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Bellringer Angel Newbie

Bellringer Angel

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Rules:

  • All Leaderboard rules apply
  • First to 3 votes or most votes by deadline wins.
  • All voters must elaborate on their votes or else the vote will be rejected.
  • Both contestants have the right to refuse votes, but must explain why they don't accept it.
  • Card C votes are allowed in case the voter thinks both cards don't deserve a vote but must elaborate on why he/she thinks so.
  • Cards must be PM'd to me.
  • Written cards are allowed.
  • Remove any evidence of the card being made by you to ensure anonymity
  • In case a downtime or an emergency happens, the deadlines may be extended.

Deadlines:

  • The deadline for cards is 48 hours after challenge has been accepted.
  • The deadline for votes is 96 hours (4 days) after cards have been posted.
  • In case of a challenger failing to meet the above deadline without explanation, the challenger slot will open up again, at which point it becomes first-come-first-serve between the previous challenger's and new submissions.

Rewards:

  • The winner gets a rep from the loser.
  • All voters get a rep for voting.

Requirements:

  • Create a pair of Pendulum Sea Serpents! (No-Link Format)

[spoiler=Card A]Atlantean Seahorse

Level 3 - WATER
Sea Serpent / Pendulum / Effect
Scale 8/8
Pendulum Effects
You cannot Pendulum Summon monsters, except WATER monsters. This effect cannot be negated. If a WATER monster(s) is Normal or Special Summoned to your field: You can give them 1400 ATK. You can only use this effect of "Atlantean Seahorse" once per turn. Unless you have an "Atlantean" card in your other Pendulum Zone, this card's Pendulum Scale becomes 4.
Monster Effects
If this card is sent to the Extra Deck or Graveyard to activate a WATER monster's effect: Activate 1 of these effects. You can use this effect of "Atlantean Seahorse" up to twice per turn.
● Target 1 face-up WATER monster on the field; equip this card to it. It is unaffected by your opponent's card effects, also it gains 1400 ATK for each Equip Card equipped to it.
● Place 1 "Atlantean Scout" from your Deck in your Pendulum Zone
ATK 1400 / DEF 0
 
Atlantean Scout
Level 1 - WATER
Sea Serpent / Pendulum / Effect
Scale 0/0
Pendulum Effects
You cannot Pendulum Summon monsters, except WATER monsters. This effect cannot be negated. You can discard any number of "Atlantean" monsters; add 1 WATER monsters from your Deck to your hand, whose Level equals the total Levels of the discarded monsters, and if you do, you can Special Summon this card from the Pendulum Zone. You can only use this effect of "Atlantean Scout" once per turn. Unless you have an "Atlantean" card in your other Pendulum Zone, this card's Pendulum Scale becomes 4.
Monster Effects
If this card is sent to the Extra Deck or Graveyard to activate a WATER monster's effect: Activate 1 of these effects. You can use this effect of "Atlantean Scout" up to twice per turn.
● Draw 1 card, and if you do, gain 800 LP.
● Place 1 "Atlantean Seahorse" from your Deck in your Pendulum Zone.
ATK 0 / DEF 800

 
[spoiler=Card B]
Giant Navy Seasnake
WATER

Level 4

1/1

Sea Serpent/Pendulum/Effect

Pendulum Effect: When you Pendulum Summon a Sea Serpent-type monster(s), place 1 Ocean Counter on that monster(s). Once per turn: You can have the Levels/Ranks of all monsters you control with Ocean Counters on them become equal to the number of Ocean Counters on them.

Card Effect: This card gains 100 ATK for each Ocean Counter on it. If this card has 3 or more Ocean Counters on it, it gains 200 ATK for each Ocean Counter instead. If this card is destroyed while it has Ocean Counters on it: You can redistribute its Ocean Counters among face-up Sea Serpent-type monsters you control.

1800/800

Giant Crimson Seasnake

WATER

Level 4

6/6

Sea Serpent/Pendulum/Effect

Pendulum Effect: When you Pendulum Summon a Sea Serpent-type monster(s), place 1 Ocean Counter on that monster(s). Once per turn: You can remove 3 Ocean Counters from among creatures you control; Add 1 Sea Serpent-type monster from your deck to your hand.

Card Effect: If this card with an Ocean Counter on it attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict Piercing Battle damage. If it has 3 or more Ocean Counters on it, inflict double Piercing Damage instead. If this card is destroyed while it has Ocean Counters on it: You can redistribute its Ocean Counters among face-up Sea Serpent-type monsters you control.

1800/800

 

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Flash Flyer - Sakura Newbie

Flash Flyer - Sakura

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(This probably has the record for longest period without a single vote in the modern era, but let's just end this with a vote of some sort)

 

Set A

 

I really don't know why you decided to support Atlanteans in this case, considering they're still doing fine with that hybrid version. At this point in time, you have literally given them more avenues to abuse their "trigger on discard effects". Yes, Seahorse is the generic WATER [well, for P-effects anyway] and the other one is strictly Atlantean, but still. Also giving them faster access to summon their key monsters.

 

Set B

 

Oh hi retrain of that vanilla from over a decade ago; let's see what you got.

 

Navy just powers up for every counter on it and does help with Xyz plays (well, would've if it let you use all of the counters on your board; not just ones on a monster). Given the current effect, you only get 1 counter on the monster and that's it. Then again, redistributing counters is a nice thing, but yeah, only 1 counter per monster, so...

 

Crimson at least gives them searching power, which is always helpful. (Although I'll need to ask if the creator of B was porting this from MtG or another game that uses "creatures" instead of monsters, because that's a mistake right there). Piercing isn't anything special, but guess it helps and all. Just like with Navy, unless you can mass Pendulum Summon, not going to have a lot of counters to trigger off of.

 

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With that being said, I have to vote card C.

  • A is literally "give Atlanteans more toys to play with in their hybrid build" (though yes, it does extend to other viable WATERs in general)
  • B is fine, but doesn't trigger how the creator intended for them, based on current wording.
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Ninjask Is Bae Newbie

Ninjask Is Bae

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First some general comentary.

Set A.

Good searching. ATK boosts that actually do something. Draws. Protection. Works well with the architype. Maybe a bit too versatile. The deck doesn't have pendulums so they might be hard to get out.

Set B.

I... What do they do? Honest question. The first card can make rank ones... that's it.

The second card can pierce. And it says it can search. But when will you have 3 Ocean Counters on something?

How often will you get 2 of these out? like. Seriously?

 

With that in mind. I'll vote A.

 

If anyone has a problem with my vote I'll take it back myself seeing as I haven't played Atlanteans myself. Only seen them be played. Also. I might have just misunderstood set B. But they sound very bad to me.

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Flash Flyer - Sakura

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In the case of B, given the wording, not very often (and there exist no Rank 1 Sea Serpents). I want to assume that they planned on it placing a counter for every Sea Serpent that got P-Summoned and/or already exists on the field; that would've seen more use. But it's 1-per-monster, so not going to help much. Chances of it happening are very slim.

 

Set A works, but in doing so, makes Atlanteans already enough of a pain to deal with (especially the hybrid versions, and said version gets a new toy in CIBR, though released after this 1v1 went up).

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Ninjask Is Bae Newbie

Ninjask Is Bae

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As a meta sheep. I have to say that dealing with Atlanteans (even if they had these cards) is not really a problem... Cards being meta doesn't make them boring. In fact, I find "Atlanteans" one of the least frustrating decks to face. I stand by my vote as I think Atlantean players would have a lot of fun with these cards but wouldn't frustrate the opponent seeing as they don't lock you out of anything and are pretty easy to out.

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