Character Deck "Format" [Passing this on, read recent discussion]

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

It's basically the same as regular format, using almost the same exact banlist, and other than that it has restrictions on deck building.

The Rules:
- Only two people can play as each character, one being the "alter ego".
- At least 15 of your cards must be cards your character has played, including copies, in their Main Deck from the official anime, manga, or movies. Some characters may require more.
- Mystical Space Typhoon and Dark Hole are excluded from counting as "character cards".
- Stick to your character's cards as the focus for the deck as much as possible. It is okay to have secondary engines, but the non-character cards in your deck should not operate exclusively without your Character cards. (Ex. You should not be running a Mermail deck with some of Shark's cards, or using a Laval deck with some of Jack's cards in it.)
- Allowed a Side Deck consisting of no more than 11 cards your Character doesn't use, in addition to any number of cards they do use, and you can never side out to have less Character cards in your deck than the minimum for your character.
- The Extra Deck may include only FOUR cards not in the character's Extra Deck unless otherwise stated, including copies. Of these 4, only 2 may be the same card. (IE, you can have 2 Maestroke, 1 Utopia, and 1 Gagaga Cowboy, but not 2 Maestroke and 2 Utopia or 3 Maestroke and 1 Utopia).

--- In addition to this rule, players will now be allowed to take one "freebie" card to add a single copy of to their Extra Deck from the list below that does not count for the Extra Deck limitations. Additional copies will count as non-character cards.
- You must use AT LEAST 2 Spells and 2 Traps your character used. IE, you cannot use 21 of their monsters and call it good. Certain characters do not apply.

- Both players may control a Field Spell Card at a time. (When the other player activates theirs, yours is not destroyed)

[spoiler="Freebie Extra Deck Cards"]

Number 63: Shamoji Soldier

Number 83: Galaxy Queen

Number 87: Queen of the Night

Number 34: Terror-Byte

Number 7: Lucky Straight

Number 56: Gold Rat

Baby Triagon

Mira the Star-Bearer

Shark Caesar

 

Any level 3 Fusion

 

Ally of Justice Field Marshal

Dragunity Knight - Trident

Driven Daredevil

Explosive Magician

Jurrac Giganoto

Laval the Greater

Lightning Unicorn

Naturia Leodrake

Seven Swords Warrior

Thunder Unicorn

Voltic Bicorn

X-Saber Wayne

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In addition to normal TCG rules, the following cards are banned from use:
Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning

Chain Material

"Dragon Ruler" cards

Elder God Noden

Elemental HERO The Shining

Evilswarm Exciton Knight
Exodia the Forbidden One

Honest

Lightpulsar Dragon

Machina Fortress
Number 11: Big Eye

Number 101: Silent Honors ARK

Number 62: Galaxy Eyes Prime Photon Dragon

Number 86: Heroic Champion - Rhongomiant

Shooting Quasar Dragon

Soul Charge

Theosophy of the Artifacts

 

The following cards are limited:

Elemental HERO Absolute Zero

Evolzar Laggia

Chaos Sorcerer

Divine Dragon Knight Felgrand

Gear Gigant X

Gozen Match

Rivalry of Warlords

Supply Unit

Infernity Mirage

Kaiser Colosseum

Lonefire Blossom
Power Bond

Royal Decree

The following characters are playable in Normal Tier. They are linked with the cards you can use for them

[spoiler="Normal Tier"]
Yugi Muto
Seto Kaiba (Need 18 Character cards)
Mai Valentine (May use one of each Harpie Lady #1/2/3 as Character cards. Only 3 Extra Deck cards not theirs)
Chazz Princeton (18 Character cards)
Syrus Truesdale (21 Character cards. Must use at least 5 roids total)
Atticus Rhodes (Can use Metalmorph as a character card)
Jack Atlas (18 Character cards, only 3 Extra Deck cards not his)
Velian Crowler (Only need 1 trap)
Sayer (Psychic Lifetrancer is a Character card)
Carly Carmine (Only need 1 trap)
Rua (21 Character cards. Only 3 Extra Deck cards not theirs)
Jesse Anderson (Need 18 Character cards. Crystal Raigeki counts as a character card)
Tyranno Hassleberry
Aporia (Just Aporia's deck. Need 21 Character cards)
Dextra (Only 3 Extra Deck cards not theirs)
Aster Phoenix (Need 21 Character cards)
Adrian Gecko
Quattro (21 Character cards. Only 3 Extra Deck cards not theirs)
Kaze
Dragan
Reginald Van Howell
Misty Tredwell (Do not need traps)
Vector (Includes Dr. Faker's cards)
Professor Viper
Greiger (May use 5 Extra Deck cards not theirs until DSF unbanned)

