Public Relations Moderator to be Announced

[Dad]

This job would more likely entail gathering information about what the environment and attitudes are like in the section, so as help the Dad (and the team as a whole) moderate in a way that serves the user base.

 

Which, to be clear, I have an actual interest in doing.

 

 

Mods, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Yes and no.  As Black said, it's an actual Moderator's position.  So it's more than that.  Clarified by Black a bit more above me.

 

Fusion is old as funk.

 

Gotta give it to Giga.

 

First of all, rude.  How dare you.  Second of all, you're a baby.  Respect your elders.  Third of all, is that your actual reasoning for voting ()?  

 

The PR Mod is a Mod Mod.

 

Like Night said during Summer, the team is slowly shifting towards moderators having roles more than sections, such as how I plan to handle the events and try to manage the team to a degree, plus trying to do PR to differing degrees of success.

 

Their duties will be, more or less:

Official mouthpiece.

Work to increase transparency, to lessen the feeling of "Shady dealings" between the mods.

Be a mod who is neutral ground, to listen to and help members out without fear of repurcussion, barring outright breaking the rules.

Team Member, helping to resolve and decide on issues and rules as they come up.

 

Honestly, there are two members I think really deserve this position, and I wouldn't be opposed to seeing us get a duo. We've had such happen many times in the past with mods, so if the team wanted to, I'd be game.

 

I hadn't considered a duo, but it's not something I'm opposed to.  And I think I know who I like for those positions, all things considered.  I'll keep my mouth shut for now, but I think we should talk more in detail.

 

EDIT:  Cleared up the OP.  It initially said the PR Mod position would perform "some" mod duties.  This has been corrected to show "standard" mod duties.  Meaning any and all abilities that I, Black, or Roxas would be capable of performing.

[Simping For Hina]

Okay, here we go:

 

I remember when Fusion was at the height of his career, when I was a noob. I looked up to him. He was an idol. A person of the people. But that was when he was at his peek. Now, he kind of isn't around and doesn't really get involved. The PR person should be someone who both connects with the members and has at least been involved at the big and smaller events, which Giga has always been around for. I love Fusion, but he isn't fit the role since he hasn't been around for it all.

 

Giga is better suited because he has consistently been here through each event and witnessed. He knows what people are into, apart of, and doesn't need to connect with anyone since he already has done that. I could write more, but I wrote over 10,000 words today. My vote is Giga.

[Yui]

NGL man, I think you should become a mod mod. But I'm skeptical you'd want a PR job that will likely involve settling debates debates. Do you really want this?

Yes. I kinda figured that was implied when I said I'd be willing to get used to and adjust to a section I'd previously voiced a strong distaste for. Besides, we need somebody to represent the growing band of weebs round here <3

 

Also I'm liking this talk of a duo modship. THE PLOT THICKENS!

[Krein]

Don't know if I'm able to suggest someone given how low my post count is, but even so, I'm going to nominate the Yuibie Yui. He's a friendly and approachable guy, more than the other people mentioned here, in my opinion. He's consistently active on the forums and will definitely be available throughout basically the entire day for anything because he has no life lmao. Yui also knows how to integrate new or hesitant members into the community, solve issues without much trouble, and get serious and steadfast when a problem needs to get nipped in the bud.

 

tl;dr Yui for mod.

[Sleepy]

I'd be fine with either of these:

 

Fusion: He's one of the most level-headed members I've seen at YCM throughout the years. He strikes me as somebody not easily swept by public consensus on topics. My only worry is I don't personally see Fusion around a lot so I don't actually know how active he is.

 

Giga: I support the above post nominating him, he is overall a very cool member. I think he's very eloquent and can be vocal when he needs to, among other things...

 

Cow: Cow is one of the friendliest members out there IMO, and probably the only nominee in this list I actually have chatted with more. 

 

Birdie: Because she seems like the most enthusiastic one about the subject. That alone makes it worth giving it a shot. I have a few kind of concerns... Most already addressed somewhere in the thread although I didn't read everything in detail (so I could come write my post)... but still, again, worth a shot and she'd have my support too.

[bury the year]

Of the three of Giga/Parentheses, Cow and Yui, Giga is the one with the best... uhh, temperament for this sort of job. My observations of him both on and off the site support this.

 

I throw my vote in for Giga.

[Fusion X. Denver]

For what it's worth, I also think ( ) could do well. The reason I didn't bring him up initially was because I only had a small gist of the off-screen stuff that happened with him and other members and I wasn't sure if it'd be another Striker situation where too many people would be against the idea. But seeing all these other members vouching for him in this thread makes me think my hesitation was a little unfounded. He's level-headed, can hold his own in an argument, and from what I can tell also has a good understanding of the community. Either him or Birdie would be a good choice in my book, or both if the duo idea's done.

