[Erratum] C - Crush Wyvern

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C - Crush Wyvern

Level 4 LIGHT Machine-type/Union/Effect

Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 LIGHT Machine-Type monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it. A monster equipped with this card is unaffected by your opponent's Trap effects, also if the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: Activate this effect; you can Special Summon 1 Union monster from your hand.

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This is an anti-cheat erratum focusing on the possibility of C - Crush and either A - Assault or B - Buster being sent from the field to the graveyard simultaneously. Pre-errata, one could activate C's effect as chain link 1, and A or B's effect as chain link 2, and resolve backwards, adding a Union to hand and Special Summoning that same Union. This is all legal play as long as you had a Union in hand when you activated C's effect. 

 

The problem lies in confirming that that was the case. In the real world, you have to call over a judge every time this happens to confirm that they had a Union in hand, which is a nuisance. So, inspired by Gilasaurus' recent erratum, I made the effect compulsory so that it will always trigger, but the actual summon optional so that you don't give your opponent lots of free information should you not have a Union in hand.

[Darj]

IMO it would be more PSCT and ruling-friendly if it instead revealed the Union Monster in hand before Summoning it:

Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 LIGHT Machine-Type monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it. A monster equipped with this card is unaffected by your opponent's Trap effects, also if the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: Activate this effect; you can reveal 1 Union monster in your hand, and if you do, Special Summon it.

[Tinkerer]

^ That's... Kinda the opposite of what he wants. He doesn't want revealing at any level.

 

I think it's a fine fix. If you're gonna Special Summon the Union you searched, you'd be revealing it anyway, so it wouldn't really affect that so much. But yeah, to remove the hassle and keep cards to your chest, it works.

 

I do have to ask since I can't remember the ruling on this exactly: if the effect's activation is compulsory, doesn't it become a specific chain link? If that's true, I might say keeping both the activation timing and the effect itself optional.

[Darj]

^ That's... Kinda the opposite of what he wants. He doesn't want revealing at any level.

 

Not really. He doesn't want to show the entire hand to the opponent to prove that he has a Union Monster to Summon with Crush's effect. But, if Crush's effect include the revealing effect, he just have to reveal the monster he intents to Summon anyway, instead of the entire hand.

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I do have to ask since I can't remember the ruling on this exactly: if the effect's activation is compulsory, doesn't it become a specific chain link? If that's true, I might say keeping both the activation timing and the effect itself optional.

Yes, compulsory effects have to be chain link 1. If there are multiple compulsory effects, then they become chain links 1, 2, 3 etc. Then after all the compulsory effects have been put on chain, any optional effects may be activated. Once all the trigger effects are on the chain, any quick effects can be activated.

 

So I could word it

 

"If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can reveal 1 Union monster in your hand; Special Summon 1 Union monster from your hand."

 

and this would be changing how the card works, mechanically speaking, a lot less than my erratum did. You do already have to have a Union in hand to activate the effect, so your opponent already knows that. I personally prefer my erratum, specifically because it buffs Crush Wyvern to not require a Union in hand, and this allows certain combos that were not possible before, such as instant Decode Talker off Hangar + any monster on the field that didn't use your normal summon. 

[Darj]

and this would be changing how the card works, mechanically speaking, a lot less than my erratum did. You do already have to have a Union in hand to activate the effect, so your opponent already knows that. I personally prefer my erratum, specifically because it buffs Crush Wyvern to not require a Union in hand, and this allows certain combos that were not possible before, such as instant Decode Talker off Hangar + any monster on the field that didn't use your normal summon. 

 

My proposed erratum would still allow for such plays and flexibility, as it reveals along the Special Summoning effect, and thus you can still reveal whatever you added to the hand with A or B.

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My proposed erratum would still allow for such plays and flexibility, as it reveals along the Special Summoning effect, and thus you can still reveal whatever you added to the hand with A or B.

Your proposed erratum does nothing, since revealing a card from the hand at the exact same time you summon that same card from the hand is meaningless. It's no different from my erratum in the OP.

[Darj]

Your proposed erratum does nothing, since revealing a card from the hand at the exact same time you summon that same card from the hand is meaningless. It's no different from my erratum in the OP.

 

Oh, my mistake. From your reply on Tinkerer's reply I got the impression you wanted to integrate the "reveal" part in the effect.