LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (Side note: its not stated in the rules because Im pretty sure its meant to be self explanatory, but i've always been of the assumption that quoting other characters' dialogue does count toward your 100 word minimum)I want to quote this in specific because of three things. 1. I don't think it should count. It's not adding anything to the RP and I could legit make 100 words of quotes and a single sentence response.2. It's not self explanatory because I actually asked Aix and Nai back when they were mods and they told me that quotes don't count. Hence why I want it to be put in the rules what is to be done with it.3. It's not a great idea to assume a rule is self explanatory unless something incredibly obvious and even then it's safest to include it. As to the rest....I like the splitting up the Database into sections, that could work well.I do worry about the Hall of Fame (Which like why wouldn't that be the name right there?) given the small amount (and smaller since AC) so it'd sort of be a barren place. In regards to helping people improve...honestly imo the best way to improve is for flaws to be pointed out, by the hosts of each RPs preferably (or the mod), and...well practice.Perhaps we should have some intentionally shorter RPs created? RPs with, and this sounds odd, maximum post length limits that are meant to only last for say a day IC (which can still take a long time OOC) or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Annals isn't really accurate anyway to refer to the Hall of Fame, since I don't think it would be a chronological record of the RPs in this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralsei Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 I've got my own concerns, honestly. Everything people said about minimum length being upped and the idea of Interest Checks being condensed into one thread, those were covered pretty well. I don't agree with either ideas for the reasons kinda said already. In regards to helping people improve...honestly imo the best way to improve is for flaws to be pointed out, by the hosts of each RPs preferably (or the mod), and...well practice.Perhaps we should have some intentionally shorter RPs created? RPs with, and this sounds odd, maximum post length limits that are meant to only last for say a day IC (which can still take a long time OOC) or something like that. I like this idea. This is something I would really like to work with, cause... Sometimes, these quick oneshot type deals can be really fun to do. I don't really see a rule saying we CAN'T do them already, but just for clarifications sake, it's alright, yeah? The other thing I'm here to say... I don't really like the rule limiting your ability to host RP's until you've joined one. I get it's kind of a necessary evil. Can't have people popping in randomly who've never RP'ed at all and do a terrible job, but... I come from a group full of roleplaying and I kinda want to host something. Originally I was going to help out Kazooie with her Pokemon Mystery Dungeon RP, but we had to put that on the back burner while she does her IRL stuff, and I haven't really had my attention caught by anything yet cause the RP's I'm interested in aren't accepting anymore. It's just sad for me cause the thing I joined to do, I'm kinda locked away from. Perhaps making it where you have to go through with an Interest Check, if you haven't been involved in the section? It shows if you've developed the idea at all, and if the effort is there, it might be gamble, but it's better than being locked out entirely if nothing catches your attention or the things you are interested in are closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Any updates bossman? Oh and before I forget, should we uh...do something about that RP Rewards thread? Cause it...has never been used and kind of is pointless as is lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANZAI!!!! Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Any updates bossman? Oh and before I forget, should we uh...do something about that RP Rewards thread? Cause it...has never been used and kind of is pointless as is lol.Was waiting to see if anyone had any further input, actually. As far as the rewards thread goes, thats next on my list of things to do, but I'd like to get the rules and section reorganization done first. I think you're all more or less of the same mind about the changes I had in mind, so expect a second draft to be posted here probably tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I say get rid of the rewards thing altogether. Point incentives have never worked to make people RP more or write better quality posts(or for almost anything on this forum). Having fun in an RP should be all the reward needed tbh. If anything, something like an RP of the year award might work better as an incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Reward was from the era of Aix's sitewide economic revamp program which didn't have a pronnounced impact in the end. Any opinions for the short public RP suggestion by Cow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I don't think it'd really work with the forum post format we use here considering how slow RPs tend to be, but I don't dislike it. If someone's launching one I'll at least read the interest check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Any opinions for the short public RP suggestion by Cow? I'm for it! It just needs to be consciously designed to be short to try and overcome our tendency to move slowly/become stagnate. I think