Undertaker 21-1

[Lord Metallium]

It has happen guys the streak has officilally died....... now wwe will die

[Yankee]

Nah, it won't die.

WWE hasn't ever been better.

It's just sad that they chose to do it the way they did it.

Taker had to lose eventually. They kept calling it the STREAK. Could have called it many things, but they settled on Streak. A streak is meant to be broken.

Guy is also 49. He needed to get out eventually.

I'm just disappointed with the choice of who they had beat him.

[Lord Metallium]

he should retire now but know this the reason why wrestlemania was always full is cause of the undertaker, now that has finally been defeated no one would ever watch wrestlemanie again as far as i know

[Yankee]

Nah, people are going to watch. I do agree, however, that many people watch due to the Undertaker matches. His matches have made sub par Wrestlemanias in to epics. The Michaels matches. Triple H. Kane. His matches are classics every time. I truly doubt WWE creative thought about the full consequences of having Undertaker lose would be.

Now, we have to understand, so long as he remained undefeated he would be obligated to have a match every year. The guy is 49. Been doing this in WWF/WWE sine 1991. Been doing it for years before then on other promotions. He's done.

I would have accepted him losing more if it didn't seem so rushed. They just suddenly threw out this idea of Taker vs Lesnar in late February.  And of all things, it was TAKER who issued the challenge. It was rushed. I just wish it was a better story, and a better opponent.

[Thar]

Shouldn't this be in Movies/TV Shows?

 

And I agree with Yankee. It won't die, it'll be the same as it's been for the past 5 years; boring, predictable, disappointing, but strangely addicting. And besides; Undertaker's an old fart. He needed to retire before his age caught up with his actions in the ring and resulted in something related to Stone Cold's head and spine issues.

 

As the quote goes: "This is not the end; only the beginning of something new." Or something like that.

[Enrise]

Nah, people are going to watch. I do agree, however, that many people watch due to the Undertaker matches. His matches have made sub par Wrestlemanias in to epics. The Michaels matches. Triple H. Kane. His matches are classics every time. I truly doubt WWE creative thought about the full consequences of having Undertaker lose would be.

Now, we have to understand, so long as he remained undefeated he would be obligated to have a match every year. The guy is 49. Been doing this in WWF/WWE sine 1991. Been doing it for years before then on other promotions. He's done.

I would have accepted him losing more if it didn't seem so rushed. They just suddenly threw out this idea of Taker vs Lesnar in late February.  And of all things, it was TAKER who issued the challenge. It was rushed. I just wish it was a better story, and a better opponent.

 

Actually, he was in the wrestling business since '84, but entered the WW(F/E) in '90.

 

I digress; the streak was his niche, and I only watch the show because of The Undertaker. And when I saw everyone in the stadium not even making a sound, no music playing or anything, I knew that so many people would be angry with what happened. I honestly expected a large chunk of the audience get up and leave. I know I did, cause it was the only match I looked forward to.

[.Ash]

My main problem with this match is that it was just so poor. After a decently hyped start it just devolved into a slow and utterly boring match. Such a disappointing way for the streak to end.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. 

 

But, yeah, horrible way to end the streak. No one should be happy about this in the end.

[Just Crouton]

Didn't watch, but bout friggin' time.

 

I mean, Undertaker just shows up from out of nowhere once a year, points to the WM logo, then, it's a match.

 

It gets old after awhile.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

It has happen guys the streak has officilally died....... now wwe will die

 

he should retire now but know this the reason why wrestlemania was always full is cause of the undertaker, now that has finally been defeated no one would ever watch wrestlemanie again as far as i know

 

And the award for over-reaction of the year goes to...

 

I've just got in from watching Mania, and like all of you and everyone else was just as gobsmacked that the Undertaker's streak was beaten. It took a while for it to go in at first, cuz we were all pretty numb and 'is this sh*t for real?'

 

But now it's sunk in a bit, I'm totally fine with this, and am just laughing at guys like the OP and the million other people making Twitter explode at the minute saying the same thing and how they know better than Vince and Taker. Yankee summed it up: Taker's 49 and can't go on forever. WWE can't depend on him forever (as much as they love part-timers atm). And he is going to get to the point where he can't do it anymore, which tbh was kinda evident in the match.

