swag swag swag swag swag s Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Skip the Draw Phase of your opponent's next turn. Discuss. Should it really be banned? inb4 ur an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Tsuskuyomi's return to YGO makes the Time Seal lock possible once again if this were to come back. Tsuku or not though, this is a +0 that could be chained to MST or something to become a +1, like how Trap Dustshoot was (although people liked to get Dustshoot played ASAP). Even if Tsuku went back to YGO's Forbidden List for whatever reason, this is still a bad card to bring back into the game. The Drop Off cards can't be chained to MST or Heavy Storm for the extra +1, and therefore, are more alright than this. They also put the card in the Graveyard, which some of your opponent's cards like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Its issue is that it has no cost and no condition. That makes it a too dangerous. Your'e rewarded just for setting it and your opponent not End Phase MSTing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Its issue is that it has no cost and no condition. That makes it a too dangerous. Your'e rewarded just for setting it and your opponent not End Phase MSTing it. It's also a card that causes a stop in gamestate rather than a change in it, which is never very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Discuss. Should it really be banned? ffs, yes. theres nothing more to discuss here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Sangan's banned. Let's bring back Yata-Garasu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Discuss. Should it really be banned? GUYSGUYSGUYS I GOT DIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 GUYSGUYSGUYS I GOT DISThis is the kind of crap I'm tired of seeing in TCG, no god damn rules about posting about the actually card.Accorrding to Draw Phase rules, this card cannot be activated until after the opponent draws, while this card is still broke, you won't be able to sit with this, set it and make you second to last move as your opponent will be able to do nothing because they can't draw, but they will the next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 This is the kind of crap I'm tired of seeing in TCG, no god damn rules about posting about the actually card. Accorrding to Draw Phase rules, this card cannot be activated until after the opponent draws, while this card is still broke, you won't be able to sit with this, set it and make you second to last move as your opponent will be able to do nothing because they can't draw, but they will the next turn. 1. Activate Time Seal during your opponent's turn 2. Flip Summon Mask of Darkness during your turn, add back time seal, set it 3. Normal Summon Tsukuyomi, flip Mask of Darkness into face-down Defense 4. Your opponent skips their next draw phase 5. Back to square 1 Oh, and she WAS discussing the actual card. She was saying that the very idea of it coming back made her want to shoot herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 1. Activate Time Seal during your opponent's turn2. Flip Summon Mask of Darkness during your turn, add back time seal, set it3. Normal Summon Tsukuyomi, flip Mask of Darkness into face-down Defense4. Your opponent skips their next draw phase5. Back to square 1 Oh, and she WAS discussing the actual card. She was saying that the very idea of it coming back made her want to shoot herself.That is a nice strategy, yes, but I don't know why you're replying to me about it.Also, you're using discussing as if it was a whole other word, putting a joke picture up really does not form any sort of discussing (except this, which is getting off topic, so let's just leave it at this shall we) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 The main issue with this over Drastic Drop Off or something is that this is chainable and will give a +1 if it's destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 That is a nice strategy, yes, but I don't know why you're replying to me about it. Also, you're using discussing as if it was a whole other word, putting a joke picture up really does not form any sort of discussing (except this, which is getting off topic, so let's just leave it at this shall we) Fine, let me say this. It's broken, it's a stupid card. There is NOTHING to discuss because in an ideal game, it wouldn't come back. But you know what? Konami might bring it back anyway. Why? Cause the game is fucking broke at this point. Missing one draw doesn't matter anymore unless you're losing. Mermails abuse the hell out of their deck, E-Dragons don't lose hand advantage, Spellbooks +6, Evilswarm and Constellar play control games so they might like this, but you know what? This isn't near as bad as it used to be. In an ideal game, yeah this would stay banned. But this is Yugioh, it is nowhere near ideal. So little Zubat, what did we learn? There is nothing to discuss unless you want to talk about how bad the game is now. In which case, feel free to make a new topic, cause this goes far beyond Time Seal. God, you're almost as annoying