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"Red-Eyes B. Dragon" + "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" + "Red-Eyes B. Dragon"
This card's Fusion Summon cannot be negated. When Fusion Summoned, cards and effects cannot be activated. Once per turn, during either players turn you can banish 1 Dragon-Type Monster in your graveyard to destroy 1 card on the field or inflict 1000 damage to your opponent.
 
 
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Uhh....

I'm in a difficult spot here.

 

........but Red-Eyes is so underwhelming to build around anyways, and let alone using 3 of it.

There's no real immediate way of abusing this. You Tour Guide into a Versago, you Prisma a Red-Eyes, Not sure how you'd get the other one, and you'd Dragon's Mirror. Then you can start destroying cards with quick effects and inflicting extra damage for it like there's no tomorrow..... as long as there's fodder which I guess you'd Foolish Burial into an Eclipse Wyvern or something, although that's not exactly "all fodder you need".

 

 

It IS an overpowered card if the rest of the deck was actually good. At the very least I can say the rest of the deck is actually really cool [/not biased from when I played the Red-Eyes Structure Deck]

 

I thiiiiiiiiiiiiink I, uhh.... would. Ugh.... Leave it as is.

The individual design is questionable, but the deck can't really abuse this until Future Fusion comes back.... or Metamorphosis.

Or Cyber Stein/Summoner of Illusions become a thing....... Oh wait.

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But by doing so would you think it would make it playable I mean it is Three Red Eyes

But three Red-Eyes is...well, a ridiculous feat. Sleepy Furret said it about as best as it could be said, in ways ot accomplish this, but there is practically no support for Red-Eyes, making this a bear to use. As for this effect, being able to use it on both player's turn, on top of having a double-option for it AND super-high attack just make this a bit OP, as Aqua pointed out for the effect.

 

It's too much for a card that has too little.

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Alright I think I will Nerf the ATK to 3500 and have to target 1 card on the field and destroy it but I like the quick effect on it since it is right now what a like -7.

 

 

Hell Beleeze is a like -3 and it is stronger than this.

That's a bad example to use.It doesn't change the fact you made a rather strong card for a monster that has quite literally one card of support.

 

It doesn't matter how much of a minus it is, the fact remains you're trying to force something form a nearly unusuable card.

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Alright I think I will Nerf the ATK to 3500 and have to target 1 card on the field and destroy it but I like the quick effect on it since it is right now what a like -7.

 

 

Hell Beleeze is a like -3 and it is stronger than this.

The problematic bit on this card, is that... umm how do I put this.

This is either gonna be abysmally hard to Summon, and such it'll be bad

or it'll be easy/affordable to Summon, and such it'll be bad for the game.

I'm not saying it's completely impossible to get it right, but it's a concept that very often fails when I've seen it tried. The line is too thin and close to impossible to see by most.

 

As the card currently stands the traits are:

-It's unstoppable from getting to the field

-It has a very huge almost unreachable ATK

-It has a quick effect that's really disruptive

but at the same time

-It eats away at it's own deck's theme, rather than complementing it's strategy.

-It is incredibly hard to Summon

 

Overpowered but hard to use, is often a bad combination.

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The problematic bit on this card, is that... umm how do I put this.

This is either gonna be abysmally hard to Summon, and such it'll be bad

or it'll be easy/affordable to Summon, and such it'll be bad for the game.

I'm not saying it's completely impossible to get it right, but it's a concept that very often fails when I've seen it tried. The line is too thin and close to impossible to see by most.

 

As the card currently stands the traits are:

-It's unstoppable from getting to the field

-It has a very huge almost unreachable ATK

-It has a quick effect that's really disruptive

but at the same time

-It eats away at it's own deck's theme, rather than complementing it's strategy.

-It is incredibly hard to Summon

 

Overpowered but hard to use, is often a bad combination.

When you point it out that way, it sounds like an Egyptian God Card.

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When you point it out that way, it sounds like an Egyptian God Card.

Huhhh.... True.

Legal Ra (any Ra really) is just an OTK machine. It even leaves you at 100 or give a ridiculously costly destruction effect.

Slifer's second mouth can be a game-breaker for many decks.

Obelisk is the most redeeming of the 3..........

