Armoire Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Infernoid AstarothFIre/Fined/4/1800/0Cannot Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 1 "Infernoid" monster from your hand or Graveyard while the combined Level/Rank of all monsters you control is 8 or less, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. (1) Once per turn: You can target 1 Spell/Trap Card on the field; destroy it. This card cannot attack during this turn you activat this effect. (2) Once per turn, during your opponent's turn: You can Tribute 1 monster you control, then targe 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard; banish it. Infernoid Asmodai Fire/Fiend/5/2200/0Cannot Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand or Graveyard) by banishing 2 "Infernoid" monsters total from your hand or Graveyard while the combined Level/Rank of all monsters you control is 8 or less, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. (1) When this attacking card inflicts battle damage to your opponent: You can send 1 random card from your opponent's hand to the Graveyard. (2) Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can Tribute 1 monster you control, then target 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard; banish it. Infernoid Vael Fire/Fiend/7/2600/0Cannot Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand or Graveyard) by banishing 3 "Infernoid" monsters from your hand or Graveyard while the combined Level/Rank of all monsters you control is 8 or less, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. (1) At the end of a Battle Phase in which this card attacked an opponent's monster: You can banish 1 card on the field. (2) Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can Tribute 1 monster, then target 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard; banish it. Infernoid Adramelek Fire/Fiend/8/2800/0Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand or Graveyard) by banishing 3 other "Infernoid" monster from your hand or Graveyard, while the combined Level/Rank of all Effect Monsters you control is 6 or less, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. (1) During the Damage Step, if this attacking card destroys an opponent's monster by battle: It can make a second attack in a row.(2) During either player's turn: you can tribute 1 monster you control to target up to (1/2?) cards in the opponent's Graveyard; Banish those cards. Looks like they'll be banishing quite a bit while relying on tokens to tribute. I'm really liking this archetype. Discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 (Why does Adramalech say 6 when everyone else has an 8?) They have 21 monsters by themselves now. Enough to make a straight deck, which means you can now use the double Foolish. Most of these look designed for battle pressure, and all their different levels add the possibility of Synchro/Xyz shenanigans. They're still missing that one card that would let you recycle them though, looks like we're stuck with Burial from a Different Dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Can hardly wait for them to pop up on DN. Their built-in limitation is super clever, and their boss monsters are totally sick. Also, they very well may synergize with Blaster better than any archetype ever has, ever, and I think that is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Astaroth seems kind of ineffective since it can't get around Vanity's Emptiness which pretty much cripples the archetype. The others are cool punishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 The thing is, these guys have really obvious weaknesses, but if those weren't in place, they might get completely insane. Such a crazy amount of Graveyard hate on them. I dunno why though, do Qliphoths even use the Graveyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Vael is really damn cool. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Such a crazy amount of Graveyard hate on them. I dunno why though, do Qliphoths even use the Graveyard? Did you ever play against a MTG card called Arcbound Ravager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 What does Ravager have to do with those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 This can help them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Did you ever play against a MTG card called Arcbound Ravager? "Sacrifice an artifact: Put a +1/+1 counter on Arcbound Ravager. Modular 1 (This comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it. When it's put into a graveyard, you may put its +1/+1 counters on target artifact creature.)" What does that have to do with anything at all? These guys, story wise, are supposed to own Qliphoths, but I don't see how removing from the Grave really hurts them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 (Why does Adramalech say 6 when everyone else has an 8?) They have 21 monsters by themselves now. Enough to make a straight deck, which means you can now use the double Foolish. Most of these look designed for battle pressure, and all their different levels add the possibility of Synchro/Xyz shenanigans. They're still missing that one card that would let you recycle them though, looks like we're stuck with Burial from a Different Dimension. Miracle Dig can work too, although I don't know how good that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Think you'd run Scapegoats with them? They seem to like to tribute stuff. Definitely Mathematician and Foolish Burial will be in the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Think you'd run Scapegoats with them? They seem to like to tribute stuff. Not really. Tributing is completely secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 These guys, story wise, are supposed to own Qliphoths, but I don't see how removing from the Grave really hurts them.Except story wise, a card/Archetype's power is hardly a factor, when flavor is more of what they are going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I like the theme of how they burn each other to make a bigger flame. Since there's a drawback to who you can summon depending on the total levels of the monsters you control, which is why you tribute (a.k.a. "burn") them to open up enough space for the boss monsters. I'm really liking Astaroth though. It's a once per turn MST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 What does that have to do with anything at all? These guys, story wise, are supposed to own Qliphoths, but I don't see how removing from the Grave really hurts them. ... No? Qliphorts were the prisons for these guys, so it makes sense that they don't suffer from Infernoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Wiki says they rule them. I dunno, Maybe they're making stuff up. In either case, DevPro needs to get more of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Wiki is shit anyway and often have wrong info Also, still really damn unsure about how the deck will flow aside from just dropping boss monsters again and again and do horrible stuffs to the opponent. Just felt that...idk, something was still very off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 They Tribute themselves and become fuel for others of the Archetype to Summon themselves rather than being banished by the opponent's card effects. That is the comparison I was drawing to Arcbound Ravager, which uses its effect as a form of irritating evasion to float power and toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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