Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 maybe an allure or two, but i don't recall shaddolls liking allure all that much since it banishes your cards.link good sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchro Maniac 10 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Could work, might as well auto scoop to Imperial order though. The idea is a cool for a couple of reasons. >Searchable God Removal in the form of fate>Easier Trish (Blue+Falco+LV5)>Easier Draw Power>Searchable Reborn (Life) The problems it runs into is mainly deck space and the contested normal. Normal Dolls are gonna run some combination of Math and Armageddon w/ techs of Monk maybe Now you have to factor in Blue-Boy I'd be fascinated if someone gets a build however Spellbook Shaddolls were the first thing I tried when I was looking to splash the engine in something. The key to keeping this hybrid consistent is to build it as a Shaddoll deck first and keep the Spellbook engine as minimal as possible while still capitalizing on the engine's benefits, mainly draw power via Rudra and the Grand Tower, deck thinning, and Fate's removal. It'd be really nice to have 3 Mathematician in this build especially, but oh well, Konami takes forever to bring cards down. The best part is that with the ridiculous amount of deck thinning and drawing, it's pretty easy to draw into the deck's "power spells," which is why I only have 1 Instant Fusion and 1 Mask Change II. It's actually a very good deck, especially against something like Zoodiac, but I'd imagine True Draco is a pretty tough matchup. Here's what I've been testing: Monsters (17):2 Armageddon Knight1 Glow-Up Bulb1 Mathematician1 Maxx "C"3 Shaddoll Beast2 Shaddoll Dragon2 Shaddoll Falco2 Shaddoll Hedgehog3 Shaddoll Squamata Extra (15):3 El Shaddoll Winda2 El Shaddoll Shekhinaga1 Masked HERO Dark Law1 Elder Entity Norden1 Leo, Keeper of the Sacred Tree1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier,1 Black Rose Moonlight Dragon1 Clear Wing Synchro Dragon1 Coral Dragon1 Armades, Keeper of Boundaries1 Abyss Dweller1 Castel, the Skyblaster MusketeerSpells (24):3 Allure of Darkness1 El Shaddoll Fusion1 Foolish Burial1 Instant Fusion1 Mask Change II1 Raigeki3 Shaddoll Fusion1 Soul Charge2 Spellbook of Eternity2 Spellbook of Fate1 Spellbook of Power2 Spellbook of Rudra3 Spellbook of Secrets1 Spellbook of the Master2 The Grand Spellbook Tower Deck space is tight. I unfortunately haven't been able to squeeze in Dark Hole, a 2nd Master, or Shaddoll Core, and it's already at 42 cards. A 3rd Rudra might also be ok, but I've never really felt like I needed it. Wisdom isn't good here, so don't bother...Life is also potentially pretty dead. If you want to try Spellbook Magician, I'd probably replace the Armageddon Knights with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Deck space is tight. I unfortunately haven't been able to squeeze in Dark Hole, a 2nd Master, or Shaddoll Core, and it's already at 42 cards. A 3rd Rudra might also be ok, but I've never really felt like I needed it. Wisdom isn't good here, so don't bother...Life is also potentially pretty dead. If you want to try Spellbook Magician, I'd probably replace the Armageddon Knights with him.Why not try bumping it up to 60 cards and using Grass? Could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchro Maniac 10 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Why not try bumping it up to 60 cards and using Grass? Could work.That would make little to no sense. I do not want all of the Spells in the Graveyard, nor all of the Shaddolls, especially since they're OPT. I could probably just cut a card or 2, but honestly there's not much wrong with 42 with all of the draw power here. Maybe cutting a Squamata and Mask Change could work, but that's not a must. Either way, I think Rudra (with the help of 3 Allure) actually made the deck playable. Summoner Monk is next on my testing agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Yeah you can basically play 1 secrets, 2 magician, 1 Duderah 1 secrets over the 1st copy of magician keeps the number of rudrahs and magician constant with respect to 3 magician and 1 rudrah. Only 1 less normal summon and if u playing spell counters you receive an extra counter Borrowing this idea, how about adding +1 Rudra and +1 Spellbook Tower to the engine?x2 Spellbook Magicianx2 Rudrax1 Secretsx1 Tower That way, you retain the ratio of Magician > Rudra, and Tower really puts up the pressure by giving you card draws; by using Secrets --> Rudra, you get 2 card draws if the opponent doesn't get rid of the Field Spell, and puts the Rudras back into the deck to grab them again later on. Also if your opponent decides to destroy it before you draw anything, then you may be able to Summon a Level1~3 Spellcaster (AFAIK it counts itself) with the