 

But this decision won't have been made on a whim like some of the reactions seem to have taken it as. Of course WWE will know it's a risk and will alienate some people. But I imagine Taker will have had a large say in if and who he'd eventually lose to, and him and Lesnar have had the past anomisity from UFC events. Factor in Paul Heyman wanting revenge after Punk last year which ties in, and Lesnar's own reputation... it's hardly massively left field and rushed as a story. But for me the shock value made it. If it was promoted as 'this is gonna be my last match' for months then people would have expected it. If it had been against a young riser like say Reigns or Ziggler people might have been wary about it might happen.

 

The fact that everyone believed so certainly Taker would win against Lesnar, treating it almost as a formality that he'd beat Brock Lesnar, and then he lost to a guy who at the end of the day is a big name just made such an amazing moment. And for me it coming totally out of the blue with nobody expecting it was the best way for it to go. Yes, I'm a bit wary of Lesnar being the guy to do it as a part-timer, and the success of this will largely depend on how much time he spends in WWE and doing what from now on. But perhaps Taker himself would rather not give the honour to someone who might not definitely go on to be a huge name and not fulfill the potential gifted by ending it, and thus have his streak ended by a nobody, rather than someone who is a former UFC Champ/youngest every WWE Champ/etc. It will have been largely his decision, and although I would have been happier to see him retire with the streak intact, I'm fine with this, and certainly not gonna spit out the dummy and announce the company is dead over it as if Taker was the only guy there (who remember has only turned up once a year for last few years).

 

Think my mate summed it up with this: "People complain about wrestling being predictable, then cry on the internet when they are genuinely shocked at something."

[Yankee]

Fun fact...
Apparently word has gotten out from wwe saying that undertaker wasn't supposed to lose. Apparently McMahon is quoted as saying something screwed up.
I'm not sure how true this is, but this would make things awkward.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

Fun fact...
Apparently word has gotten out from wwe saying that undertaker wasn't supposed to lose. Apparently McMahon is quoted as saying something screwed up.
I'm not sure how true this is, but this would make things awkward.

Well, Taker is 49 and wrestles once a year now.

Brock Lesnar has only wrestled a few matches since his return.

It's not surprising that there might be a botch.

 

I honestly wanted the streak to be perfect, but I'll live. I also wanted this to be the retirement match.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

Fun fact...
Apparently word has gotten out from wwe saying that undertaker wasn't supposed to lose. Apparently McMahon is quoted as saying something screwed up.
I'm not sure how true this is, but this would make things awkward.

 

Well... it's possible I guess. They got the 21-1 screen put together very quickly in that case.

 

But I think people might assume that given the delay with Lesnar's music hitting and so on, but I find it more natural to create the impression even the guys in the back were shocked and unprepared and so on.

 

But I don't see how such an important match/thing would be allowed to just be screwed up.

 

Just wait til Raw I guess.

[OmegaWave]

The overreactions to Lesnar vs Taker are to be expected. The end result shouldn't actually anger anybody if they sat down and thought about it for a bit.

 

The Undertaker is 49 years old. His streak stood at 21 - 0, a feat that probably no one else in WWE will ever beat. The man wanted to retire, obviously. He's been looking worse and worse every year. It didn't take away from his performance, mind you. However, you could tell that his health has been deteriorating. I don't think he's ever wanted to retire with a perfect record. He is most likely of the mindset that the streak should be beaten by the future. Someone who WWE puts a lot of faith into and wants to push very heavily.

 

Enter THE BEAST INCARNATE, Brock Lesnar.

 

It's been quite obvious for some time now that WWE wants to push Lesnar very badly as the unstoppable monster heel figure. Now pop quiz everyone, what better way is there to promote a guy as being Dominate, Unstoppable, A Freak of Nature, A Super Heel, and just all around A MONSTER in a single instant? This reaction you're all having? This is precisely what WWE wanted from you. You all hate Brock Lesnar. You want him to die. AND YET, you want to watch. There you go. Make sense now? It sure does to me.

 

I'm looking forward to Raw tonight more than any other i've watched. I get the feeling that from here on out, 2014 is going to be WWE's best year in recent memory.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

I'm looking forward to Raw tonight more than any other i've watched. I get the feeling that from here on out, 2014 is going to be WWE's best year in recent memory.

 

^^ Orton gets obligatory rematch against Bryan (possibly even on Raw tonight as I for one have no interest in Orton being in the title picture and just to get it over with), but once that's dealt with Triple H, still bitter about Bryan and wanting to get the title of him, announces a new number one contender to Daniel Bryan... and...