it'd be a great way to increase the amount of RPs and activity in the section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bury the year Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 In my opinion, AC in RP serves more as a necessity to prevent low-quality exchanges prominent in pre-AC days rather than a scaffolding for an RPer's growth as a writer. As someone already mentioned, this increase would only lead to new people adding fluffs to their post...pretty much not really changing anything. The content of the post stays the same, it just ends up being wordier in a bad way.Sidebar, but as the creator of the Advanced Clause, this is exactly what it was. We were getting one-sentence RP posts almost exclusively. The minimum threshold was to stop posts with minimal effort put into them: 100 words is enough for most people to prove that they aren't just posting "decorated spam." As for my opinions (late as they are):AC word count increase: Don't do this, for reasons previously mentioned.Site wide/forum roleplay: We aren't the right structure for it, what with thread roleplays competing for attention. It was tried once and didn't work, so I'm hesitant to say it's worth trying again."The Archives" subforum: This seems like a whole lot of work for not much benefit. The forum is already set up to hide any threads that are 60+ days old by default.Hosts controlling other characters: ...was this even an issue previously? I always thought that was something a GM had the right to do in order to move things along. We don't need to cement it.Oneshot/intentionally shorter RPs: I'd be down for this, ngl. Having shorter timespans over which we can fiddle with concepts and characters sounds nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 RE: intentionally short rps. I can see it working. Some ideas that come to mind are super Slice of Life, or recreating end-game RP scenes where those that join are thrown into the middle of "the end" of an RP. Their deciding actions would help to draw the short rp to a close, without taking an overwhelming amount of time. Kinda like how in some games you get thrown into a tutorial against a boss character and his HP is low, and you're instructed to finish him off. That could also work with pre-designed characters meant to be given to new players (though this is not necessary). I do think pre-designed characters would shorten the process quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANZAI!!!! Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 [spoiler=NEO NEW RURUS DURAFTO] YCM ROLEPLAY SECTION RULESWelcome to the YCM Roleplay Section! If you're new here, it would probably be good to note that roleplaying here can be a considerably different process and experience than on other sites. We're a very close knit community, but also very kind and welcoming so you can integrate yourself in no time. Whether you're new or not, it would be a good idea to review your knowledge of the Section Rules, otherwise you may incur the wrath of an angry duck.The general rules of the YCM forums apply to these forums as well unless explicitly stated otherwise. Please familiarize yourself with them. They can be found here: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/forum-28/announcement-61-yu-gi-oh-cardmaker-forum-rules/You must only post your own work. Plagiarism of any form, including posting other people’s work sans permission; claiming someone else’s work as your own; or posting blatant derivatives is forbidden. If you break this rule, you will be banned without argument. That said, disclaimer incoming: all media posted in this forum is assumed to be copyright of its respective owners. Unless otherwise stated, an individual poster makes no claims as to the possession of anything they’ve posted. Just covering our butts here.RP content rating system Every RP that is posted on YCM must follow certain guidelines as to its content, and as a result we use a rating system to identify what can and can not be depicted in an rp. All Roleplay threads (both OOC and IC) must include their rating in the thread title. Any post not adhering to the rating of an RP should be reported and brought to the attention of an RP moderator. The ratings we use on YCM are in ascending order as follows:R-G (Rated for General Audiences)- Not something you'll usually see on YCM, but for those who want to avoid most depictions of violence and sex, this rating exists. R-G RPs allow for depictions of mild violence and implied sexual content.R-13 (Rated for ages 13 and up)- Formerly known as PG-13, this is what the vast majority of RPs on YCM fall into. R-13 RPs allow for depictions of some violence and some sexual content, but nothing graphic.R-16 (Rated for ages 16 and up)- R-13's big brother. Formerly known as PG-16, R-16 RPs allow for depictions of some graphic violence and sexual content.R-16+ (Rated for ages over 16)- The absolute limit of what is allowed on YCM, including graphic violence and (SFW, mind you) sexual content. Please note that all R-16+ RP concepts must be PMed to and approved by an RP moderator before they are posted, and will be strictly monitored by staff to ensure that they stay within site guidelines.R-18 (Restricted to those over 18)- Porn, Ultraviolence, etc. Nothing that would warrant an R-18 rating may be posted in the RP section. This means no overly graphic sex or violence in either written or visual form.CREATING AND HOSTING ROLEPLAYSThere are several important guidelines to follow in order to ensure quality and smooth operation of your roleplays on YCM.A roleplay starts with a thread in