Ace_RKO_ Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I really wanted your guys opinion on the Gravekeeper decks that I run at tourney right now. Spells/traps (19) 3 necrovalley 2 Gravekeepers Stele 2 Rite of Spirit 2 Mystical Space typhoon 2 Shadow Spell 1 Heavy storm 1Trap Hole 1 dark illusion 1 Allure of Darkness 1Dark Hole 1 Compulsory Evacuation Device 1 Mirror Force 1Defense Draw Monsters (24) 3 Gravekeepers Guard 1 Snowman Eater 3 Gravekeepers Spy 1 Sangan 2 Battle Fader 3 Gravekeepers Comandant 3 Gravekeepers Descendant 2 Gravekeepers Recruiter 1 mystic Tomato 1 man-eater Bug 2 Gravekeepers Visionary 2 Pitch-Black Warewolf extra Deck 3 Wind-up Zenmeister 3 Utopia 3 Number 17 Leviathan Dragon (extra deck needs alot of work) What are your thoughts? How can I make it better? How do you run gravekeepers? What are your thoughts on the archetype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfopresident Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='jamesfopresident' timestamp='1325486010' post='5744045'] I lol'd. [/quote] Why teh lolz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 James, here on YCM we at least try to be helpful. >.> GKs normally run a small monster line-up. The general idea I believe is: 3 Spy 3 Commandant 3 Recruiter 3 Descendant 1-2 Assailant And if you have them, 2 or so Malefic Stardust. Anything else is really superfluous in standart keepers. What kind of variant are you going for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='Welche' timestamp='1325486129' post='5744051'] James, here on YCM we at least try to be helpful. >.> GKs normally run a small monster line-up. The general idea I believe is: 3 Spy 3 Commandant 3 Recruiter 3 Descendant 1-2 Assailant And if you have them, 2 or so Malefic Stardust. Anything else is really superfluous in standart keepers. What kind of variant are you going for? [/quote] i wish I could get a Malefic Stardust. I used to run Malefic Blue Eyes but that just made necrovalley an even bigger target. Malefic Stardust would be perfect if i could get him. I run the gravekeepers "engine' With as many gravekeepers as i can to special summon or bring up other gravekeepers and necrovalley. Spy, Commandant, recruiter, Mystic Tomato, Sangan, rite of Spirit, Stele and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfopresident Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Ok this is a good build of GK you could try out on DN and see if you like it better than your build then make it. Monsters (14) 3 Gravekeepers Spy 3 Gravekeepers Comandant 3 Gravekeepers Descendant 3 Gravekeepers Recruiter 1 Gravekeepers Assailant 1 Gravekeepers Guard Spells (16) 3 Necrovally 2 Stelle 3 Pot of Duality 1 Allure of Darkness 1 Dark Hole 1 Smashing Ground 1 Book of Moon 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 2 Royal Tribute Traps (10) 3 Dimesional Prison 1 Solemn Judgment 2 Solemn Warning 1 Trap Dustshoot 2 Fiendish Chains 1 Torrential Tribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 [quote name='Ace_RKO_' timestamp='1325486321' post='5744057'] i wish I could get a Malefic Stardust. I used to run Malefic Blue Eyes but that just made necrovalley an even bigger target. Malefic Stardust would be perfect if i could get him. [/quote] Malefic Stardust can easily be obtained by getting a Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon tin or 2, plus you'll get Solemn Warnings in there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khen Villanos Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Malefic Stardust is great in GB deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 NEW EXTRA DECK 1 Number 39: Utopia 1 Number 10: Illumaknight 1 Wind-up Zenmaiaster 3 Number 17: Leviathan Dragon 2 Grenosaurus 1 Gachi Gachi Gantetsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 LOL did you actually call my deck "It doesnt really look good" and you post this piece of crap? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1326317890' post='5759788'] LOL did you actually call my deck "It doesnt really look good" and you post this piece of crap? LOL [/quote] This deck is great. It can easily beat almost any other archetype on a regular basis. I run it all the time with great success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 except its not why are you running loads of random monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1326319108' post='5759827'] except its not why are you running loads of random monsters? [/quote] It's mostly gravekeepers but Pitch Black Ware wolf is a dark attribute that prevents trap cards from being activated during the battle phase. Sangan is sangan (obviously) and battle fader saves you if you have no monsters on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='Ace_RKO_' timestamp='1326319670' post='5759879'] battle fader saves you if you have no monsters on the field. [/quote] The point of GKs is to maintain field presence .__. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 [quote name='Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi' timestamp='1326319941' post='5759902'] The point of GKs is to maintain field presence .__. [/quote] Of course, but i you get unexpectedly mirrored for you get bottomlessed on your first turn (happened to me before) or if something goes wrong battle fader is something that you'll wish you had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Even if you defended yourself with Battle Fader, how exactly are you going to make a comeback? GK require some turns in order to maintain field presence, Battle Fader's timing to use it to defense yourself is most likely when your opponent manages to overcome your field to begin with and GK aren't exactly an explosive deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Another problem is Battle Fader is near-useless in every other situation. They dont use Tribute fodder or a low S/T lineup (unlike, say, Monarchs), so Fader is a dead draw. Tragoedia would be a superior choice even if you have to take damage. Your Deck organization bugs me. Ignoring the fact that Monsters should usually be at the top, you put Spells and Traps in the same group, rather than separate them. It'd be mildly less annoying