Zacktheflash96 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 [img]http://yugico.com/customcard/111818.jpg[/img] I want reviews and decent ones! if thats not too much to ask on a bloody forum for reviewing created cards xD This is meant to be Hieratic and dragon support in general. Mostly since they are pretty much dying atm i am a total dragon lover but atm im not so much of a dragon user which sucks because dragon could become epic again but konami just needs to make them BALANCED! sometimes Konami....sometimes i want to kill you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 please post lore this card is OP'ed (or close to it) but soon as it atk xyz material drops use it for hieratic summon or redmd as it is a redmd in xyz with 3 shots at the effect and chaos hieratic redmd dragon deck will flood again btw send 1 monster from your hand or field to the graveyard only cuz tribute will invite hieratic to abuse it so wretchely it should be lv or rank 6 or higher lv dragon-type monster instead of any old monster help restrict the effect but still playable for what you want it to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacktheflash96 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 i didnt think i'd really need to post the lore its pretty visible? and thats fair enough i know its pretty broke its just meant to be a start point xD ive changed it to level 6 or higher dragons now. Hieratic wouldnt be able to abuse this as much as you think either. most of the time you use up alot of your hand setting up a field for just Atum and if your lucky you could get another one out but its definitely on the level that it was and needs some more damn combos because everybody knows now "wait for atum then bottomless/solemn" hopefully this would get you another xyz monster but im not sure you'd get it on the same turn tbh. Thanks for your review Anyone other comments or feedback would be great thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 [quote name='immortalisaac2' timestamp='1347768207' post='6025976'] i didnt think i'd really need to post the lore its pretty visible? and thats fair enough i know its pretty broke its just meant to be a start point xD ive changed it to level 6 or higher dragons now. Hieratic wouldnt be able to abuse this as much as you think either. most of the time you use up alot of your hand setting up a field for just Atum and if your lucky you could get another one out but its definitely on the level that it was and needs some more damn combos because everybody knows now "wait for atum then bottomless/solemn" hopefully this would get you another xyz monster but im not sure you'd get it on the same turn tbh. Thanks for your review Anyone other comments or feedback would be great thanks [/quote] [color=#FF0000]gotta post lore ...... but do what you feel is right it's not like i can force you[/color] [color=#FF0000]people can help with the ocg or the effect[/color] [color=#4B0082]tribute hieratic can ss normal dragons when tribute so that part is bad[/color] [color=#00FF00]soul release or any other way to banish the proper target for this card effect but thats fine as you need to keep banishing certian monsters for it and the cards to banish can add to your deck which take up space[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 It just seems a big commitment to make, even in Heiratics 3 level 6s is not exactly easy and I just feel that a good part of the time people will much rather make Bounzer or Messier 7 or Exa-Beetle, so maybe you need to improve the effect a bit. Certainly I feel it should get more ATK, something like 1000 per material as that rewards people a bit more for committing to it. Good card overall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacktheflash96 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 it was originally 1000 ATK but it felt a bit like overkill to give it 4000 and with the effect tbh ill change it and see what kind of reception that boost gets for those that didnt see the card before it was 700 ATK per material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay let's go for the REAL criticism from the REAL know-it-all guy. a.k.a. me. First things first, I would like to tell you guys that I’m honestly considering the option of writing a guide to making decent support cards, because this section needs it. Desperately, too. Most of the cards I’ve been reviewing so far have the exact same problem: Being a bad support card. Including this one. See, most duelists – or rather, idiots-who-waste-hundreds-of-dollars-on-cardboard, you choose how to look at it – have a deck or concept they love, and that’s why most of us love making support cards for them. You did make this a Hieratic support card, certainly, but the problem here is that it doesn’t really…support Hieratics. [i]How the hell’s that possible? “A Hieratic support card that doesn’t support Hieratics”? Jeez, this guy’s making no sense. Let’s ignore this slab of text[/i] – that’s prolly what you’re thinking right now, but tsk-tsk-tsk, thing is, it’s very much possible. In fact, most are so. There are several types of “support cards”. One type is the Deck Cores - uber-broken cards that support a terribly