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So, full spoilers are out for Ixalan. What're you all eyeing for your decks as upgrades?

https://magic.wizard...-gallery/ixalan
 

Ephara:

  • Additions: Glacial Fortress (upgrading art).
  • Considerations: ---

Edgar:

  • Additions: Bishop of RebirthCall to the FeastLegion's LandingMavren Fein, Dusk ApostleSanctum SeekerVona, Butcher of MaganVanquisher's Banner (all great for vampire tribal), Arguel's Blood Fast (card draw!).
  • Considerations: Bloodcrazed Paladin (again, vampires).

Grimgrin:

  • Additions: Drowned Catacomb (upgrading art), Deadeye Tracker (grave hate + counters), Herald of Secret Streams (evasion for Grimgrin), Hostage Taker (great removal).
  • Considerations: Thaumatic Compass (helps hit land drops and turns into Maze of Ith).

This set seems awfully light on cards to me, tbh. If I didn't have Edgar I'd be getting a lot fewer cards.


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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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I want to make a Dino EDH but I just don't think there's enough worthwhile dinos to make What's his names ability consistent enough. Even with changelings you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for impactful dinosaurs.

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I want to make a Dino EDH but I just don't think there's enough worthwhile dinos to make What's his names ability consistent enough. Even with changelings you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for impactful dinosaurs.


I agree. Now is not the time to build Gishath, the best thing to do is wait till Rivals of Ixalan comes out, since it will add some more much needed Dino's.

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I just picked up a Spanish Angus MacKenzie. I need to build a more casual deck that's not just bant oops I win good stuff. What do?

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I just picked up a Spanish Angus MacKenzie. I need to build a more casual deck that's not just bant oops I win good stuff. What do?

 

 

Enchantress with planeswalker finishers? Don't have any combos in the deck (or if you do, only make it Doubling Season + Jace, Cunning Castaway).

 

Or are you looking for something more janky?


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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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I was thinking enchantress with a light bit of stax. I want enchanted evening+aura thief as my main win. I'd do walkers but I got rid of my doubling seasons.

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It only took 3 weeks, but I finally figured out the new cards I want for my many lists.

Karador: Growing Rites of Itlimoc
Animar: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Tishana, Voice of Thunder
Sedris: Fleet Swallower
Rith: Growing Rites of of Itlimoc
Freyalise: Growing Rites of Itlimoc
Hanna: Thaumatic Compass, Search for Azcanta, Overflowing Insight
Grenzo: Unclaimed Territory, Vanquisher’s Banner, Dowsing Dagger
Iroas: Captain Lannery Storm, Dowsing Dagger
Sliver Overlord: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Unclaimed Territory
Ezuri: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Tishana, Voice of Thunder
Gitrog: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Thaumatic Compass
Kozilek: Conqueror's Galleon, Dowsing Dagger
Kemba: Dowsing Dagger
Phenax: Fleet Swallower, Overflowing Insight
Atraxa: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Herald of Secret Streams, Vraska, Relic Seeker
Wort: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Primal Amulet
Talrand: River’s Rebuke, Primal Amulet, Search for Azcanta
Prossh: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Unclaimed Territory

Sharuum: No Change
Sidisi: No Change
Sigarda: No Change

tl;dr I need a ton of Growing Rites of Itlimoc. I fear for the day when I own all the decks since full upgrades are going to be expensive. Though I don't think it will be that bad.

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Ezuri: Growing Rites of Itlimoc, Tishana, Voice of Thunder

 

 

Surprised you don't have Herald of Secret Streams in there: he seems like a slam dunk for UG!Ezuri.


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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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Surprised you don't have Herald of Secret Streams in there: he seems like a slam dunk for UG!Ezuri.


I did consider him, but the deck doesn't go wide with counters in the way Atraxa does. My thought process was that between Craterhoof, Champion of Lambholt, and random evasive creatures in the deck already if I want to swing in with giant evasive creatures I already have ways to do that. I can be wrong in this matter though.
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I did consider him, but the deck doesn't go wide with counters in the way Atraxa does. My thought process was that between Craterhoof, Champion of Lambholt, and random evasive creatures in the deck already if I want to swing in with giant evasive creatures I already have ways to do that. I can be wrong in this matter though.

 
 
Late response, but I'd still try him out. At minimum he's another experience counter with Ezuri, and you're not guaranteed to always be able to push creatures through.
 
Anyhow, wanted to give a write-up on my current stable of decks. I have two complete in paper, one that's an online list that may make the jump into paper, and two other commanders that I'd like to build.