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Well i think that Card is allready created,but i like the IDEA...Why not the Red Eyes B.D. has a Tripple Fusion?The Blue Eyes has.So i really like it :)

9/10 :)

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Though, Blue-Eyes was always a Trinity. They always kept remarking the fact there are only 3 usable ones in the world, and that Kaiba uses them.

As for Red-Eyes. It's supposed to be rare and powerful, but it's obviously an underdog compared to Blue-Eyes, and we are never told how rare it is. Even GX characters have it. So triple Fusion is not THAT fitting.

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Well Red Eyes in the story has way more potential than Blue Eyes White Dragon which is why The Legendary Red-Eyes Black Dragon has 3500 ATK aka "Meteror Dragon"

Potential meaning versatility. But it's not as rare as Blue-Eyes, nor as support as Blue-Eyes, nor ANYTHING as Blue-Eyes. Trying to compare them just doesn't work on any level.

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Well i think that Card is allready created,but i like the IDEA...Why not the Red Eyes B.D. has a Tripple Fusion?The Blue Eyes has.So i really like it :)

9/10 :)

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I've asked you before; you need to follow the Advanced Clause, which states that each comment must be (word-by-word) as long as the card effect. Also, please don't post those eggs in each of your posts; they're annoying and spammy. If you must post the eggs, do so in your signature.

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Google image search this thing and be amazed at the staggaring number of times people have created this card.

And, other than the rather nice looking art, this card is pretty bad, since any dragon deck with half decent fusion support can make this really, really easily, and with enough fodder ( which many dragon decks can totally put in the graveyard) this thing can burn through enough life points to set up for an otk.

And its uncounterable, which makes it harder to deal with.

Did i mention RDMD can summon this if it somehow leaves the field? Because thats a thing, too.

Long-short of it: this thing needs a nerf. Notice how the other triple dragon fusions (cyber end and BEUD) are either just huge beaters or have limits on their summoning. Maybe make it non-substitutable (which still leaves prisma, mind you), and definitely make this negatable/killable.

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Cyber Dragon is much better than Red-Eyes, Blue Eyes has the Maiden which is insanely powerful and allow you to summon a Blue-Eyes Easily. Not many Dragon Decks support fusion outside of Cyber dragon decks and they don't even count as dragons.Cyber-End Dragon and Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon are WAY outdated yugioh is a game where ATK for the most part holds very little value anymore. Example who would you pick REMD or BEUD? That is why I made it THIS Powerful obviously if you can pull this thing out it will terrorize this field WHICH IS WHAT A -7 SHOULD DO but I do understand that it needs to be nerfed down but remember...3 red eyes :(.If only they made Miracle Fusion for Dragons...

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Cyber Dragon is much better than Red-Eyes, Blue Eyes has the Maiden which is insanely powerful and allow you to summon a Blue-Eyes Easily. Not many Dragon Decks support fusion outside of Cyber dragon decks and they don't even count as dragons.Cyber-End Dragon and Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon are WAY outdated yugioh is a game where ATK for the most part holds very little value anymore. Example who would you pick REMD or BEUD? That is why I made it THIS Powerful obviously if you can pull this thing out it will terrorize this field WHICH IS WHAT A -7 SHOULD DO but I do understand that it needs to be nerfed down but remember...3 red eyes :(.If only they made Miracle Fusion for Dragons...

As long as king dragun is a thing, dragons will have at least some reason to support fusions, and if i were running this, you could bet that id be packing dragun and all the fusion support i could put in here, because this + dragun with a good graveyard engine makes for a nice clean gg. Throw darkness metal in and you have yourself a nice otk machine.

Literally 1 dragon shrine, a prisma, and a dragon's mirror will get this thing out (first turn even, if youre lucky enough). And, while cyber dragon itself is certainly better than red eyes, this card far outclasses cyber end dragon in utility (cyber ebd can't be versagoed/king of the swamped, like this can, and this has all that juicy support from heiratics and redeyes darkness metal going for it, too)

Edit: sorry for the double post. Smartphone got glitchy.
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As long as king dragun is a thing, dragons will have at least some reason to support fusions, and if i were running this, you could bet that id be packing dragun and all the fusion support i could put in here, because this + dragun with a good graveyard engine makes for a nice clean gg. Throw darkness metal in and you have yourself a nice otk machine.

