TF2_The_Scout Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Gem-Knight Seraphinite's OPT clause. Is that a hard OPT or a soft OPT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Gem-Knight Seraphinite's OPT clause. Is that a hard OPT or a soft OPT?If you have a face-up Seraphinite and conduct 2 Normal Summons, but then Special Summon another Seraphinite, you won't be able to go for a 3rd Normal Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 There are different types of extra normal summons. The ones that are worded as a continuous effect such asSeraphiniteSymphonic Warrior MiccsBrain Research LabMausoleum of WhiteBlackwing - Nothung the Starlightand many more, all prevent each other from working. Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Gem-Knight Seraphinite's OPT clause. Is that a hard OPT or a soft OPT?"Hard OPT" typically refers to card effects that can only be used once per turn across all cards with that name. "Soft OPT" typically refers to card effects that can only be used once per turn for each individual card. (This also means that, for example, if a Monster Card you control with a "soft OPT" effect leaves the field and later returns to it, it can once again use its "soft OPT" effect because it's considered a different monster, even if it already used that effect the last time it was on the field.) "You can only gain this effect once per turn" on additional Normal Summon/Set effects restrict those effects to only being used once per turn across all card effects that have "You can only gain this effect once per turn." The associated card names don't matter. These card effects are all ones that grant an additional Normal Summon/Set.  There are different types of extra normal summons. The ones that are worded as a continuous effect such asSeraphiniteSymphonic Warrior MiccsBrain Research LabMausoleum of WhiteBlackwing - Nothung the Starlightand many more, all prevent each other from working. Does that make sense?There are ones that aren't from Continuous Effects, like Ritual Beast Tamer Elder's and Swap Frog's. (Miccs's in particular isn't either.) See for which kinds of additional Normal Summon/Set effects stack with each other: https://ygorganization.com/doublesummonlist/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I know that Elemental HERO WIldheart bypasses Negate Attack's end the battle phase clause along with the rest of it, but what about a similar effect that negates an attack without targeting the attacking monster, and then does something? Assuming a precedent for this exists. In generic terms, if a monster is unaffected by card effects, can you apply a "Negate the attack and [do something]" effect to it as long as you don't target it? Let me ask a specific question:Can you negate the attack of Raidraptor - Ultimate Falcon with Number 39: Utopia, since Utopia doesn't target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Can you negate the attack of Raidraptor - Ultimate Falcon with Number 39: Utopia?no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Can Dragon's Mirror summon something like Nethersoul Dragon that lists "2 Zombie-Type monsters"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuriena Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Can Dragon's Mirror summon something like Nethersoul Dragon that lists "2 Zombie-Type monsters"?I'm assuming you're asking this question because Dragon's Mirror says "Fusion Materials listed on it," and you've gathered that Fusion Materials listed on a Fusion Monster Card aren't considered listed on them if they aren't listed as a card name, with cards like King of the Swamp, Elemental HERO Prisma and Fusion Conscription only dealing with Fusion Materials whose names are specifically listed on Fusion Monster Cards. The above cards, and some others, have received errata to specify "1 Fusion Material whose name is specifically listed on that card" (in King of the Swamp's case). This clarifies that any Fusion Materials listed on a Fusion Monster Card are in fact considered to be listed on it when card text says "Fusion Materials listed on a Fusion Monster Card," as long as there are no further specifications like the above cards'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 What would happen if two monsters with the effect "If this card battles an opponent's monster, negate that monster's effects until the end of the Damage Step" battled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 What would happen if two monsters with the effect "If this card battles an opponent's monster, negate that monster's effects until the end of the Damage Step" battled?Give an example of which cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I don't think there are any such, it was a hypothetical question related to custom cards. A situation like this may be why there isn't one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÆƵ– Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I woukd think SEGOC would take effect here, meaning that the non-turn player's monster would resolve first. However, that hypothetical effect seems to not even have an activation, Sooo idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I see. Thank you for clearing it up. And here I was pondering if Shaddoll Winda could be a good call for the current OCG format. Thankfully, El Shaddoll Fusion is at 3 in OCG, but still, Shaddoll Fusion being stoppable by Ghost Ash will be an inconvenience.Yes, you can bait out a Ghost Ash usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Is the trick that Darj describes in this thread legitimate? Could you call Creator God to get out Horakthy for an instawin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Is the trick that Darj describes in this thread legitimate? Could you call Creator God to get out Horakthy for an instawin?Yes. Just Plaguespreader putting Holakhty on the top, then Special Summon ignoring the summoning conditions. The player that Special Summons Holakhty wins the duel. Also, it needs a HOPT on that summon condition to stop loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 In the case of Tail Swipe, does "choosing" your opponent's monsters target them? The text uses "target" and "choose" together, so I am confused on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 In the case of Tail Swipe, does "choosing" your opponent's monsters target them? The text uses "target" and "choose" together, so I am confused on this.In the case of Tail Swipe, no. Targeting means choosing a card or cards at the time the card/effect is activated. When you activate Tail Swipe, you choose 1 Level 5 or higher Dinosaur-type monster you control. Because this choice is made at the moment the card is activated, it is called targeting. Then, when Tail Swipe resolves, you make another choice as to which of your opponent's monster(s) you should return to the hand. Because this choice was made when the effect resolved, rather than when it activated, it is not considered targeting. Hope I cleared things up for you! If you are still confused, just tell us what specifically you find confusing (if you can!), and we'll try to help. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Can I use Babysaurus's effect if I destroy it to summon True King Lithosagym, the Disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Can I use Babysaurus's effect if I destroy it to summon True King Lithosagym, the Disaster?Yes you can. It's how TK Dinos is a thing atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 What does Decode Talker mean when it says "min. 2"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 What does Decode Talker mean when it says "min. 2"?Decode Talker requires three effect monsters normally, but link monsters count as their link value for link summons. For example, if you were to (for some reason) go Decode Talker -> Decode Talker, it would count as three effect monsters, fulfilling the requirement by itself, but Decode Talker requires a minimum of 2 monster ("min. 2"), so you'd need to use another effect monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Links require a number of monsters equal to their Link number, and a Link itself counts as a number of monsters equal to its Link Number. So, to prevent one Link 3 from being swapped for another, you're required to use at least 2 actual physical monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Decode Talker requires three effect monsters normally, but link monsters count as their link value for link summons. For example, if you were to (for some reason) go Decode Talker -> Decode Talker, it would count as three effect monsters, fulfilling the requirement by itself, but Decode Talker requires a minimum of 2 monster ("min. 2"), so you'd need to use another effect monsterI'm not sure if this is what you meant to say, but it sort of sounds like you want to use Decode Talker and 1 other monster to Summon Decode Talker. This is not possible, as Decode Talker can only be treated as either 1 monster or 3 monsters, you must use a Link-2 monster or 2 other Effect Monsters if you want to use Decode Talker to Summon another Decode Talker. You cannot exceed the Link Number of the monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Can you activate a set Gateway to Chaos if you have no targets in Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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