the OOC Forum. You can make an interest check thread containing a minimum of 100 words describing your roleplay before creating an OOC thread with a description of the plot, rules, and an application template; or you can move straight into a full-blown OOC. Before the IC starts, you must have a plot paragraph describing what the RP is about, the rules and an application form in your OOC opening post. For those of you who are new to hosting, here is the most helpful guide in the universe (in Zai's unbiased opinion) on creating a roleplay: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/333475-zais-guide-to-ooc-threads-and-rp-conceptualizing/All OOC threads must include the Advanced Clause in their rules. On YCM, we have what is commonly called the “Advanced Clause,” a set of basic rules designed to promote literate roleplaying. All OOC threads need to use the body of the clause as follows or reference the clause in some way.a. All IC posts require at least 100 words (not including quotes from previous posts), roughly 4 lines at standard formatting.b. Posting in script format is forbidden.c. Copy-pasting or “expying” characters without tailoring them to the new roleplay is forbidden.A roleplay needs at least two people, including the host, to start. The IC cannot be posted without the host first accepting at least one other person in the roleplay... otherwise it's not an RP, go post in Creative Writing instead. One on one roleplay is perfectly fine.If you reject an application, you must provide an explanation as to why They deserve at least that much. If you feel their ability as a writer and roleplayer is insufficient, it's good ettiquite to critique them and offer them suggestions to help improve their writing. A moderator may step in asking you to elaborate if they feel your explanation is not enough (or if you're being a dick).If a roleplayer has been inactive for an extended period of time in a roleplay, the host has the right to control that roleplayer's characters in order to move the RP along. If conflicts arise as a result, please contact a roleplay moderator to settle the issue. It is up to the moderator's discretion whether the host's use of this right was appropriate. It is however, good form to try to contact and discuss with the inactive roleplayer first, before resorting to taking control of their character(s).[/indent]ROLEPLAYING CONDUCTThese rules are to make sure everyone has fun.You must follow the rules set by the roleplay host. If you have a problem with any of the rules or the way which a roleplay is run, please contact a roleplay moderator to resolve the issue. Unnecessarily aggravating the issue and parties involved can result in punishment.Please proofread your work and do not use chatspeak or emoticons in IC posts. Please abide by all properties of proper prose. A degree of mastery of the English language, spelling, and grammar is required. If English is not your forte or your first language, accommodations can be made, however you must be willing to improve.Avoid godmodding, metagaming, or powerplaying in IC. Performing actions that cannot be defended against or giving oneself inordinate amounts of power (godmodding), using information that couldn’t be known in-character (metagaming), or controlling another player’s actions without their permission (powerplaying) is not allowed. We understand that this can be unintentional, but you must correct your posts if caught doing so. Moderator action may be taken if this is a persistent problem.Contact a moderator if problems occur. Some disagreements can be resolved by the roleplayers themselves, but before things get heated please contact a moderator as a mediator.ROLEPLAY MODERATORS: Zai Fixed it up real quick, but I don't have time to proofread it as i'm beak-deep in some annoying banking issues at the moment. If I missed something or forgot a change I was going to make please let me know. As far as short and/or public RPs go, that's not something that needs to be in the rules, and frankly its something that you can all just attempt to run yourselves. Just state that the RP in question is one in the OOC. I might try running one myself in the future, but my plate is full of passion projects at present so the most I could do is lend a hand to someone else. Tl;dr I think its a good idea to try; putting a pin in it for now. As far as everything else is concerned (the archives and the rewards thread), i'll probably have a dedicated topic up for those once i finalize my plans for them, not that discussing it here in the abstract is a bad thing. If this draft is kosher, it will go into effect on Friday when i have a chance to destroy Aix's legacy and post my own rules thread. Any rp posted before then will be grandfathered in with the current ruleset. Practically speaking all that means (I think) is that rating tags aren't mandatory until the new rules go up. Cheers. -Zai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Other than atrocious formatting, it looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralsei Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 It looks alright to me! I don't see anything that is extremely pressing in terms of the content, so once you have a chance to fix up the format, I say it looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANZAI!!!! Posted June 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 The New rules thread is up here, and goes into effect immediately. PM me if you have any questions. -Zai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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