float; at the very least you will have a target in Magician, for whatever that's worth, but depending on your deck and techs, stuff like Jowgen could be funny options. As for Shaddoll builds, I wouldn't rely too much on the Spellbook side due to the dedication it needs. Life and Master are unwieldy for requiring a Spellbook at hand, and Fate could be a tech, but still is difficult to set up. The engine above should do wonders for Shaddoll without cluttering the deck with Spellbooks. I have done some "consistency tests" with the following OCG deck, and so far it has not had major clogging issues, except when opening multiple Fusion Spells but no monsters and silly hands like that:[spoiler=]Monsters: 18x1 Dark Armed Dragonx2 Shaddoll Beastx1 Shaddoll Dragonx3 Squamatax1 Witch of Black Forestx1 Mathmanx2 Hedgehogx2 Falcox2 Spellbook Magicianx3 Maxx C Spells: 13x1 Instant Fusionx1 Harpie Feather Dusterx2 Spellbook of Rudrax3 Shaddoll Fusionx1 Dark Holex1 Foolish Burialx1 Spellbook of Secretsx2 El Shadoll Fusionx1 Spellbook Tower Traps: 9x2 Dark Renewalx1 BTHx1 Paleozoic Dinomischusx2 Dimensional Barrierx2 Solemn Strikex1 Solemn Judgment Extra Deck: 13x2 Sheky waifux1 Annoyingtyllisx3 Windyx1 Restricted Thousand Eyesx1 Trishyx1 Arcanine Magician (can also be Moonlight Rose, Clear Wing, Zeta, Yazi, etc. too, I guess)x1 Black Rosyx1 Coral Reefx1 Blazing Blade Durandalx1 Saint Aureax2 free slots for Links I'm being silly with Witch, Dark Armed, Dark Renewals and BTH but they can be replaced by Allure of Darkness if desired. It's just that Allure hasn't worked for me too well sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Tower is slow and super vulnerable to removal such as Cyclone and Master Peace, which can make it either no trigger or miss timing You're better off replacing Maxx given the top decks don't SS much right now. I wish we could find room for Life in the deck. It's an invaluable tool for easy Synchs and such Also you're bleeding powerspells, mainly Reborn, Soul Charge, and Avarice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Ah right, the power Spells that TCG doesn't have; just replace the silly techs like Witch, DAD, Renewal, etc. in the above build, really.Tower is vulnerable yes, but at least it's taking attention from other important cards. In a way I see it as errata'd Future Fusion: leave it on the field and it gets ugly. Or just don't run it xDx2 Magician, x2 Rudra and x1 Secrets should be good enough, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Ah right, the power Spells that TCG doesn't have; just replace the silly techs like Witch, DAD, Renewal, etc. in the above build, really.Tower is vulnerable yes, but at least it's taking attention from other important cards. In a way I see it as errata'd Future Fusion: leave it on the field and it gets ugly. Or just don't run it xDx2 Magician, x2 Rudra and x1 Secrets should be good enough, too.Depends, those techs can get you Blue boy and other cards you need Errata Future Fusion doesn't have many conditions. Have a fusion and survive, tower needs all that, can miss timing, needs spellcaster and a spellbook in grave I personally don't love it. Do you think we can fit in a life tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Depends, those techs can get you Blue boy and other cards you need Errata Future Fusion doesn't have many conditions. Have a fusion and survive, tower needs all that, can miss timing, needs spellcaster and a spellbook in grave I personally don't love it. Do you think we can fit in a life tho? I really don't think it's possible to play Life in Shaddolls consistently without dedicating about half a deck to Spellbooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I really don't think it's possible to play Life in Shaddolls consistently without dedicating about half a deck to Spellbooks.Hmm, so one Book in hand, and one spellcaster on board, it's difficult, but not sure it's impossible. Given the stuff you can do with it though, it might be worth that extra level of difficulty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Hmm, so one Book in hand, and one spellcaster on board, it's difficult, but not sure it's impossible. Given the stuff you can do with it though, it might be worth that extra level of difficulty 1 Spellbook in hand and 2 Spellcasters in grave, actually. In general it's not worth sacrificing your consistency for power plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 Spellbook in hand and 2 Spellcasters in grave, actually. In general it's not worth sacrificing your consistency for power plays.Hmm, r4nk and Omega was my thoughts really Esp if you can do something like banish Blue Boy to summon Witch and sync into Omega The memes must go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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