the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'd rather have Yata-Garasu back than this. Way too generic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 My feelings are that this coming back would not make any relevant impact on the meta whatsoever. My feelings are also that this has no reason to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 This is the kind of crap I'm tired of seeing in TCG, no god damn rules about posting about the actually card. Unspoken rule of TCG #1: It is useless to complain about TCG. OT: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a card like this for every Phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Fine, let me say this. It's broken, it's a stupid card. There is NOTHING to discuss because in an ideal game, it wouldn't come back. But you know what? Konami might bring it back anyway. Why? Cause the game is fucking broke at this point. Missing one draw doesn't matter anymore unless you're losing. Mermails abuse the hell out of their deck, E-Dragons don't lose hand advantage, Spellbooks +6, Evilswarm and Constellar play control games so they might like this, but you know what? This isn't near as bad as it used to be. In an ideal game, yeah this would stay banned. But this is Yugioh, it is nowhere near ideal. So little Zubat, what did we learn? There is nothing to discuss unless you want to talk about how bad the game is now. In which case, feel free to make a new topic, cause this goes far beyond Time Seal. God, you're almost as annoying the real thing. There's plenty to discuss, posting a picture is not disgussing anything, all it is is spam, but just fuck it the mods don't care. Here's a picture of pikachu on a surfboard for no real reason: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 There's plenty to discuss, posting a picture is not disgussing anything, all it is is spam, but just fuck it the mods don't care. Here's a picture of pikachu on a surfboard for no real reason: And this is why I don't like you. You're stupid, pointless and not helpful to the site one bit. You think you're clever when you aren't, you think you're witty. But you're stupid. There is nothing to discuss about Time Seal. I summed up the card in my post. Miror summed up the card in his. Agro pointed out that it's stupid. Lapris pointed out why it's a problem when Drastic Drop-Off / Drop-off isn't a problem. Hell, Hootcake said that Yata was less broken then this (Which I'm not sure I agree with this format but whatever). There is NOTHING to discuss about this card. It's badly designed and should stay banned, but probably won't. Oh and btw, my picture was relevant. This card often makes people want to shoot themselves, especially when bad players defend it. A broken surfing pikachu picture is a horrible example. <3 @LZ: I know there's one for the Draw, Standby, Battle, Main 2. Not sure about Main Phase 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 And this is why I don't like you. You're stupid, pointless and not helpful to the site one bit. You think you're clever when you aren't, you think you're witty. But you're stupid. There is nothing to discuss about Time Seal. I summed up the card in my post. Miror summed up the card in his. Agro pointed out that it's stupid. Lapris pointed out why it's a problem when Drastic Drop-Off / Drop-off isn't a problem. Hell, Hootcake said that Yata was less broken then this (Which I'm not sure I agree with this format but whatever). There is NOTHING to discuss about this card. It's badly designed and should stay banned, but probably won't. Oh and btw, my picture was relevant. This card often makes people want to shoot themselves, especially when bad players defend it. A broken surfing pikachu picture is a horrible example. <3 I'll just ignore that insult, and yet again state that this forum is awful, and I wonder why I'm still on here. Oh and it's relevant? Of course it's relevant, yes, makes perfect damn sense, too bad it adds nothing at all except a chuckle from someone without humor like yourself. My picture was an example of the uselessness of your first post, but you're clearly too lightheaded to comprehend that. I also love how you say there's nothing to disgus, yet there's plenty of it that you simply refuse to acknowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 So, a minimum +0 that is just going to make your opponent lose harder in a manner that kills the gamestate? TOTALLY FAIR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 @LZ: I know there's one for the Draw, Standby, Battle, Main 2. Not sure about Main Phase 1. I think this is the only card that skips Main Phase 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 @LZ: I know there's one for the Draw, Standby, Battle, Main 2. Not sure about Main Phase 1. there is a main phase 1 skipper: timeater. and its the only one too. thats something we could discuss maybe. but not this. and yes, as has already been stated repeatedly there is no worthwhile discussion to generate from this card because the design is atrocious and while i would like to say that the design aspect is a product from a former era, there