Yuuji Kazami Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 My first post as a cardmaker, although not my first custom card. Still tinkering with the other ideas I have. I'm pretty sure this card is balanced, given the Summoning condition and its effects in my opinion. Any reviews will be thankful. Similar to Apoqliphort Towers's effect, except with Star Eater's Summon negation prevention. Harsh Summoning condition, and cannot be Summoned by other ways. Not as powerful as Horakhty, but also contains its own auto-win condition. Nuke last resort with Eraser, check. Damage Step protection with Avatar, check. Dreadroot backup, check. Unsure parts: "When this card has no Xyz Material, You win the game." Did I forget to add an "attached" word after Material? Changing Nebulus's Attack to ? instead, and alter its effect to also include the addition of the Xyz Material's original Attack as well as its effects. Thanks. ----Supports: [spoiler=Cards]Backups for Nebulus:Took another hour or two to think of these. 7 cards in about 5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BGMCANN0N Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hate to break it to you, but this is one of those cards that has a virtually impossible Summoning condition: as all The Wicked Gods require 3 tributes, and can't be special summoned... Getting one out is hard enough: you're a better off just getting out a Wicked God and going from there. And it isn't entirely immune either... It can still be Kaiju'd or Santa Claw'd or be attacked over via Honest/ Kalut/ Crane or a Moon Mirror Shield equipped monster. Though these counters aren't as common; it would be terrible if someone did that to him after all the effort of tributing 9 cards to get all 3 of The Wicked Gods just to make this guy. I think you should get rid of his ludicrous, exclusive Summoning condition and just make him accessible with 3 Level 10's, at the very least Trains could make him. And if you want maybe you could add an effect where you can Special Summon him in a way that you can just overlay 1 of The Wicked's on the field, and attach 2 of the others from the hand to give him some exclusiveness. Now if you were to make these changes... You might have to tone down the effect a little like make him only be able to detach on your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hate to break it to you, but this is one of those cards that has a virtually impossible Summoning condition: as all The Wicked Gods require 3 tributes, and can't be special summoned... Getting one out is hard enough: you're a better off just getting out a Wicked God and going from there. And it isn't entirely immune either... It can still be Kaiju'd or Santa Claw'd or be attacked over via Honest/ Kalut/ Crane or a Moon Mirror Shield equipped monster. Though these counters aren't as common; it would be terrible if someone did that to him after all the effort of tributing 9 cards to get all 3 of The Wicked Gods just to make this guy. I think you should get rid of his ludicrous, exclusive Summoning condition and just make him accessible with 3 Level 10's, at the very least Trains could make him. And if you want maybe you could add an effect where you can Special Summon him in a way that you can just overlay 1 of The Wicked's on the field, and attach 2 of the others from the hand to give him some exclusiveness. Now if you were to make these changes... You might have to tone down the effect a little like make him only be able to detach on your turn.I see, thanks for the feedback. I had initially thought of creating support cards for Wicked Gods as well, so that was my purpose for the summoning condition. Guess Fanfiction ideas took control, lol. I had also considered hand traps, but not forced tribute. Theoretically, let's say I change its effect to 3 Level 10's. Auto-win condition would obviously make it Once per turn, and that would even it out more. But I need to drop the Attack to... less than 3500 for sure. Maybe 3100 Attack. I like the idea with 1 Wicked God and grabbing the Xyz Material from elsewhere. How about 2 "The Wicked" monsters instead, while a forced Xyz Material attachment of a "The Wicked" monster from Hand, Deck, or Graveyard? I don't know about including Banished Zone as well though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BGMCANN0N Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yeah when you get the chance to post your Wicked God support on multiples. I'll re-review this again. But, until then.. My thoughts are pretty solid. As this guy is pretty hard to get out. If you do the 3 Level 10's then yeah the train of thought on the "Once per turn" detachment idea is good as it gives your opponent some time to try and counter him before he pulls off the win condition. And lessening the attack won't make too huge of a difference in most cases when @ >3100 ATK. But, if you feel the need to lessen it 3100 then go for it. If you go with 2 "The Wicked" monsters and a forced attachment from the said areas... You might have to start showing some of that Wicked God support as that is still 2 sets of 3 Tributes, and if you made this require 3 Level 10's... It would still be less of an incentive to make this guy with "The Wicked" monsters. I say this guy would have a better time if you only had to have 1 of "The Wicked" monsters on the field and 2 of the forced attachments of the other Wicked's from either the hand or the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yeah when you get the chance to post your Wicked God support on multiples. I'll re-review this again. But, until then.. My thoughts are pretty solid. As this guy is pretty hard to get out. If you do the 3 Level 10's then yeah the train of thought on the "Once per turn" detachment idea is good as it gives your opponent some time to try and counter him before he pulls off the win condition. And lessening the attack won't make too huge of a difference