[vla1ne]

ara? who said i wasn't in the runnings? 

 

all jokes aside, most of what's required of a mod has already been mentioned, so i suppose there's no need to follow up there. but were i to throw in a vote, my tops out of the ones listed are fusion, crab and birdie.

from what i know of fusion, he's literally evilfusion without the supermod powers. dude's been fair and balanced since i started here, and even when i disagreed with the dude, he's been pretty civil about said disagreements. those are qualities that i find admirable in any person, especially one who's aiming to be a moderator. that doesn't mean he'd be as fair while packing mod power, but that can be said of anybody really.

As for crab, those of you who've been in debates should already know, he's rather passionate, but very tempered, and i think he could bring that into the mods team as well. i don't know too many people that hate him, so that's another plus in his book. lastly, recently, crab's put in a lot of work attempting to get discussion going to improve the quality of the threads, he's made more than a few discussion relating to improvement of the sections and similar topics, which is something that both indicates transparency, and an openness to dialogue. a strong candidate imo.

birdies apparently got the most praise, and after reading the responses, i was simply swayed to his side. i don't know mch about birdie, we apparently reside in different sections. but he's gotten support from literally all sides, so i see no reason to say too much against him.

 

 

as for somebody who has not been nominated, i'd have to put tentacruel's hat into the ring. similar to fusion and crab, he's been both impartial, and rather open to dialoge and change. remaining neutral in polarizing issues (despite his own views) and pointing out when we take things too far in debates, he's shown himself to be a good person all around, and even if he can't really win at this point, he deserves a mention for the spot.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

This doesn't strike me as someone entirely willing to talk to both sides and act as a PR person (the lock more than the content). I would like to hear what Fusion's thought process was on the matter tho

 

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Guys fusion already turned down the position

[BANZAI!!!!]

Tfw you all forget about me... qq

 

Jokes aside, other than myself, i think the best choices for the job are birdie and/or cowcow (are we doing two? I'm kinda confused on that.)

 

I get that this is a moderator position, but its less about running a section and more about being the face of the mod team. It needs a good, personable communicator. Its not so much about clout or experience like it would normally be with electing a moderator.

 

Not to knock anyone else who's volunteered, but the two of them have the best temperment for this. They're the easiest to speak to. Both of them can handle being actual moderators while they're at it, too.

[Aerion Brightflame]

So my issue with the idea is that if the mod team has issues currently in grouping together effectively to make collective decisions, how likely is it that a new member will be able to consitently get sufficient information to help cool down any negative situations and decisions that arise?

 

Because there role will be cross communication between members and the mod staff from what I gather; A lot of the common sheet that it seems they have to deal with is stuff in the short term that escalates quickly. Do we think that whomever the new mod is will be able to step in frequently enough to cool these situations before sheet gets to out of hand given the relative difficulty of getting both sides stories.

 

Furthermore, if a situation blows out of hand due to the actions of a mod rather than a member will they be given authority to say 'X funked up, steps are being taken to ensure that it won't happen again' which may undermine the solidarity between the mod team if done, and will undermine there role if not done?

 

In fairness, I'm not exactly any active member, so my concerns may be unwarranted.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Personally against CowCow being the PR mod. Cowcow as PR mod would be effectively putting a leftie version me in that role. His old reporting habits and behavior in debates does not give me confidence in him for this role.

 

Stand by Birdie and Hina. Balanced and kind veterans both. Have trust and respect of both userbase and mod team

[Fusion X. Denver]

This doesn't strike me as someone entirely willing to talk to both sides and act as a PR person (the lock more than the content). I would like to hear what Fusion's thought process was on the matter tho

 

Sure. Personally speaking (not looking to get into a political discussion here since there'll be plenty future threads to do that, just expressing my viewpoint), Trump's administration has been deeply unsettling me the past week and that morning I saw that tweet and thought it was a spot-on summarization of how I've viewed his actions. I locked it because I've seen those statuses go downhill before and I didn't want to start any arguments.

 

Although in retrospect, I suppose there was little point in having posted and locked it, seeing all it got me was you rating me down a star and no real benefit brought to anyone else. If I was that bent on expressing my discontent, then I should have just said something regarding my feelings rather than dishing out viewpoints like they're facts without opening up an avenue for rebuttal. 

 

If I ever were to be a mod, you wouldn't have to worry about me disregarding your side. A big part behind the whole divide in the country right now is because most people aren't willing to listen to the opposing side. I usually disagree with 95% of what right-wing posters here say, but I value their input. Like, I still despise the electoral college and think it needs to be fixed, but there were good points brought up in that thread that made me reevaluate my stance. I may and probably will come to disagree with what those others may say in the future, but I would never deny their voice.