are plenty of recent counterexamples to cite. so we cant even say something like "gee, im glad they dont make them like that anymore". so no, there is absolutely nothing to discuss on this matter that hasnt been said hundreds upon hundreds of times before, by both the people of this community and others. the line of people talking about this card stretches backwards ever on and on and unless some new development involving this card happens (which it wont) its much better to just think back on what has already been said rather than to rehash it like were all bill murray and this is groundhog day, except with a lot more pubescent ego and less kissing. or, in summation, if that was too long for you: shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'll just ignore that insult, and yet again state that this forum is awful, and I wonder why I'm still on here. Oh and it's relevant? Of course it's relevant, yes, makes perfect damn sense, too bad it adds nothing at all except a chuckle from someone without humor like yourself. My picture was an example of the uselessness of your first post, but you're clearly too lightheaded to comprehend that. I also love how you say there's nothing to disgus, yet there's plenty of it that you simply refuse to a acknowledge. Then kindly share with us your enlightened knowledge about Time Seal. Show the blind masses what there is to discuss about a card that should simply NOT EXIST. Share with us the wonderful loops it has so we can show the world! You aren't doing anything to help. You just like to pretend you're high and mighty while not providing anything to discuss. People already knew the Ruling you posted. People already know how the DRAW PHASE works. YOU added nothing to the topic either hon, so either follow your own advice or just leave YCM. It would be better without you. And please, don't ignore my insult, cause I'm not the only one who thinks that about you. And thanks for ignoring everything I've said in my previous posts, cause I summed up the card AND the format there, which is a lot more then you've done at all. <3 @claire and airride: How could I forget Timeater, he's such a cool card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'll just ignore that insult, and yet again state that this forum is awful, and I wonder why I'm still on here. I just wanted to point out that I read this and thought of Shard. <3 OT: Can't believe I blanked on Timeater too. The only think when I see this, is the "fun" of Dustshoot, but worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 I just wanted to point out that I read this and thought of Shard. <3 Just remember, you can take a break but you never leave. Ever. Anyway, onto the topic of Time Seal. I'm in a bit of a 50/50 state with this card. On the one hand, I think the card could come back, seeing as the only way the player will ever get a massive advantage out of this card is if the opponent is losing and/or low on resources, meaning they pretty much lose anyway, and the fact the card is terrible outside of this and locks. On the other hand, I look at it and think "Holy shit tempo control out the ass." and the fact every deck could or should be playing it if it came back. Overall, I haven't been able to form a actual opinion of this card as in, should it stay there, should it come back? But I'm leaning more towards test it out, if it proves greviously broken put it back to rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 *Takes a step* This is the kind of crap I'm tired of seeing in TCG, no god damn rules about posting about the actually card. Accorrding to Draw Phase rules, this card cannot be activated until after the opponent draws, while this card is still broke, you won't be able to sit with this, set it and make you second to last move as your opponent will be able to do nothing because they can't draw, but they will the next turn. FUCK *takes a step* That is a nice strategy, yes, but I don't know why you're replying to me about it. Also, you're using discussing as if it was a whole other word, putting a joke picture up really does not form any sort of discussing (except this, which is getting off topic, so let's just leave it at this shall we) FUCK *takes a step* There's plenty to discuss, posting a picture is not disgussing anything, all it is is spam, but just fuck it the mods don't care. Here's a picture of pikachu on a surfboard for no real reason: FUCK *takes a step* I'll just ignore that insult, and yet again state that this forum is awful, and I wonder why I'm still on here. Oh and it's relevant? Of course it's relevant, yes, makes perfect damn sense, too bad it adds nothing at all except a chuckle from someone without humor like yourself. My picture was an example of the uselessness of your first post, but you're clearly too lightheaded to comprehend that. I also love how you say there's nothing to disgus, yet there's plenty of it that you simply refuse to acknowledge. SCREW IT I'M DONE WITH THIS TOPIC *escape rope* /don'tknowifworthit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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