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Ok I have updated the banlist, mainly made of reccomendations from EndUser and/or others.

 

Banlist;

Exodia, Kozmo, Infernoid, D/D/D, BA, Nekroz, Shaddoll, Super Quantum, M&M, Perfor-, Qli, Monarchs, Tellarknights, Necrovalley, Speedroid.

 

Also this is to be TCG only, to answer your question Kanashi.

 

I will try to have at least some of the pairings up soon. :)

I don't think we need to ban Nekroz, Qli, and Shaddolls, since they're "dead". Of course like shaddoll, they're pretty much splashable and annoying, and Qli, a deck that can work with thousands floodgate. But again, your choice i don't mind they're getting banned (i'm not using them anyway). Also isn't Super Quantum still OCG? no need to put it into the banlist since it's still OCG.

 

 

Congrats, you banned a lot of bad decks, some decks which dont even work in TCG, and the most versatile engine ever made which encourages creative deckbuilding.

Good job,

But there's always alternate engine . . . even if it worse.

 

 

At this point, may as well kill anything remotely good.

Majespecter
HERO
Igknight
Yang Zing
Deskbot(?!)
Yosenju
Fire Fist

Burn
Merlantean
Not all of these are meta, but they are all better than Gravekeepers

I agree with the red colored bold-text.

 

Actually i'm 50-50 regarding of this, want to say i agree but also disagree at the same time. Maybe instead of banning all of the meta.dek, maybe we're allowed to use meta decks BUT MUST BE "mixed" with other archetype, so that way we can still use like shaddolls or anything but not the pure build, just my opinion of course.

And if you want to be sure, maybe the participants must send you the decklist so you can check them if their deck are allowed or not, to avoid something you don't want to happen.


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But why Burn?! Burn.dek isn't even that good; at this point it's not even banning because it's good, it's banning because you just don't like it. And yeah, I'm looking at Exodia, because even a rogue tournament Exodia won't win.


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leaving this club, s*** turned out exact opposite of what i thought, i ain't running bad gimmicky rogue decks with s*** techs from generations afar. GG, i'm out.

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Just stating TCG, Exodia, and Kozmo would be good enough; and even then, Kozmo isn't exactly unbeatable. Also, who even uses Quantum?

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Just stating TCG, Exodia, and Kozmo would be good enough; and even then, Kozmo isn't exactly unbeatable. Also, who even uses Quantum?

wanna get wrecked by turn 1 4 mat magnus ? super quantums are pretty subpar and see good play even though they still aint exactly "meta"


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wanna get wrecked by turn 1 4 mat magnus ? super quantums are pretty subpar and see good play even though they still aint exactly "meta"

No Quantum player I've seen lasts more than three turns. Your experience may be different.

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My Suggestion: Everyone plays Dice Jar burn. That Six is banned.


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Exodia isn't a problem, what the problem is most of the exodia build are FTKExodia.dek, that's the issue, even if it's not a meta, it's a deck that ignore 1v1 interactions, hell, not really something you wanna face.

 

Burn and Majes, okay it's my personal hatred against them, but who wants to duel with them? Also Majes is one of those "youcantplayygo.dek". But again, your choice not mine.

 

wanna get wrecked by turn 1 4 mat magnus ? super quantums are pretty subpar and see good play even though they still aint exactly "meta"

Ever heard of Kaiju? Lava Golem? side them and have a nice rest.

 

This is getting nowhere isn'it? Let's wait for cr47t.


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Ever heard of Kaiju? Lava Golem? side them and have a nice rest.

 

Have you ever heard of mask of restrict ? and good luck if that is your only strategy against me or anyone else playing quantums, would love to prove you wrong on dueling network if you are up for it lol


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Lol I was about to post when you posted Kanashi + Indra.
But anyway;
What I was trying to do with banning those decks was to try to prevent decks that either disencourage 1v1 player interaction, are too broken in the current format and meta, or are designed to otk.

From what I gather from the posts I have failed to do that without starting a large arguement, because I feel like I caused an uproar by being too specific.
I think it is OK to run some of the meta decks if you also add another engine to it, excluding the ones that don`t use 1v1 player interaction. because if you are using those it might as well be solitare.