  • Ephara, God of the Polis // list built in paper
    • Probably the list I've had together the longest in paper now, and one of my favorites. It's a very control-heavy build that focuses on flickering creatures with ETB triggers while playing hatebears and prison/fort effects, all the while holding a full grip of cards in hand. Once the game gets to 1v1, my opponent usually can't stand against the myriad of outs I run to their threats, and I can peck them to death with a bunch of weenies.
  • Edgar Markov // list built in paper
    • Pretty standard Markov list. Even though there's nothing fancy about it, I just really enjoy how Edgar plays: his eminence ability makes an aggro strategy actually viable.
  • Grimgrin, Corpse-Born // list built online
    • The result of a White Elephant experiment. My assignment was to build Grimgrin as "counters tribal," not the standard zombie zerg rush. I thought this was going to be tricky, as missing green means we don't get as many of the counter tricks - surprisingly, though, the deck still works. While +1/+1 counters are the name of the game here, there are some fun things to do with -1/-1 and energy counters too. The primary wincon is to pump Grimgrin up to absurd heights, then swing with an angry zombie behemoth for lethal.
  • Riku of Two Reflections // list is WIP
    • Intending to make this a spellslinger build, so keeping a low number of creatures and piling up on powerful instants and sorceries. The "key card" is Primal Amulet: when it flips, I hope to tap and untap Primal Wellspring as much as possible to copy a haymaker and make it lethal.
  • Samut, Voice of Dissent // list is WIP
    • Probably just an "activated abilities matter" list? Not sure yet - this mainly came about from the remnants of my now-disassembled Saskia list.

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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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Heres a quick first draft of kind of a cheesy combo deck. The idea is to use Deceiver of forms + Biovisionary to win. Food chain is just a backup.

 

http://tappedout.net...g-biovisionary/



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the other day i disassembled five decks and made a monster out of them:

http://tappedout.net...an-ft-dj-kraum/

 

it was a ton of fun but i had to take it apart so that i could have more than two decks. has anyone found a particularly exciting partner pair aside from the usual thrasios/tymna?

 

 

Heres a quick first draft of kind of a cheesy combo deck. The idea is to use Deceiver of forms + Biovisionary to win. Food chain is just a backup.

 

http://tappedout.net...g-biovisionary/

 

 

infinite reflection? i know it's not very tutorable but it wins with biovisionary out of nowhere usually.


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infinite reflection? i know it's not very tutorable but it wins with biovisionary out of nowhere usually.

 

 

You never want to draw or play biovisionary. Thats why I'm considering putting scroll rack in because this deck needs more ways to get biovisionary back into the library. Plus always shuffling with Momir makes scroll rack ridiculous.



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So, opinions of the validity of it aside, does anyone plan on taking advantage of the "Un-set holiday special?" I'm half-thinking of seeing if my playgroup will let me throw a few silver-border cards into my black-border decks for funsies.

  • Ephara: Clocknapper, Very Cryptic Command
  • Hazezon: Earl of Squirrel, Ineffable Blessing, Oddly Uneven

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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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i built an entire deck around die rolls. lobe lobber is one hell of a card

 

http://tappedout.net...ks/riku-roll-2/

 

 

the lands are obviously optimized, including a watermarket. i didn't want to type them all out though. this deck plays like dnd and has been a lot of fun so far.


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It's that time of year again: the time where I pester you all to post what cards you're adding from the newest set. This time, it's Rivals of Ixalan, which seems to have more good stuff than Ixalan did. More overtly-powerful tribal themes, and many more interesting rares.

 

Hazezon:

  • Huatli, Radiant Champion (trivially easy to ultimate, and her -1 can deal some serious damage)
  • Path of Discovery (this before a Hazezon resolution is an absurd amount of card advantage)
  • Wayward Swordtooth (Exploration strapped to an undercosted body)

Ephara:

  • Azor, the Lawbringer (ETB trigger is good, and his attack trigger refills my hand)
  • Crafty Cutpurse (can be a blowout against token decks)
  • Release to the Wind (saves a key permanent from a wipe, or rebuys a good ETB trigger)

Edgar:

  • Arch of Orazca (later game card advantage!)
  • Bishop of Binding (unless otherwise stated, assume the reason is "generically good vampire")
  • Champion of Dusk
  • Dusk Legion Zealot
  • Elenda, the Dusk Rose (her + sac outlet = wrath insurance)
  • Forerunner of the Legion
  • Legion Lieutenant
  • Martyr of Dusk
  • Radiant Destiny (anthem effects are good, anthems that help enable ascend are even better)
  • Skymarcher Aspirant
  • Twilight Prophet

Riku:

  • Brass's Bounty (lots of mana, and unlike Boundless Realms it doesn't cap out)

 

Alesha:

  • Dire Fleet Daredevil (steal key removal spells)
  • Pirate's Pillage (looting and artifacts)
  • Pitiless Plunderer (artifacts on death trigger)

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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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Not sure how much I can contribute, but I figured I'd pop in here. I've been playing since the Mirrodin Besieged prerelease, and my decks are:

 

Nicol Bolas (Mono-Instants, or rather Mono Instant-Speed)

Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant (Mono-Green Combo)

The Unspeakable (Morphs and Arcane)

Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder (An exercise in indulgence)

 

And lastly The Big Idea, which isn't legal anymore (well, certain card choices made it not legal at any point), but it's still ninety-nine cards and a general, so... I do what I want?

