Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 V・HEROウィッチ・レイド Vision HERO Witch Raid (Vision HERO Witch Raider)Dark Warrior / EffectLV8 2700/1900You can Tribute Trap Cards for the Normal Summon of this card in face-up Attack Position.(1) When this card is Normal Summoned: You can destroy all Spell/Trap Cards your opponent controls. During the turn you activate this effect, you cannot Special Summon monsters, except “HERO” monsters. Imperial Order, Skill Drain, ASF, Macro, and Vanity come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Is this going to become a new thing? Tributing Spell/Traps? I mean, it would make Tribute Decks easier to work with, but still, seems a bit cheap sometimes. That being said, not sure what this adds to HEROes, and I got no idea what Vision HERO is about, so yeah, not much to say here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Rather than floodgates, better to play Traps that float to trigger them with this, IMO. Note that it's not bound to Tributing Continuous Traps, so it can trigger floating Traps that True Dracos cannot. inb4 teching True Dracos to take advantage of their Traps, and eventually a True Draco/Master Peace HERO variant is born xDPeace HEROes, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Rather than floodgates, better to play Traps that float to trigger them with this, IMO. Note that it's not bound to Tributing Continuous Traps, so it can trigger floating Traps that True Dracos cannot. inb4 teching True Dracos to take advantage of their Traps, and eventually a True Draco/Master Peace HERO variant is born xDPeace HEROes, anyone?Normal Stratos, Search, pop? Or pop Mist in hand? Could work We can also pop S/T like Future Fusion though :) DD Heroes might work given Voltic is a card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 if anything this is what Vision HERO should have be (the reverse version of it...but still can be tied in with the original manga mechanic) so yeah there hopes that they will release the rest oh V HERO that act like reverse Trap Monster as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Acid does it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 sadly CotH is too slow these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Normal Stratos, Search, pop? Or pop Mist in hand? Could work We can also pop S/T like Future Fusion though :) DD Heroes might work given Voltic is a card Uh, IDK about Voltic because its activation condition is too awkward and situational for current metas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Is it possible that this could tribute FD cards? I know rules for stuff like this can be weird, but I can't help but notice it doesn't specify face up only. If it can, it could actually be used in Paleozoic, or something along those lines. Also note you could technically just tribute two monsters for the summon. Unfortunately, even then it is a little underwhelming. 27 isn't a terribly impressive body, it requires use of the normal summon, and a duster isn't the most amazing effect. Compounded with its clause preventing use of non hero monsters for the turn, it seems that even at its best, the card isn't too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Is it possible that this could tribute FD cards? I know rules for stuff like this can be weird, but I can't help but notice it doesn't specify face up only. If it can, it could actually be used in Paleozoic, or something along those lines. Also note you could technically just tribute two monsters for the summon. Unfortunately, even then it is a little underwhelming. 27 isn't a terribly impressive body, it requires use of the normal summon, and a duster isn't the most amazing effect. Compounded with its clause preventing use of non hero monsters for the turn, it seems that even at its best, the card isn't too good. AFAIK it should be able to if True Dracos can use face-down Continuous Spell/Traps as Tribute.And I agree, the card on its own isn't too great; that's why IMO the key is using it as an enabler of floater Traps that can lead to a stronger punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Chaos Sonic Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 This is giving me even more hope for the level 4 Masked HERO monsters to be released.... As for the monster itself, it does seem like a Tribute Summoned version of Acid with the use of tributing Traps, so it gives me that sort of Uria vibe with that, but that's all. Other than that, I'm not seeing much of anything else that needs to be said. However the "SS only HERO monsters" when the effect is activated does sort of limit a person if they aren't using a lot of HEROs. Not much of else needs to be said, unfortunately. Unlike Vyon, it doesn't technically do much. For myself, if I wanted to blow up an opponent's S/Ts, I would go for my AZ to Acid combo and just wipe the field itself...so much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Unlike Vyon, it doesn't technically do much.To be fair, Vyon does everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Chaos Sonic Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 To be fair, Vyon does everything. That's what I was saying, this compared to Vyon, doesn't do much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Escalation of the Monarchs + this is pretty cheeky (considering Escalation itself pays for half the cost), but yeah, there are easier ways to pull off a duster in HEROs. Question: bad combo aside, could you, say, activate Good Goblin Housekeeping and chain Escalation to it sending both to the Graveyard and have GGH resolve while in the Graveyard? I guess what I'm asking is if you have another trap that you activate, could you use it as tribute cost if you chain Escalation to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatMed Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Metalfoes HEROes ... eeem, that might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 What's sad is that this would bea half-decent Destiny HERO, due to being better than Dogma at the Level 8 Slot. But it's MANGA Aster's card, so rip that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Uh, IDK about Voltic because its activation condition is too awkward and situational for current metas.A banished Hero? Really? Macro pretty much makes that a non-issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 A banished Hero? Really? Macro pretty much makes that a non-issue No, inflicting battle damage with only 1000 base ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Escalation of the Monarchs + this is pretty cheeky (considering Escalation itself pays for half the cost), but yeah, there are easier ways to pull off a duster in HEROs. Question: bad combo aside, could you, say, activate Good Goblin Housekeeping and chain Escalation to it sending both to the Graveyard and have GGH resolve while in the Graveyard? I guess what I'm asking is if you have another trap that you activate, could you use it as tribute cost if you chain Escalation to it?Was gonna post Escalation of the MonarchsBoth kinda glad and a little miffed someone got there firstAlso that sounds like it should work, which is pretty hilarious, Xenophobia always makes me a little mad because it kills meems, but on the bright side this card manages to rise past that and have meems anyways (RIP using it with Paleos or True Monarch tho). Also for the record, True Dracos can use face-down Cont S/Ts, if that's any indication of whether or not this card can use face-down Traps.Which means it can trigger Abyss-Scorn??? And other pre-Artifact-trigger Traps that I don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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