weak deck (W Nebula Meteor, Codarus etc.) In this case, the deck is usually totally dependent on that one card. Another type is the Sidekicks – supporting a deck that can live without it, but is run because it protects it from a weakness or strengthens the concept (Earthbound Whilwind, etc.). These two are the ones I expect you to make (some people hate type 1, but I think they’re actually the most well-designed ones. Depends on person and perspective, really). Now, this belongs in the Toilet Paper type, which is basically the worst type of support card. This type is basically those that are never used because they either don’t fit with the concept of what they support or aren’t good enough to be run (Black Thunder, etc.) If a support card isn’t ran, that means it can be ran in nothing. Thus why I call it toilet paper. The reason why I say this is so bad-designed is because its effect doesn’t fit with the concept of Hieratics. For one, if you have 3 Level 6 Monsters out in the deck, you would usually go for Atums/Ptolemys M7/Bounzer/whatever. Never this. Why? Let’s look at its effects, which by the way you should definitely post from next time because I and a lot of other people prefer to review it like this: This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type Monster. [b]Um, so what? Yeah, random effects. New card makers like random effects, but what does this do? How does this effect support Hieratics? Unless you can give a reason (which you can’t), cut it.[/b] This card gains 700 ATK for each Xyz Material attached to this card. [b]Which means this starts off at 3100. Interesting fact is that the only Rank 6 that can kill 3000+ stuff during the opp’s turn is Sword Breaker, which doesn’t always work. So you could say this isn’t totally a waste of an effect, but honestly – you could go for more given its summoning conditions. 4000 was better. Oh, and for that matter, don’t listen to Garthfunlke or Herman the German or whatever his name is, because he’s stupid. I mean stupid as in bannable-offense stupid. If I become mod (which a lot of guys want to happen), the first thing I’ll do is to ban him. He doesn’t deserve to post, really, given how stupid he is, so ignore him completely. Protip. [/b] Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card tribute 1 monsters from your hand or your side of the field to special summon 1 of your level 6 or higher dragon-type monsters in face-up attack position. [b]The OCG (Official Card Grammar) is a bit off here, but I don’t really care. This effect isn’t totally unusable, given it CAN be a game-finisher if it goes off right, but nyeh – I doubt it’s worth the summoning conditions. Thing is, normal Hieratics don’t Banish cards often. The only reason I can think up is for summoning REDMD, but REDMD is a win condition on its own. If they DO get something Banished, chances are that’s the Watt-meter or Luster #2 or whatever that got caught in Chain Disappearance, much to your RAEG. And if you get that Banished, chances you can get this out while also maintaining an extra Hieratic in your hand or on your field are near zero. More like, if you can achieve that, you’d better go for other options. The only way this could be used is in Chaos Hieratics, but at least from personal experience, they’re crap this format. And this wouldn’t save them, really.[/b] tl;dr this wouldn’t be used even if printed. Then, should you make another card to support Hieratics? This time, something that is powerful. How about a Solemn Judgment just for them, like Infernity Barrier? Or an alternative to REDMD that can only SS Hieratics? Or- …Except, that’s not a good idea. Why? Because Hieratics are already top-tier material in both the OCG and TCG, and it’s safe to say they don’t really NEED support. Making any more would break them. Sorry, but that’s the thing. If you love Hieratics so much you still want to make support for them, I suggest you make something that fixes their weakness against Macro and other stuff that Banish. But I wouldn’t. Hope I helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1347873208' post='6026558'] [b]Garthfunlke or Herman the German or whatever his name is, because he’s stupid. I mean stupid as in bannable-offense stupid. If I become mod (which a lot of guys want to happen), the first thing I’ll do is to ban him. He doesn’t deserve to post, really, given how stupid he is, so ignore him completely. Protip.[/b] [/quote] troll getting sick of that from you we both agree the card needs adjusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347879268' post='6026568'] troll getting sick of that from you we both agree the card needs adjusting [/quote] You: Card needs adjusting Me: Card shouldn't be made at all YO READIN' SKILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1347885366' post='6026577'] You: Card needs adjusting Me: Card shouldn't be made at all YO READIN' SKILLS [/quote] if he alter the effect it would be fine you are being harsh torwards him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347905825' post='6026709'] if he alter the effect it would be fine you are being harsh torwards him [/quote] ITT: You know more about the game than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Them: