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Hey guys! So this is my second(ish) archetype on this site and I decided to do something more ambtious than last time. I've put everything into spoilers including the introduction; so that the shameless self advertising you do is less in your face ;). The main theme is Arcane Circles enchanting normal people to give them Special Powers. Cool isn't it?

Introduction

 

The Abtruse Runes

The Support Cards

The Normal Guys


So what do you think? Any suggestions or comments upon balance. I have played some test games with my friend Ninesix1976, and it's fairly balanced. Storng but not invincible; playing at Lightsworn Level but still not enough to tackle Elemental Dragons. If there's enough request I'll cook up a playing guide as well.
 


Hey I'm tayfga15! The self proclaimed Normal Monster nutter. Check out some of my archetypes for proof! More will come in time.

Flame Swordsman Support: http://forum.yugiohc...rdsman-support/

Abtruse Runes: http://forum.yugiohc...-abtruse-runes/

Magical Bladesman: http://forum.yugiohc...n/#entry6303465


The guy in my profile picture is a real monster! I'm perfected his archetype now and he'll be out soon. (And he's a Normal Monster, duh)


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Rather than blindly bump the topic I've decided to post the deck I used when playing with my friend instead. (Although, reception IS nice)

 

Beatdown Style Arcane Deck

 

Normal Monsters (9)

3x Gemini Elf

1x Mystical Elf

3x Dark Magician

2x Cosmo Queen

 

Effect Monsters (8)

2x Sorcerer of Dark Magic

2x Runic Disciple
2x Summoner Monk

1x Runic Magician

1x Breaker the Magical Warrior

Archetype Spell Cards (20)

3x City of Runes
2x Abtruse Rune - Incantation

3x Abtruse Rune - Augury
3x Abtruse Rune - Bloodlust

2x Abtruse Rune - Rapcity
1x Abtruse Rune - Eradicate
3x Magicial Dimension

2x Terraforming

1x Dark Magic Attack

 

Trap Cards (3)
3x Royal Decree
 

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Is this the best deck? Well probably not; I've missed a couple of cool opportunities here like Magician's Circle. But it's a pretty good first attempt. Plus it's extremely unique which makes it Special.

If I can't get another poster to discuss with I'll talk about other possibilities for decks in the next post.


Hey I'm tayfga15! The self proclaimed Normal Monster nutter. Check out some of my archetypes for proof! More will come in time.

Flame Swordsman Support: http://forum.yugiohc...rdsman-support/

Abtruse Runes: http://forum.yugiohc...-abtruse-runes/

Magical Bladesman: http://forum.yugiohc...n/#entry6303465


The guy in my profile picture is a real monster! I'm perfected his archetype now and he'll be out soon. (And he's a Normal Monster, duh)


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This is definitely a very unique concept, and I think it can be powerful given the right circumstances. Personally, I would not use it because vanilla based decks are somewhat underwhelming and can leave you very stuck if you don't draw the correct cards, which in your case, seems to revolve around just 1.

 

The cards themselves have decent effects, but the entire basis of the decks relies too heavily on Incantation. Without Incantation, the deck is pretty much just Vanilla Spellcasters with Spell Support.

 

You definitely get a +1 for listing already existing support cards and showing how they can be useful. This deck is definitely strong in the right hands, but it also has it's faults.(but hey, what deck doesn't?)

 

Also, I don't think Spell Cards can be Tributed, so the effect should read something like "send 1 "Abstruse Rune" to the Graveyard"

 

1 more thing, I think the way you list the effects of the Spell cards (basic effect, then what would happen if triggered as a monster effect) has already been done in YGO by the Dark World monsters, so I think you can look to those if you want to brush up some of the "Official" grammar. (I feel like they already make enough sense though)



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@above I didn't compare to the Dark World, but the rest of the grammar I grabbed from everywhere else is correct. The tribute point is probably right so I'll fix up on that. Also relying in Incantation is sort of the point, but with 3 City of Runes and 2 Terraforming it's ridiculously easy to grab so it really isn't a problem.

 

Trust me, drawing the right cards is ridiculously easy. If you draw a terraforming or City of Runes (Which you can have up to 6 of 40 cards) your basically set for the whole game. Provided you simply run a whole lot of Runes you should be set. In fact little things such as adding a banish a spell card cost to Augury and changing Bloodlust to an 800ATK bonus (from the original 1000) were done to stop this deck being overpowered!