if you didn't have Traps listed within the Spells, so that it's unclear at a glance how many of each type you have. Also, quite a few of your monsters are extremely odd, like Man-Eater Bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Master Hyperion' timestamp='1326355404' post='5760841'] Even if you defended yourself with Battle Fader, how exactly are you going to make a comeback? GK require some turns in order to maintain field presence, Battle Fader's timing to use it to defense yourself is most likely when your opponent manages to overcome your field to begin with and GK aren't exactly an explosive deck. [/quote] Battle fader can be tributed for chief which can bring back any gravekeeper in your graveyard. It's hard to slow the field presence of gravekeepers but if they manage it with a few good plays battle fader can stall long enough to get you back on your feet. It has saved me multiple times dueling lightsworns and dark worlds.[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1326393547' post='5761154'] Another problem is Battle Fader is near-useless in every other situation. They dont use Tribute fodder or a low S/T lineup (unlike, say, Monarchs), so Fader is a dead draw. Tragoedia would be a superior choice even if you have to take damage. Your Deck organization bugs me. Ignoring the fact that Monsters should usually be at the top, you put Spells and Traps in the same group, rather than separate them. It'd be mildly less annoying if you didn't have Traps listed within the Spells, so that it's unclear at a glance how many of each type you have. Also, quite a few of your monsters are extremely odd, like Man-Eater Bug. [/quote] Man eater bug is in there as a holding sport for the recruiter I ave to orer online. Just to keep the number whwere I want it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Helps if you sort your spells from traps And get more money to be decent And you run trap hole over bottomless. How can this even be called better than anything that's not sh*tf***asswipeturbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1326412174' post='5761672'] Helps if you sort your spells from traps And get more money to be decent And you run trap hole over bottomless. How can this even be called better than anything that's not sh*tf***asswipeturbo [/quote] I have to get some cash or good trades to run bottomless. The deck runs absolutely great. I haven;t found a deck yet that it can't stand up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Ace_RKO_' timestamp='1326412327' post='5761680'] I have to get some cash or good trades to run bottomless. The deck runs absolutely great. I haven;t found a deck yet that it can't stand up to. [/quote] duel me on dn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1326412565' post='5761692'] duel me on dn [/quote] Sure, I gotta flash update first tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 -2 Rite of Spirit -2 Shadow Spell -1 Trap Hole -1 Dark Illusion -1 Compulsory Mirror Force is nice, but I didn't need it. -1 Defense Draw -3 GK Guard -1 Snowman Eater -1 Sangan -2 Battle Fader -1 Mystic Tomato -1 Man-Eater Bug -2 GK Visionary -2 Pitch Black Warwolf +1 Gale (Blackwing) +1 GK Assailant +1 GK Recuiter +2 Malefic Stardust +3 Pot of Duality +2 Wonder Wand +2 Bottomless Trap Hole +1 Dimensional Prison (I prefer Prison instead of M. Force simply because it banishes the monster, making it harder to bring it back) +1 Solemn Judgment +2 Solemn Warning +1 Starlight Road +1 Torrential Tribute +1 Trap Dustshoot This is according to someone else's decklist. And believe me, it's a lot better than what you have here. After you make the changes (assuming you do), this is what the Extra should look like Catastor Black Rose Blackwing Armor Master (assuming you put Gale in) Brionac Stardust Dragon x3 Trishula Daigusto Emeral Lavalval Chain Utopia To the person who knows this is his decklist, sorry for stealing your list, but this guy REALLY needed help. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_RKO_ Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1326479450' post='5762622'] -2 Rite of Spirit -2 Shadow Spell -1 Trap Hole -1 Dark Illusion -1 Compulsory Mirror Force is nice, but I didn't need it. -1 Defense Draw -3 GK Guard -1 Snowman Eater -1 Sangan -2 Battle Fader -1 Mystic Tomato -1 Man-Eater Bug -2 GK Visionary -2 Pitch Black Warwolf +1 Gale (Blackwing) +1 GK Assailant +1 GK Recuiter +2 Malefic Stardust +3 Pot of Duality +2 Wonder Wand +2 Bottomless Trap Hole +1 Dimensional Prison (I prefer Prison instead of M. Force simply because it banishes the monster, making it harder to bring it back) +1 Solemn Judgment +2 Solemn Warning +1 Starlight Road +1 Torrential Tribute +1 Trap Dustshoot This is according to someone else's decklist. And believe me, it's a lot better than what you have here. After you make the changes (assuming you do), this is what the Extra should look like Catastor Black Rose Blackwing Armor Master (assuming you put Gale in) Brionac Stardust Dragon x3 Trishula Daigusto Emeral Lavalval Chain Utopia To the person who knows this is his decklist, sorry for stealing your list, but this guy REALLY needed help. -.- [/quote] Hate to put down you hard work but there is no way I am running my grakekeepers as a synchro deck. It's simply not designed for that type of meta game play style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 [quote name='Ace_RKO_' timestamp='1326490050' post='5762763'] Hate to put down you hard work but there is no way I am running my grakekeepers as a synchro deck. It's simply not designed for that type of meta game play style. [/quote] >Synchro GK >1 Tuner >Meta Your whole post makes no sense You should have the Extra stocked just in case. You know, reborn exists? Not filling it up is rather stupid. Next, Gravekeeper's aren't Synchro-centric, even with a stuffed extra. They're control, and their tribute monsters are terrible as is the horde of random crap you don't need like Dark Illusion, Tomatoes, etc. He gave you changes to make it better. This isn't a showcase section, this is a "Help me get better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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