 

*DUN! DUN... du-du-dun dun DUN!*

 

Crowd goes berserk. Vince sits back and puts his feet up on the desk with a smug grin.

 

Ps: I'm so going Mania next year.

[OmegaWave]

 

This made my day.

[Just Crouton]

http://www.kayfabenews.com/undertaker-begins-wrestlemania-losing-streak/

 

Kayfabe News made my day.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

Honestly, as disappointed as I am in the streak being over, there could easily be some good that comes out of this.

Lesnar is now this evil incarnate that beat The Undertaker. He's as bad as bad can be now. This is WWE's chance to really push somebody new (please not Cena in this case) and have some David slay this Goliath maybe in Summerslam or maybe take it to Wrestlemania 31 (which would be great for building this character up). Lesnar getting defeated in 31 could put anyone over at this point and should be considered a focal point for next year.

And, don't forget, Rock and Cena had constant buildup over a year for their match, so it can be done.

[Frunk]

It's fake, anyway.

[OmegaWave]

It's fake, anyway.

 

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

Honestly, as disappointed as I am in the streak being over, there could easily be some good that comes out of this.

Lesnar is now this evil incarnate that beat The Undertaker. He's as bad as bad can be now. This is WWE's chance to really push somebody new (please not Cena in this case) and have some David slay this Goliath maybe in Summerslam or maybe take it to Wrestlemania 31 (which would be great for building this character up). Lesnar getting defeated in 31 could put anyone over at this point and should be considered a focal point for next year.

And, don't forget, Rock and Cena had constant buildup over a year for their match, so it can be done.

 

Or, since I'm going (I am going) Mania next year, Undertaker vs Lesnar rematch in California please.

 

Pretty simple to write; Undertaker comes back saying he wants one more match, and though you've taken the streak from me and I'll never get it back... I'm taking you down with me. (Or better yet comes back and wins Rumble to challenge Lesnar for title... maybe)

 

I just think that even without the streak Taker should go out on a win, and I want to cling on to the hope of seeing him in action once.

 

Rest of the card was pretty good for me; Trips Bryan match the crowd was insanely into it, Shield kept the ball rolling with their cameo, Cesaro winning the Battle Royal was awesome and much deserved, and obviously title match. Also Paige wins Diva's title on Raw <3

 

Plus I won £12 on the sweepstakes by being the only guy to predict a Cena win. It feels dirty but I'll take it.

[Yankee]

Plus I won £12 on the sweepstakes by being the only guy to predict a Cena win. It feels dirty but I'll take it.

 

People thought Cena would lose?

I thought the outcome of the match was obvious. Cena wins, but Wyatt is the ultimate victor in that Cena would have to show he's no idol to do so.

While I was wrong in that Cena DIDN'T hit him with a chair, he ALMOST did. Which, in WWE, is more than good enough.

 

Wyatt said it himself. Cena was the only one with anything to lose. So I knew right away Wyatt didn't have to win the match to win the war.

[Kyng]

'bout time.

That's all I can say about a gimmick as drawn out at this one.

[Bahamut - Envoy of the End]

People thought Cena would lose?

I thought the outcome of the match was obvious. Cena wins, but Wyatt is the ultimate victor in that Cena would have to show he's no idol to do so.

While I was wrong in that Cena DIDN'T hit him with a chair, he ALMOST did. Which, in WWE, is more than good enough.

 

Wyatt said it himself. Cena was the only one with anything to lose. So I knew right away Wyatt didn't have to win the match to win the war.

 

Apparently. I was 1 of only 7 to go for it.

 

I think the problem we all had was struggling to pick out the single Mania heel win (because there's always one and only one), because obviously nobody went for Lesnar. So I think that might have been it. Wyatt has been incredible since he came in. Just couldn't see Cena losing for a third year in 4 though.

 

Everyone went Bryan both times, everyone went Taker, obviously no-one had Cesaro since he was unannounced and in action elsewhere (although I did say garunteed it would be one of the mystery entrants), most went AJ and Usos, and everyone bar me went Wyatt. Only really the Shield match that split the vote for the moneys.

 

Moneys I expect to waste today on Yugimanz packs -_-

 

'bout time.

That's all I can say about a gimmick as drawn out at this one.

 

Tad harsh.