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Beast-Warrior merging with Beast?


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I was looking at the New Types topic, and was wondering what would happen if Konami did cut down on the types by merging some with others. By making Wyrms Dragons, there would be a massive change in the meta, as both sides would have access to the support from the other, and the game would definitely not be the same for a while. However, I then started thinking about a problem I had earlier: If you had a Reptilian humanoid, would that be a Reptile, or a Beast-Warrior? Where do you draw the line between the different kinds of "beasts" and warriors? Perhaps just the fact that it isn't a mammalian creature makes it a Reptile, but the thought stuck.

 

What if all Beast-Warriors became Beasts?

 

Of course, this is almost definitely never going to happen, but it certainly intrigues me. Cards like Tenki would be able to search Level 4 or lower beasts, sure, but Beasts afaik have never been strong archetype wise, outside of that Level 2 lock deck you still see occasionally. Would the support given to beasts by Beast-Warriors make them too strong, and/or vice versa?

 

Thoughts?

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Wyrms were made specifically to curb the domination of Dragon as a type, so they're never really gonna merge are they.

 

I don't really see the point in new types being made, its just more stuff to remember. I've always thought that the best solution would be monsters having two types. That would be really funking cool and make a lot of sense when there's dispute as to what type a monster "should" be.

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Beasts don't have solid support like a standard ROTA and stuff, but on the other hand they have a few power or loopy cards like the Rescue archetype and Chain Dog; now imagine if those were to get all the support Beast-Warriors currently have... yeah.

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If that was the case, and using the example of "Beast-Warrior", I'd have to wonder if there'd be a difference between a card having support for "Beast/Warrior" as in specifying that one single Type combination, and if one saying "Warrior/Beast" in that reversed order wouldn't count. If primary vs secondary would be a thing. 

Just a thing that popped into my head. I guess they could have a standard list of what Types always get typed up first in dual type cards, for simplification.

 

On the subject, I don't think most types in the game have all that much support at all. Some have like 1 or 2 support cards that could be generically good, some have a few support cards that work on such a niche that it doesn't really matter that they are generic support because realistically only a certain deck or two will really wanna use them. So I don't think the impact will be all that big if at all if the change was made, but the game could work towards restricting their own card design through Type combinations in addition to other traits cards already have that would further shrink what cards support (on top of potentially niche effects). It'd move away from blatantly being all about "insert archetype name" themes which are easier to be left forgotten once your archetype stops being supported, without much hope for experimentation unless your archetype itself is a self-sufficient engine.....

 

I'd personally like the dual type idea, and this is independently of if people are tired of getting new types or not..... I'm personally also fine with new types sooooo yeah.

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I for one didn't think about discussing a merge of Aqua, Fish and Sea Serpent because the topic was on Beast + Beast-Warriors, but thinking about it...

- The 3 types would have their version of "Icarus Attack"-type +0 chainable Trap in Fish Depth Charge.

- Toadally would be more accessible, and Summonable by Deep Sea Diva for example.

- I can only imagine what Coelacanth would do for Atlanteans and Mermails, especially when the Atlanteans would be able to float from its discard.

- Possibly shenanigans with Swap Frog and its gained ability to mill Fish and Sea Serpents.

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Fish/Sea Serpent/Aqua being merged I would hate, because it's clumping a bunch of different things that could be different Types into 1 just because they live in or are related to water, which is what the WATER attribute exists for anyway. It would be a bit like forcing Shiranui, Igknights and Jurracs to be Pyro-Type just because they're fire related.

Fish and Sea-Serpent being merged into a Sea Creature-Type would make sense because Fish and Sea-Serpents are very similar, however Aqua-Type is more focused on actual Water Elementals (along with being a place to catch non-Fish, non-Sea Serpent water creatures, such as Frogs) so there's a bigger difference.

 

As for Beast-Warrior, I remember that I used to think my Wolf Axeweilder could be searched by Reinforcement of the Army and stuff back when I was younger.

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