Mizar (Sargasso the D.D. Battlefield is a character card)

Sherry LeBlanc (Only need 1 spell)

Rex Goodwin (Do not need spells. Supay is a character card)

Jinlong

Dumon (Star Seraph Scepter/Sargasso the D.D. Battlefield are character cards. Do not need traps)

Professor Viper

Bastion Misawa

Mr. Armstrong (Chain Disappearance/Chain Destruction are character cards)

Tetsu Trudge (Do not need Spells. Gaia Knight the Force of Earth is a character card)

Maximillion Pegasus (Only need 1 trap)

Tetsuo (Do not need traps)

Koyo Hibiki

Anna Kozuki (Need 18 character cards. Do not need traps)

Quinton (Do not need Trap Cards/Marshalling Field is a character card)

Axel Brodie (Volcanic Recharge is a character card)

Girag (Includes Raccoon deck. Do not need traps)

Rio Kastle

Rafael (May use Soul Charge. Do not need traps)

Strong Ishijima

--Weaker characters below--

Joey Wheeler

Bakura
Marik
Alexis Rhodes

Ishizu (Only need 1 trap)
Ruka (Does not include Rua's deck, Ancient Pixie Dragon is a character card)

Abidos
Belowski
Chumley (Only need 1 trap)
Kagemaru
Chancellor Sheppard
Trueman (Dark Archetype deck only)
Leichter
Sartorius

Noah Kaiba (Only need 1 trap)

Mr. Kay
Roman Goodwin (may use 1 Insect-type tuner as a character card)
Andre (Do not need spells)

Makoto
Devack
Titan (Savage Colosseum is a character card)
Rafael (Do not need traps)

Jean (Do not need spells)

Professor Banner

Tania

Admiral (Do not need traps)

Slade Princeton

T-Bone

Tsutomu

Rebecca Hawkins

Gurimo

Rick (Do no need traps, cannot use Exodia)

Duel Bot

Lazar

Fuya (Do not need traps)[/spoiler]

[spoiler="Lower-Tier Characters"]
Joey Wheeler
Rex Raptor (Bracchio-Radius is a character card. Only need 1 trap)
Weevil Underwood (Insect Princess is a character card)
Tea Gardner
Bakura
Marik
Professor Viper (Need 18 Character cards)
Greiger (Need 18 Character cards)
Bastion Misawa
Alexis Rhodes
Bandit Keith (Metalmorph and Gatling Dragon are character cards)
Ishizu (Only need 1 trap)
Ruka (Does not include Rua's deck, Ancient Pixie Dragon is a character card)
Bonz (Pumprincess is a Character card)
Para + Dox
Abidos
Belowski
Chumley (Only need 1 trap)
Kagemaru
Chancellor Sheppard
Trueman (Dark Archetype deck only)
Nezbit (Gradius and Machine King Prototype are Character cards)
Leichter
Duke Devlin (Dice-nied is a character card)
Sartorius
Mr. Armstrong (Chain Disappearance is a character cards)
Tetsu Trudge (Do not need Spells. Gaia Knight the Force of Earth is a character card)
Maximillion Pegasus (Only need 1 trap)
Noah Kaiba (Only need 1 trap)
Brier (Includes ante cards)
Tetsuo (Do not need traps)
Mr. Kay
Roman Goodwin (may use 1 Insect-type tuner as a character card)
Andre (Do not need spells)
Koyo Hibiki
Makoto
Devack
Titan (Savage Colosseum is a character card)
Rafael (Do not need traps)

Mako Tsunami

Jean (Do not need spells)

Professor Banner

Tania

Admiral (Do not need traps)

Slade Princeton

T-Bone

Tsutomu

Rebecca Hawkins

Gurimo

Rick (Do no need traps, cannot use Exodia)

Duel Bot

Lazar

Fuya (Do not need traps)

[/spoiler]

 

OP Tier Character Rules
All of the same rules except for the following:

-  Elemental HERO The Shining, Lightpulsar Dragon, and Archlord Kristya are Limited instead of Banned.

- Allowed FIVE Extra Deck cards in total not theirs, but no more than 2 of each monster. Some character vary.

- There is no restriction for side deck cards. However, you still cannot side to have less character cards in-deck than the minimum.

