of-knights-alfred"]King of Knights, Alfred[/url]
4 [url="http://cf-vanguard.wikidot.com/soul-saver-dragon"]Soul Saver Dragon[/url]

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