in most cases when @ >3100 ATK. But, if you feel the need to lessen it 3100 then go for it. If you go with 2 "The Wicked" monsters and a forced attachment from the said areas... You might have to start showing some of that Wicked God support as that is still 2 sets of 3 Tributes, and if you made this require 3 Level 10's... It would still be less of an incentive to make this guy with "The Wicked" monsters. I say this guy would have a better time if you only had to have 1 of "The Wicked" monsters on the field and 2 of the forced attachments of the other Wicked's from either the hand or the Graveyard.I just thought maybe decreasing it the Atk to 3100 would make it more vulnerable, as opposed to a 4k beatstick who has the effect of Apoqliphort Towers plus his Xyz effect. Then again, maybe I'm just over gauging the abilities of Trains, lol. I originally meant the card to be a Wicked God support after all, since they're the only set of cards to not receive a boss monster. It's hard to decide since I'm trying to make the card look as good as possible. Scrunched up texts on cards are just... yuck. I'm a little unsure on the 1 Wicked and then 2 forced attachment. That would be new, but Xyz is usually two monsters for one before Xyz Evolution Change... But yeah, I'll get started on the support ideas I have. It would greatly help the Wicked Gods out from their harsh summoning condition, and then Nebulus's Xyz summon wouldn't be that impossible to make. Erm... Since I'm new, would you know if I'm allowed to post more cards in one topic as replies, or do I have to make another topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 As the above user mentioned, you're better off just keeping whatever Wicked God you make on the field and go from there, as opposed to requiring the entire trinity. If this support is meant to make the requirements easier, then perhaps I could see the need for the specific requirement; right now, we only have the Wicked Gods to work from and they're all strict-3 Tribute monsters. Depending on how the support works, either it'll still be difficult to use or if you made low Level monsters that can become 10s, this card becomes crazy. Once you make the support, I'll give this another look. As some sort of consolation, I suppose D/D's could use Astral Force on Kali Yuga to go into this or something if they wanted to. Either that, or some Rank 5 spam Deck using Xyz Universe with 2 [used up] R5s. Both are gimmicky, but are somewhat more reliable options to going into this at present. -----Its alt. win effect is very similar to that of Number 88 (though without the counter business, since the card itself is already immune to everything; well, except if Skill Drain already exists on the field before you even get this out). -----Answering your question, you can add more cards to this topic (and it's advised you keep all related cards in one thread), but then I'll move it to Multiples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 As the above user mentioned, you're better off just keeping whatever Wicked God you make on the field and go from there, as opposed to requiring the entire trinity. If this support is meant to make the requirements easier, then perhaps I could see the need for the specific requirement; right now, we only have the Wicked Gods to work from and they're all strict-3 Tribute monsters. Depending on how the support works, either it'll still be difficult to use or if you made low Level monsters that can become 10s, this card becomes crazy. Once you make the support, I'll give this another look. As some sort of consolation, I suppose D/D's could use Astral Force on Kali Yuga to go into this or something if they wanted to. Either that, or some Rank 5 spam Deck using Xyz Universe with 2 [used up] R5s. Both are gimmicky, but are somewhat more reliable options to going into this at present. -----Its alt. win effect is very similar to that of Number 88 (though without the counter business, since the card itself is already immune to everything; well, except if Skill Drain already exists on the field before you even get this out). -----Answering your question, you can add more cards to this topic (and it's advised you keep all related cards in one thread), but then I'll move it to Multiples.Thank you. ^_^ I'm not aiming for anything ridiculous, I'm merely trying to make the Wicked Gods more consistent and enjoyable as they lack the support. Most of these will be S/T's as opposed to monsters. (E.G. A version of Monarchs Stormforth except allowing the tribute of two of the opponent's monsters, except they can only be used as tribute for a "The Wicked" monster.) I guess Monarchs will be my current inspiration for support, but I'll think of twists. Thanks for telling me about the rules for posting multiples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted February 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Kk, here comes some support. I think these are all the deck needs to be consistent and powerful. Add 3 copies of Reasoning, 1 copy of One for One, 1 copy of One Day of Peace, Upstart Goblins, etc. and it'll be extremely viable in meta. Here are the supports that I cranked out in a few hours: [spoiler=Cards] Backups for Nebulus: Took another hour or two to think of these. 7 cards in about 5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 In the future, keep all of the cards in the main posts so it's easier for us to look for them. (I've moved them for you) And as I mentioned, thread's going in Multiples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuji Kazami Posted February 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 In the future, keep all of the cards in the main posts so it's easier for us to look for them. (I've moved them for you) And as I mentioned, thread's going in Multiples. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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