 

[spoiler="Playable Characters for OP Tier"]

Yuya Sakaki (Need 18 character cards)
Yusei Fudo (Needs 21 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards not theirs)
Paradox (Needs 18 Character cards)
Crow Hogan (Needs 21 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards not theirs)
Kyosuke Kiryu (Needs 21 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards not theirs)
Bruno (Needs 18 Character cards)
Tron (Needs 21 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards not theirs)
Shark (Needs 18 Character cards. Only 2 ED cards not theirs. Full Armored - Black Ray Lancer is a character card)
Kaito (Needs 21 Character cards)
Alito (Needs 21 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards not theirs)
Yuma (Needs 21 Character cards. Only 2 ED cards not theirs)
Trey (Needs 18 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards...)
Jaden Yuki (Needs 18 Character cards. Can use Honest)
Zane (Needs 18 Character cards. Only 3 ED cards...)
Yugi Muto (May use Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning)
Seto Kaiba
Mai Valentine (May use Harpie Lady #1, 2, or 3 as Character cards)
Chazz Princeton
Syrus Truesdale (Must use at least 5 Roids total)
Atticus Rhodes (Can use Metalmorph as a character card)
Jack Atlas
Velian Crowler (Only need 1 trap. May use 2 Power Bond)
Akiza Izinski (Need 18 character cards)
Sayer (Psychic Lifetrancer and Psychic Nightmare are Character cards)
Carly Carmine (Only need 1 trap)
Rua
Jesse Anderson (Crystal Raigeki and Crystal Blessings count as character cards)
Tyranno Hassleberry
Gauche (Need 18 character cards)
Aporia (Just Aporia's deck)
Dextra (Only need 1 trap)
Aster Phoenix
Adrian Gecko
Quattro
Reggie MacKenzie
Kaze
Dragan
Vector (Includes Dr. Faker's cards)

Mizar (Sargasso the D.D. Battlefield is a character card)

Sherry LeBlanc (Only need 1 spell)

Rex Goodwin (Do not need spells. Supay is a character card)

Jinlong

Dumon (Do not need traps)

Thunder Spark (Does not need traps)

Quinton (Do not need traps)

Axel Brodie (Volcanic Recharge is a character card)

Girag (Includes Raccoon deck. Do not need traps)

Rio Kastle

Bastion Misawa

Anna Kozuki (Only need 1 trap)

Strong Ishijima

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Newly suggested characters/to be placed:

-N/A-

 

Past Winners
Rua
Tron
Zane
Yugi

Rio

 

Bad character
Aster

 

OP Tier

Kaito

[Sleepy]

I like the idea for a tournament. Character-based strategies, with some level of freedom.

The most iffy thing is that it depends on a case-by-case basis in all decks to judge, so it sounds like a pain to keep in check. Though that's understandable.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I like the idea for a tournament. Character-based strategies, with some level of freedom.

The most iffy thing is that it depends on a case-by-case basis in all decks to judge, so it sounds like a pain to keep in check. Though that's understandable.

Yeah, that's the main problem. There's never going to be a true balance between characters since they all have specific cards they can use, but I'm trying my best to keep the really overpowering decks out of the loop.

[NoshpalStefan]

I rather like this idea. Always wanted to copy and play Yugi's deck so why not. If there's ever a DN tournament in the plans with this idea, freely count me in.

[Wildflame]

I rather like this idea. Always wanted to copy and play Yugi's deck so why not. If there's ever a DN tournament in the plans with this idea, freely count me in.

 

Welp: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/299753-character-deck-tournament-iii-accepting-1112/

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

So, it's brought to my attention after I start things that I wasn't entirely thinking things out with Jaden. Not sure how else to balance it right now than making it so he can only use his own card for the Extra Deck. Also, I'm considering adding a limit of a maximum of either 3 or 5 Elemental Dragons for a deck.

[Zextra]

So, it's brought to my attention after I start things that I wasn't entirely thinking things out with Jaden. Not sure how else to balance it right now than making it so he can only use his own card for the Extra Deck. Also, I'm considering adding a limit of a maximum of either 3 or 5 Elemental Dragons for a deck.

Just ban the omni-heroes. If you do that, then the deck would work fine.

[Love of Ghibli]

Crow, Kiryu, and probably Rua (I fear morphotronic beatdown) seem like they would overpower people in this tourney

 

Also you could do Gauche and Droite you would just lighten the burden on the amount of cards from the characters they are forced to use. I mean you could also have the chronomally kid, the hunder user from the manga

In short after a while it becomes which characters have enough archetype support to have a balanced and decent deck.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Just ban the omni-heroes. If you do that, then the deck would work fine.

It becomes extremely difficult to use at that point. I think a better solution, if it came down to that, would be to make them not count as Character cards, so they would be able to play a maximum of three of them, and if they did, they wouldn't have anything else.

 

 

Crow, Kiryu, and probably Rua (I fear morphotronic beatdown) seem like they would overpower people in this tourney

 

Also you could do Gauche and Droite you would just lighten the burden on the amount of cards from the characters they are forced to use. I mean you could also have the chronomally kid, the hunder user from the manga

In short after a while it becomes which characters have enough archetype support to have a balanced and decent deck.