So yeah the only thing I'm going to change from your advice will be the tribute/sent to the graveyard thing. Thanks for pointing that out.


Hey I'm tayfga15! The self proclaimed Normal Monster nutter. Check out some of my archetypes for proof! More will come in time.

Flame Swordsman Support: http://forum.yugiohc...rdsman-support/

Abtruse Runes: http://forum.yugiohc...-abtruse-runes/

Magical Bladesman: http://forum.yugiohc...n/#entry6303465


The guy in my profile picture is a real monster! I'm perfected his archetype now and he'll be out soon. (And he's a Normal Monster, duh)


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On advice I've added Lore to all these cards so they're more easily read/analysed.


Hey I'm tayfga15! The self proclaimed Normal Monster nutter. Check out some of my archetypes for proof! More will come in time.

Flame Swordsman Support: http://forum.yugiohc...rdsman-support/

Abtruse Runes: http://forum.yugiohc...-abtruse-runes/

Magical Bladesman: http://forum.yugiohc...n/#entry6303465


The guy in my profile picture is a real monster! I'm perfected his archetype now and he'll be out soon. (And he's a Normal Monster, duh)


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I'd have to agree with hoom. The whole deck is centered around using normal monsters and giving them effects. The only way to do this is by the effect of Incanation. With out it, the whole deck is rendered pointless. And even with city of runes, once it's used, unless you have a tone of Magicians of Faith (or similar type cards), your going to be in trouble. How about a few support cards that can attach runes to monsters and or if city of runes could attach runes to monsters? Also, well done, I love the idea, truly, and this deck can be used in conjunction with any basic deck structure (warrior, aqua, ect.) but you have not given a purpose to it. Why not just use effect monsters? There needs to be some advantage.

Heres my idea (Just a thought): Why not implement a system that enables cards to switch the runes they have equipped. That way you'd have highly adaptable deck in which you can better prepare your monsters for any situation. 

Anyway I think you've done a great job and I can defiantly see Magic Bladesman becoming this decks deck master. 



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I'm not sure why everybody sees relying on Incantation as a problem though. City of Runes gets out Incantation first turn with literally no effort due to the fact that you can run three of them and three terraformings to get it out really quickly. With the posted deck I got out Incantation on 4/5 games; so easily that I'm only running two with no issues. While I can see that this deck may be in trouble without it, the vanilla effect of Augury helps get an easy supply of meatshields and a single bloodlust on somebody like Gemini Elf gives them 2700ATK. Because the deck has a draw enigne, an enemy banisher, a steriod boost AND two search engines the deck would be really overpowered even if it didn't rely on Incantation.

As for switching runes, you'll never really need to if you get a new monster every turn (Hey boosted Augury). I haven't run it myself but with a Safe Zone or a Gagaga Shield your boss summoner isn't going to die anytime soon; giving you a new person to Incantation on every turn. Incantation is the hit-man target, and must be destroyed by your opponent if he doesn't want to lose to a 3 turn beatdown. (Because seriously, that's the amount of time this usually takes to win)

I think the Underpowered claims arrise from me not really explaining one thing well. You can only use the Spell Effects Once per Turn, and only the monster effects once per turn. But if you use the spell effect, then use Incantation to give the effect to a monster, you can use the upgraded effect ON THE SAME TURN. So for Bloodlust you can use it's effect, Incantation it off, use it again and now you have 1600ATK points. This + Gemini Elf = 3500ATK points. So with only two, easily searchable, cards support Gemini Elf can defeat Red Dragon Archefiend. It's necessary to force Incantation protection so that your opponent can have the opportunity to instigate strategy as well. After all, a good archetype needs weaknesses. *Cough*Elemental Dragons OP*Cough*


Hey I'm tayfga15! The self proclaimed Normal Monster nutter. Check out some of my archetypes for proof! More will come in time.

Flame Swordsman Support: http://forum.yugiohc...rdsman-support/

Abtruse Runes: http://forum.yugiohc...-abtruse-runes/

Magical Bladesman: http://forum.yugiohc...n/#entry6303465


The guy in my profile picture is a real monster! I'm perfected his archetype now and he'll be out soon. (And he's a Normal Monster, duh)





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