 

A status like that one is pretty uncharacteristic of me anyways, so for whoever would be concerned, that won't be a recurring trait. Been a weird week for me.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Sure. Personally speaking (not looking to get into a political discussion here since there'll be plenty future threads to do that, just expressing my viewpoint), Trump's administration has been deeply unsettling me the past week and that morning I saw that tweet and thought it was a spot-on summarization of how I've viewed his actions. I locked it because I've seen those statuses go downhill before and I didn't want to start any arguments.

 

Although in retrospect, I suppose there was little point in having posted and locked it, seeing all it got me was you rating me down a star and no real benefit brought to anyone else. If I was that bent on expressing my discontent, then I should have just said something regarding my feelings rather than dishing out viewpoints like they're facts without opening up an avenue for rebuttal. 

 

If I ever were to be a mod, you wouldn't have to worry about me disregarding your side. A big part behind the whole divide in the country right now is because most people aren't willing to listen to the opposing side. I usually disagree with 95% of what right-wing posters here say, but I value their input. Like, I still despise the electoral college and think it needs to be fixed, but there were good points brought up in that thread that made me reevaluate my stance. I may and probably will come to disagree with what those others may say in the future, but I would never deny their voice.

 

A status like that one is pretty uncharacteristic of me anyways, so for whoever would be concerned, that won't be a recurring trait. Been a weird week for me.

Well, that's a good enough response to get the star back at least 

 

Thank you for the polite response. 

 

Edit: For the record, I was more worried about the lock than the content. As someone from a family of staunch liberals, I'm no stranger to concern about the president. A mod (potentially) throwing out a politically debatable claim, then silencing dissent, was more what I was afraid of. Thank you for addressing my concerns.

[Urayne]

Fusion if willing.

>Liked by most as far as I know

>Good attitude

>Unlikely to be corrupt

>Kind/helpful

>Is goddamn Fusion

 

or me

I'd agree on you, cowcow...

 

You're really helpful

Nice to others,

And your damned liked by a lot

Not to mention your non-piss off attitude (meaning its damn good)

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Don't think the person's been mentioned yet.

 

Polar Ice.

 

From the posts I see on debates and general and such, I think he(gonna assume, correct me if you must) is one of the more intelligent members on the site. He's very civil, compared to Winter who I personally don't have a problem with as a member myself but is too unliked and most likely unfitting to serve well as a PR mod. More importantly, he doesn't kiss mod ass all the time, which I consider important, without being overly hostile with them, at least not that I've seen. For a PR guy it's important to be willing to communicate well with the people you're meant to convey their intentions to other people, but I don't believe they need to be overly friendly. As I've seen on Debates, he's already willing to do that.

 

He would not get my vote for an actual modship position because sometimes I feel his morals get in the way (like his disapproval of Giga's rant in that guy's thread, the one who left, can't remember his name) but as a PR mod? I think he'd be a decent pick. Do tell if there's some issue I missed that would make him unsuitable.

As for crab, those of you who've been in debates should already know, he's rather passionate, but very tempered, and i think he could bring that into the mods team as well. i don't know too many people that hate him, so that's another plus in his book. lastly, recently, crab's put in a lot of work attempting to get discussion going to improve the quality of the threads, he's made more than a few discussion relating to improvement of the sections and similar topics, which is something that both indicates transparency, and an openness to dialogue. a strong candidate imo.

 

Thank you for the thoughtful words. I have given them consideration, and these are my conclusions.

 

I am glad that this position is being drawn up, as I consider moderator-member relations of the utmost importance. I believe that moderators and members are co-dependent and that neither should assume "final say" when the nature of communication is ongoing.

 

While I am satisfied with my current powers to moderate and liaise where necessary (speech), I would be interested in accessing the mod forum to better communicate with the mod team on behalf of members and with members on behalf of the mod team. If a variant of this position could be created without the power or responsibility to warn, ban, or lock, namely a "Public Relations Member" rather than a "Public Relations Moderator", I would be interested in such a position. 

 

If not, I am happy to be a normal member. Regardless of my position or perspective, I will always have an active interest in facilitating communication between parties where a lack of it exists. 

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Tfw you all forget about me... qq

 

Jokes aside, other than myself, i think the best choices for the job are birdie and/or cowcow (are we doing two? I'm kinda confused on that.)

 

I get that this is a moderator position, but its less about running a section and more about being the face of the mod team. It needs a good, personable communicator. Its not so much about clout or experience like it would normally be with electing a moderator.

 

Not to knock anyone else who's volunteered, but the two of them have the best temperment for this. They're the easiest to speak to. Both of them can handle being actual moderators while they're at it, too.

 

The mention of having two PR mods was brought up, yes, but somewhat like the General mod stuff from 2014 (well, before we looked over and decided to promote one at a time instead of two at once), need to check if the pairing that gets picked can work together (both with each other and with the rest of us; also if they can handle themselves when needed).