Literally 1 dragon shrine, a prisma, and a dragon's mirror will get this thing out (first turn even, if youre lucky enough). And, while cyber dragon itself is certainly better than red eyes, this card far outclasses cyber end dragon in utility (cyber ebd can't be versagoed/king of the swamped, like this can, and this has all that juicy support from heiratics and redeyes darkness metal going for it, too)
As long as king dragun is a thing, dragons will have at least some reason to support fusions, and if i were running this, you could bet that id be packing dragun and all the fusion support i could put in here, because this + dragun with a good graveyard engine makes for a nice clean gg. Throw darkness metal in and you have yourself a nice otk machine.

Literally 1 dragon shrine, a prisma, and a dragon's mirror will get this thing out (first turn even, if youre lucky enough). And, while cyber dragon itself is certainly better than red eyes, this card far outclasses cyber end dragon in utility (cyber ebd can't be versagoed/king of the swamped, like this can, and this has all that juicy support from heiratics and redeyes darkness metal going for it, too)

If you're running King Dragun at any point recently or int eh near future, you're doing it WAY wrong. Dragon fusion hasn't been a thing for a while now, with good reason. A three Red-Eyes one wouldn't even fit into one anyhow, it's too absurd and out-of-place.

 

Your example wastes three cards right off the bat, which is a BIG no-no to be doing, and takes a hell of a lot of luck. That's a one-shot case pretty much.

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If you're running King Dragun at any point recently or int eh near future, you're doing it WAY wrong. Dragon fusion hasn't been a thing for a while now, with good reason. A three Red-Eyes one wouldn't even fit into one anyhow, it's too absurd and out-of-place.
 
Your example wastes three cards right off the bat, which is a BIG no-no to be doing, and takes a hell of a lot of luck. That's a one-shot case pretty much.

while you are entirely correct, i was more using as an example of what you could do with dragon fusion. Although honestly, i dont see how summoning this card is a waste, since it has star-eater like invulnerability and higher atk. Plus that fun burn ability ( which has a turn and a half of fodder set up if you somehow manage to not banish its material). Just saying its pretty strong, fusion or not.
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while you are entirely correct, i was more using as an example of what you could do with dragon fusion. Although honestly, i dont see how summoning this card is a waste, since it has star-eater like invulnerability and higher atk. Plus that fun burn ability ( which has a turn and a half of fodder set up if you somehow manage to not banish its material). Just saying its pretty strong, fusion or not.

It's absurdly powerful with the Egyptian God clause stuck to it, and dumping your hand for a single monster that will slam itself into any number of post-summon traps is ALWAYS a bad idea. It shouldn't take three cards to create one that does....what? Hurts your own dragons by banishing them out, then giving a choice between two kind of ridiculous effects. This card jsut doesn't work on ANY level.

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while you are entirely correct, i was more using as an example of what you could do with dragon fusion. Although honestly, i dont see how summoning this card is a waste, since it has star-eater like invulnerability and higher atk. Plus that fun burn ability ( which has a turn and a half of fodder set up if you somehow manage to not banish its material). Just saying its pretty strong, fusion or not.

Examining the scenarios of this card, you have the following:
Using Polymerization is pretty much out of the question.

Using Dragon's Mirror will banish all your Red-Eyes for this or at the very best, will leave 1 after you replace the third with Prisma in that combo.

 

After that last situation happens, you'll have 2 scenarios:
If that powerful ATK and effect is not dangerous enough, expect your card to be taken down soon, and you invested most or all of your central deck's focus into it.

If it IS a huge boss, and it was as easy and conventional to Summon, and so threatening, then it could be labeled as broken, which is not ok.

 

Is either scenario actually good at all? Not really.

The right way of making Red-Eyes support would be to make card that actually support the deck's structure to improve the overall quality of the game and people could stop saying "Red-Eyes decks are bad". THEN you could afford to make a not so BS boss for them and have it be more accessible.

Some decks just can't be fixed with a single card, and many of the ones that are, often deserve to die because of their dependence on such a card.

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