 

I haven't really thought about what Rivals could add. I didn't go to a prerelease because I was snowed in, so I guess I'll have to see what I get when drafts start firing.



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The Big Idea might not be legal in stores, but you can still play it with your play group. I know I'm fine with the Unstable cards.

Speaking, of Rivals, additions from Rivals for my various lists. I have a handful of other older cards I'm going to add, but the list is long enough with just Rivals.

Karador (3)
Path of Discovery
World Shaper
Journey to Eternity

Animar (2)
Timestream Navigator
Wayward Swordtooth

Sedris (2)
Timestream Navigator
Nezahal, Primal Tide

Rith (2)
Tendershoot Dryad
Huatli, Radiant Champion

Sharuum (0)

Freyalise (1)
Arch of Orazca

Hanna (1)
Kumena's Awakening

Grenzo (2)
Azor's Gateway
The Immortal Sun

Iroas (3)
Tilonalli's Summoner
Azor's Gateway
Charging Tuskodon

Sliver Overlord (2)
Radiant Destiny

Ezuri (1)
Hadana's Climb

Gitrog (2)
Wayward Swordtooth
World Shaper

Kozilek (2)
Azor’s Gateway
Arch of Orazca

Kemba (3)
The Immortal Sun
Azor's Gateway
Arch of Orazca

Sidisi (2)
The Immortal Sun
Arch of Orazca

Phenax (2)
Azor's Gateway
Arch of Orazca

Atraxa (1)
Hadana's Climb

Sigarda (1)
Arch of Orazca

Wort (4)
Path of Discovery
Azor's Gateway
The Immortal Sun
Arch of Orazca

Talrand (3)
Flood of Recollection
The Immortal Sun
Arch of Orazca

Prossh (1)
Journey to Eternity

Edgar (8)
Forerunner of the Legion
The Immortal Sun
Radiant Destiny
Champion of Dusk
Legion Lieutenant
Oathsworn Vampire
Twilight Prophet
Elenda, the Dusk Rose
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Long time no chat, y'all. Masters 25 is out, so I wanted to get some thoughts on what people are thinking of picking up, and how they feel about the set overall.

 

Thoughts in aggregate:

  • I give it a 6.5 out of 10? The good news is that there are a lot of strong common/uncommon reprints that were even only spoiled on the final day. Promise of Bunrei, StP, Arcane Denial, Brainstorm, Counterspell, Cursecatcher, Ravenous Chupacabra, Street Wraith, Unearth, Zulaport Cutthroat, Bolt, Ancient Stirrings, Arbor Elf, Cultivate, Fierce Empath, Nettle Sentinel, Presence of Gond, Rancor, Regrowth, Utopia Sprawl, Ash Barrens, and Myriad Landscape. That's a lot!
  • The bad news is that about half of the rares and mythics seem really baffling. The Akromas, Tree of Redemption, Bident of Thassa... why? The lack of mechanics outside of morph and cycling feels bad, too. Even if we could also get devotion (if only so I could see Gary and Nykthos back in limited). The emphasis on "limited combos" may hurt the format, too, as it seems like it gets really easy to be blown out if your opponent is lucky.

Now, cards I want!

  • Ephara: Disenchant (new art!), Luminarch Ascension, Arcane Denial (new art!), Flash, Vendilion Clique.
  • Edgar: Fetid Heath and Rugged Prairie, if only so I can have a full set of M15-border filters.
  • Hazezon: Azusa, Myriad Landscape.
  • To hold onto: Animar (may build Animorphs after this), Imperial Recruiter, Pernicious Deed, Armageddon, Living Death, Phyrexian Obliterator, and a playset of Promise of Bunrei for my jank spirit!storm casual deck.

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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)


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Looking for 6 more cards to fill out the list. Thoughts?

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edh decks • ephara, god of the polishallar, the firefletcher • tuvasa the sunlit (wip)

decathlon challenge (1/10) • (azorius) • (dimir) • (rakdos) • (gruul) • emmara, soul of the accord • (orzhov) • (golgari) • (simic) • (izzet) • (boros)





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