 

For now, we are considering two (least in terms of best pairings, and general overview of the members you're bringing up to us), but if that changes due to circumstances, you will all be given advance notice. 

 

 

Your input is greatly appreciated in determining how you all want YCM to be. 

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

It records purchases and uses. He bought the bys but didn't redeem it (according to the records at least), and is now banned. However with it being YCM it's possible it just didn't display it, but Halu just redeemed one and there was no issue. Also, he is still online and his account is viewable, where Winter's is not.

 

Perhaps he has colluded with a mod to dupe us. Or he has actually been banned.

 

I think I speak for much of the active member base when I say we need public relations right now more than ever. Can someone make some sort of statement regarding Winter?

 

I've got to peace for a few hours, but here's hoping the smoke clears.

[VCR_CAT]

I think I speak for much of the active member base when I say we need public relations right now more than ever. Can someone make some sort of statement regarding Winter?

 

I've got to peace for a few hours, but here's hoping the smoke clears.

 

he banned himself for one hour.

[Blake]

We are discussing both duos and individual merits at the same time. Out of 7 team members, we've had no objections to a duo, but the matter of mechanic between the two members is important.

 

As of this time, we have 3 major candidates, but other names are still being tossed around, not counting those who have ducked out (Polaris, Fusion), and a member we previously didn't find to be a good fit for the role.

 

While I can't speak for the team as a whole, I'd be willing to give my opinion on the candidates.

 

So my issue with the idea is that if the mod team has issues currently in grouping together effectively to make collective decisions, how likely is it that a new member will be able to consitently get sufficient information to help cool down any negative situations and decisions that arise?

 

Because there role will be cross communication between members and the mod staff from what I gather; A lot of the common sheet that it seems they have to deal with is stuff in the short term that escalates quickly. Do we think that whomever the new mod is will be able to step in frequently enough to cool these situations before sheet gets to out of hand given the relative difficulty of getting both sides stories.

 

Furthermore, if a situation blows out of hand due to the actions of a mod rather than a member will they be given authority to say 'X funked up, steps are being taken to ensure that it won't happen again' which may undermine the solidarity between the mod team if done, and will undermine there role if not done?

 

In fairness, I'm not exactly any active member, so my concerns may be unwarranted.

We actually do gain a way to deal with short AND long term events through this, but it's not in the fact they're PR Mods, outright.

 

This position isn't really intended to solve the EXPLOSION RAWR events, as those aren't something that can easily be handled by people on a forum. Different timezones, schedules, and so on. We'd need an entire team of PR Mods for that to work.

 

This is about improving clarity and discourse between the team and the members, while also putting more decisionmakers on the team, which helps in the long term, sometimes making it go from long term to short term. Both sides come out better than before, provided the choice(s) work out.

 

They're also there to be neutral moderators to express opinions to, namely through PM, so that you have no fear of I DON'T LIKE X MOD NOW THEY HATE ME RIP. Anonymity in this regard is key.

 

FTR, Kook and I have already done the "X funked up" thing, so yeah, they can do that. That's nothing to worry about, we certainly don't let things go unhandled. Public discourse would be up to the PR Mod(s), I'd imagine.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

He bought a Ban Yourself for 1 Hour, didn't use it, then got a mod to ban him temporarily.

 

That's some pretty high-level jutsu right there. 

[Tourmaline]

We are discussing both duos and individual merits at the same time. Out of 7 team members, we've had no objections to a duo, but the matter of mechanic between the two members is important.

 

As of this time, we have 3 major candidates, but other names are still being tossed around, not counting those who have ducked out (Polaris, Fusion), and a member we previously didn't find to be a good fit for the role.

 

While I can't speak for the team as a whole, I'd be willing to give my opinion on the candidates.

 

What are your opinions?

[Blake]

My concerns with you mostly boils down to your very... capricious nature. I don't think you'd do a bad job in a moderating position (which is honestly how I feel about a number of the candidates), but I don't think a PR position with the intent of people seriously coming to you works out, with how non-seriously you treat everything/seem to do for your enjoyment.

 

I think you genuinely care, but I don't think you're approachable.

[Tourmaline]

My concerns with you mostly boils down to your very... capricious nature. I don't think you'd do a bad job in a moderating position (which is honestly how I feel about a number of the candidates), but I don't think a PR position with the intent of people seriously coming to you works out, with how non-seriously you treat everything/seem to do for your enjoyment.

 

I think you genuinely care, but I don't think you're approachable.

My capricious nature/part of my personality where I just do things for my enjoyment are both done utterly consciously and I have no issue or hesitance doing anything from toning them down to totally obliterating them while I would play the role of a moderator. I have a very strong sense of duty and responsibility and would be vicious in my path to excellence (in both approachability and proactivity).