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J-Max's Guide to Madolche (UNDER CONSTRUCTION)


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> Recommends Inferno Reckless and that crappy rat

> Ignores Instant Fusion

 

Wut.


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I'm not done yet.. Also what is wrong with Rat? It can search out a good amount of the Madolche and can even Summon itself for Deck Thinning. Thanks for the suggestion for Instant Fusion will review that soonish.


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I'm not done yet.. Also what is wrong with Rat? It can search out a good amount of the Madolche and can even Summon itself for Deck Thinning. Thanks for the suggestion for Instant Fusion will review that soonish.

>Hurr durr mageleine is too slow and requires your NS

 rat requires your stupid NS, isnt a madolche so it cant be filtered, and is stupid since it requires your opponent to have a monster.


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>Hurr durr mageleine is too slow and requires your NS

 rat requires your stupid NS, isnt a madolche so it cant be filtered, and is stupid since it requires your opponent to have a monster.

I can sense some hostility with my choices so cool it right now lol. Yes it does require your opponent to have a Monster out but can Mageleine get Anjelly straight to the field? No.

 

I can go on all day about how Rat is a recomendation. It is merely that, a Personal choice. This is why I don't mention Run amounts too.


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I can sense some hostility with my choices so cool it right now lol. Yes it does require your opponent to have a Monster out but can Mageleine get Anjelly straight to the field? No.

 

I can go on all day about how Rat is a recomendation. It is merely that, a Personal choice. This is why I don't mention Run amounts too.

Yes its hostility, because this is like the 5th comment trying to tell you that magileine is a 3-of.

Like seriously, it doesnt get it straight onto the field but it can search Mew etc to make that big play unlike rat where it just gets that measly jelly on the field for the cost of 

A: Your BP

B: Your Graveyard will be full of tosh.

Where-as mageliene is a searcher built for the archetype that adds some serious consistency but you ignore it.


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Graveyard is full of Tosh? That Tosh is perfect food for Hootcake. When I eventually cover Fire and Ice Hands they will serve the same purpose. Hootcake always needs food. 


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Honestly he has a point, you should never be running Rat unless you're maxing Magileine and even then it's very mediocre indeed.

 

I would, however, mention Spell Striker as it's quicker access to Invoker as well as putting a monster in your grave, as well as obviously Instant Fusion which is massive and probably the number 1 support card, much much better than Rat, IRS and Monk.

 

I wouldn't put Rat there because I wouldn't recommend Rat anywhere. It's super slow, actually difficult to get off and it's not like it's a 1900 floater you can summon off Palooza like Magileine is. 



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because this is like the 5th comment trying to tell you that magileine is a 3-of.


This isn't a strictly correct comment though. Magileine can be played at 3, don't get me wrong. That being said, it is not something that you are going to be playing at 3 guaranteed. Magileine is the slowest part of the deck by far and opening multiples can leave a Madolche player pretty much completely out of the game by today's standards, considering how this was the mentality taken by a lot of the people who took the deck during it's prime. This is why the accepted mindset tends to be 2-3 Magileine, mainly leaning toward 2. 3 is a consideration, especially if you're playing Double Summon in the deck, but it is by no means the "3 no question" that you're making it out to be.

Now to talk about the recommendations in your guide: They are not correct recommendations by any means. Giant Rat has already been said by multiple people to just be a significantly worse Magileine, Inferno Reckless Summon is a cute tech but I wouldn't exactly call it a "Recommended" idea by any stretch of the imagination and Summoner Monk feels as if it's grasping at straws. I would have thought the recommended cards idea would have had more things in it to do with the different variations of the Madolche build, like that one TG build that makes Naturia Beast (especially relevant since Nekroz are a good deck now) and then the hyper OTK variants with Spell Striker.

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Yeah I will be covering the TG Monsters. I actually personally like Summoner Monk as dumping a Chateau or Ticket into the Grave can help to feed Tiaramisu aswell. I understand about Giant Rat, but I originally noted that it can bring Anjelly or Hootcake out.

 

As for the Giant Rat thing? Would be be okay to include it in maybe a honorable mentions section or something?

 

Oh and IRS... I always found it to be a great idea to definatly consider when your opponent is playing Limited Monsters.

 

But yeah, I am working on adding as I go. Got a list of cards in front of me to cover.


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No honorable mentions for Rat please :/

 

IRS is bad in this deck too.

 

Monk is sub-par in the deck as you can't go into Tiaramasu with the thing except with a level 3 monster... which somehow you have to Summon without a Normal Summon and still hold a Spell which you don't mind dumping. Monk's inconsistent and Madolche don't like dumping Spells, especially Ticket and Chateau. You shouldn't them as NEED food for Tiara in grave because A) they advance your Tiara play on-field and B) If you're playing the combos correctly you should already have a Madolche in the Grave to set off the Queen's effect.


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Guide has been updated with a few more recommended cards. Giant Rat has been removed due to its Slowness. I am open to suggestions to add to my Guide. If I like the card you recommend, I will review it.


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instant fusion ):



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instant fusion ):

How so? You can't get a Material for Tiaramisu out.... Unless you mean a Level 4 for Xyz Shenanigans.


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How so? You can't get a Material for Tiaramisu out.... Unless you mean a Level 4 for Xyz Shenanigans.

 

It gets a 3 out so you can make Invoker, which is the most important r3 of the deck, with your spare random Hootcake meaning you can get another search. It's probably the most important of the non-archetype cards.



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It gets a 3 out so you can make Invoker, which is the most important r3 of the deck, with your spare random Hootcake meaning you can get another search. It's probably the most important of the non-archetype cards.

You've convinced me. Totally agree about keeping Hootcake available as well. I will add it.


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Added my personal Pure Madolche build that has OTK'd on many occasions. Instant Fusion is a New addition however.


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I would suggest discussing monsters/cards in order of importance rather than alphabetically

Frankly, I was unaware a couple of these even existed.


As I always said in the past, the game does not work at a human level logic, but with its own logic.

To understand this game, you must understand the game's logic. It does not follow obvious situations that the humans playing can see and stays very localized in the current timing.


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I would suggest discussing monsters/cards in order of importance rather than alphabetically

Frankly, I was unaware a couple of these even existed.

I have always had a habit of listing Alphabeticly :P But yeah, I may just have a mess around once the Guide is done. WIll be uploading my Naturia Madolche Build here a bit later.


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Added the deadly Madolche Waltz combo to the Guide. Keep in mind you will be hated if you play this :P


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Updated Cruffsant's Review to mention the fact you can send a Madolche Spell back from the field to your hand for its Effect. Also upped the recommended amount of Magileine to 3. There is no point running less of her as she can get a Anjelly or Hootcake to your hand Turn 1 if you were unlucky.


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