I believe I will leave it at that, if that is OK w/ you guys.

 

EDIT: Still TCG only though, please, seeing that many OCG cards are a lot more broken.


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limited to TCG still makes us (or me) miss on a lot of techs and cards ? i think it should be tcg/ocg for the first couple of tourneys and then see the results and decide from there.


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Have you ever heard of mask of restrict ? and good luck if that is your only strategy against me or anyone else playing quantums, would love to prove you wrong on dueling network if you are up for it lol

 

Ever heard of Mystical Space Typhoon? Twin Twister?

 

Personally, I think we should just use current TCG banlist but tell everyone to play "mediocre/non-meta decks" on grounds of having some versatility and having some casual fun. Would be much more fair than having a banlist that decapitates every good deck.

 

In my opinion, if someone does want to play Magicians or Monarchs or something, good for them. Not going to stop me trying Dice Jar burn or Geargia roid.


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just lets settle this by ruling out top 3 decks of both TCG and OCG and let this rule remain for a few tourneys and see from there ?

Oh and Tyretian have you ever heard of getting wrecked ?


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just lets settle this by ruling out top 3 decks of both TCG and OCG and let this rule remain for a few tourneys and see from there ?

 

Well a lot of people are going to disagree what each of those decks are (except maybe for kozmo because we all know thats op)

So looking at the last few posts, I an going to change the banlist again, and I hope this settles this dispute.

New banlist:

-Please, do not use any decks that either disencourage player interaction (ex. exodia), decks that can otk very easily (ex. kozmo).

-Also, please do not use a pure top tier deck or pure rogue deck. This means if you do run one that does not break the above rule, please mix it with another engine for some variety.

 

Does this work with all you guys?


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Lol I was about to post when you posted Kanashi + Indra.
But anyway;
What I was trying to do with banning those decks was to try to prevent decks that either disencourage 1v1 player interaction, are too broken in the current format and meta, or are designed to otk.
From what I gather from the posts I have failed to do that without starting a large arguement, because I feel like I caused an uproar by being too specific.
I think it is OK to run some of the meta decks if you also add another engine to it, excluding the ones that don`t use 1v1 player interaction. because if you are using those it might as well be solitare.
I believe I will leave it at that, if that is OK w/ you guys.

EDIT: Still TCG only though, please, seeing that many OCG cards are a lot more broken.

This does prevent shit like Cyber Dragon Infinity engines.

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CDI is beautiful, definitely going cyber drags if against nyx lol, but yeah cr47t, the top 3 decks of ocg were pepe, ba and monarch but yeah yr idea will work fine.


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-Also, please do not use a pure top tier deck or pure rogue deck. This means if you do run one that does not break the above rule, please mix it with another engine for some variety.

 

Can I just ask what you mean by a "rouge deck"? Because afaIk a rouge deck was simply a deck that was good but not good enough to be top tier.


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1-5 banned is fine by me, (im fine with any banlist), i have other 60+ decks ready to use as exchange.

 

So we are prevented to use e.g pure HERO decks (rogue?)? are we permitted to use HAT? (since it's a mish-mash of multiple archetypes)


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CDI is beautiful, definitely going cyber drags if against nyx lol

Do it and get Solemn Noticed.

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1-5 banned is fine by me, (im fine with any banlist), i have other 60+ decks ready to use as exchange.

 

So we are prevented to use e.g pure HERO decks (rogue?)? are we permitted to use HAT? (since it's a mish-mash of multiple archetypes)

 

Well, there are a lot of kinds of HERO decks so I guess I will allow those, unless it becomes a problem.

Can I just ask what you mean by a "rouge deck"? Because afaIk a rouge deck was simply a deck that was good but not good enough to be top tier.

A rogue deck is basically a really good/top tier deck that seems to suddenly come out with no advance notice or whatever. (ex. yang zing, infernoids) At least, that is my understanding of it.

 

Also Aman Indra, Are you still in UDY or not? I dont know even though you said you were leaving but you then said my idea was ok.


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