We can argue with Darkplant if we come up with a different argument. Me: You should never argue against Darkplant. ...gettin warned for this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347879268' post='6026568'] troll getting sick of that from you [/quote] Nice mentality you have there; if any person shows the slightest dislike towards you, they're trolls. [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1347916808' post='6026849'] ...gettin warned for this one... [/quote] Totally worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 [quote name='immortalisaac2' timestamp='1347742517' post='6025762'] [img]http://yugico.com/customcard/111818.jpg[/img] [/quote] I would like the lore really. Just because I can read it doesn't make it any less painful...(still waiting for those new glasses <n<) 1.) Requirements: 3 Level 6 Dragon-Type monsters. Obviously using Pulsar Dragon or Dragon.Normalmonster.com x 3 for this card is an ubber waste of time. I'd rather go for a Bounzer or Exa Bettle instead and even then I'm not really into that idea. Hieratics can moderately pull of 3 Normals...but it's obviously not going into this guy when they have Atums. 2.) Effects: Treated as a Warrior-type monster. Completely useless/random? Gains 700 ATK/DEF for each Xyz Material attached to it. Moderately useful...for a rank 6? Meh. It's arguable but I'm the one that says it's a crap of an ATK/DEF boost. Once per turn: Detach 1 Xyz, Tribute 1 monster (hand/field); Special Summon 1 Banished Level 6 or higher Dragon-type monster. Broken? Hello! Redrum was limited for a reason! Now even if we get rid of him, we can see him again! NO we don't want that! (Sry Agro...BUT NO REDRUM FOR U!) Suggestions: [list] [*]Make the requirements for it's summon less degrading like: "2 Level 6 Dragon-type monsters". 2 is a nice number for Xyzs. [*]Remove that "This card is also treated as Warrior-type monster." clause because it's not helping it at all nor is it needed. [*]Rewire that last effect because it's horrendously OPed. Granted it's not a sexy card summon right now, but with 2 Xyz Materials, it can make pulsars into juggling pins from Grave, to banish zone to field and back, except you can toss in Hieratics, and RedRum in there as well (inb4DOABARRELROLL!) [/list] OoT - Darkplant....I want you to review this: [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/289664-chances-doubles-gladiator-beasts-prodegius-and-promastus/"]http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/289664-chances-doubles-gladiator-beasts-prodegius-and-promastus/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm not going to warn you because none of you seem to have broken any rules, although I would advise you to keep on topic and discuss the card. Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacktheflash96 Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I wrote a big paragraph i guess it didnt post lol..anyway swiftly moving on Darkplant.... alot of what you said is sort of irrelevant and just bringing your weird beef with garfunkle here im not sure who really wants to make you an admin cause you seem like a bit of a dick (just an opinion based on what ive seen) but w/e xD some of what you said i have an answer to. regarding the 700 ATK i did up it to 1000 again i just guess the image here didnt change aswell like it should do the "pointless" warrior bit. Thats just for flavour tbh its a warrior with his friend whos a dragon so why the hell not xD the card itself. When i was talking about the whole hieratic and dragon thing i was being lighthearted (a little hard to convey through writing but hey) so please dont take that ridiculously seriously its a bit of a "hey why not" card. Thanks for the reviews those who gave them and thankyou to chance furlong for being a bit more concise and to the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 But the internet is basically about bringing out your oversized ego, killing off the idiots, and making yourself seem like a gigantic Raging Earth. Besides, yeah, it's true that I like going all irrelevant, but the backbone of my argument is logically correct. Well, I'm not as bad as I might seem from this thread. I'm nice to most people, you know. If I was a really terrible person I wouldn't give you advice; I'd just say "this is s***" and end it. If you trace through my argument you'll see exactly what I felt was wrong and what I felt was right. Being harsh is just to make people look cooler in this society of words and avatars. If we looked harsh, no we aren't. We just hate Herman, and we want to help [i]you[/i], so as long as you stay here you'll get fine. Same goes for all the guys here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacktheflash96 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 fair enough bwahhaha 3rd line made me chuckle i didnt know there was some next beef with herman but why? xD respect to you for sticking to your guns ive read it more thoroughly now anyway and it actually feels great to get a big review on not such a great card that was made for jokes xDDD thanks anyway bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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