I forgot to add Crow and Kiryu to the ban list, though I wouldn't have allowed anyone to play as them anyways. I was looking at Droite while I was writing up considered characters, but she really doesn't have enough cards for a deck, and I'm not going to start adding characters with restrictions as silly as 10 or 12 cards. Chronomolies also have a lot of OTK potential. Thunder Spark also doesn't have enough cards.

[Love of Ghibli]

hmmm Aster Phoenix could be a nice addition 

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Perhaps.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

One solution I may have come up with is banning Shining from the tournament. I think the other omni-heroes are decent, but Shining is what makes it a meta deck.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

After much consideration, complaints, and personal experience with the cards, I am banning the Elemental Dragons from the tournament.

 

Other than banning The Shining, what changes would you think are necessary for Jaden? I feel like Mask Change with Acid + Absolute Zero is a bit of a BS combo, but by themselves the cards are just good, not amazing.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Now that the third tournament is finished, and I've gotten to see some decks in action, I am slightly worried about Tron, a little bit about Akiza, and unsure about Mai still (even though we didn't have one this time). I am also still trying to see what to do about Jaden. I think I will ban Ab0.

 

So basically, these are my thoughts from the previous tournament:

-Ban E-Dragons

-Ban E-Hero The Shining

-Ban E-Hero Absolute Zero

-Tron decks can only use 1 non-Character card

[Zextra]

Since I was the one running Aki's deck, I just thought that I should mention a couple of points that I noticed while playing the deck. 

First of all, against literally every deck I faced, the deck really struggles against raw strength, since the only monster I could rely on for countering that was Tytannial, and in all honesty, they got taken down far too easily.

On another note, enforcing the use of 21 character cards was dangerous towards designing the deck, since she uses far too many useless/situational cards that I was forced to include to meet the minimum requirements (such as Blossom Bombardment, Wall of Thorns, etc.) This was due to the fact that several of the key cards that the deck revolved around (Lonefire, Tytannial, Miracle Fertilizer) were cards that she did not use (not counting the video games). 

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Yeah, the main issue I found was that the cards that were actually played with her deck... weren't her cards. Which is never a good thing for a tournament like this. Even a deck like mine which had E-Dragons it was easy to tell that it revolved around Armed Dragons, which was something Chazz used.

 

Also, I plan on creating a list of every card usable for each character so people won't get confused anymore. It will be pretty hard for some characters.... so this might take some time.

[Zextra]

What I was sad about was that I was only able to go into Black Rose twice the whole tournament, despite running 3 Twilight Rose Knights and a multitude of her Level 4 Plants...

 

But yeah, though she does have a small number of cards which I found myself using often (such as Gigaplant, Fallen Angel of Roses, Mark of the Rose, Rosaria, Blue Rose, Lord Poison, etc.), the fact is that using those alone wouldn't get anywhere, which is why cards like Lonefire and Tytannial had to be essential to make the deck work (and that's exactly why her in-game decks were even the slightest bit effective :p).

 

But actually, in your case I would suggest creating a list of cards that they can't use rather than a list of cards that they can, since that would probably amount to a lot less work. And once again, thank god E-Dragons will be banned in the next tournament xD

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Uhh... if I made a list of cards that's not theirs it would include pretty much every card in the game. I already have a banned card list and listed cards people are not allowed to play in certain decks.

 

EDIT: Also, I added the rule about MR, Heavy, and Dark Hole.

[Zextra]

Oh, I misunderstood; my bad. I didn't know you were restricting their card pools to strictly cards that they had used. I thought you meant to make a list of cards that should not be used with each character due to either being an outcast to the rest of their deck or just for being too abusable or something along those lines.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I meant listing all the cards that are character cards for them.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Slowly getting the card pools updated. Let me know if you see any cards missing from them. I am considering adding special rules to certain characters, such as Joey being able to change a coin flip once per duel. Don't know if I would go through with that, though, or even if I would keep the characters who would need it.

 

EDIT: Well, forget that idea. I think I hit my link limit or something and then it deleted all of the stuff I had posted... Lots of wasted time, and plus now I don't know what else got deleted, including some characters.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

What would you guys think about a "lower tier" character tournament where you can only use the "bad" characters?

[Alpakha]

What would you guys think about a "lower tier" character tournament where you can only use the "bad" characters?

That sounds like a pretty bad idea to me. Bunch of people dueling bad deck... each duel would take forever. People probably won't join.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I've been editing some of the characters and such. Let me know if you guys see anything that should be changed.

[Alpakha]

Do Extra Deck cards count towards the 21 card limit for Tron.