I Hate Snatch Steal Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 Tuner + 1 or more non Tuner monstersOnce per turn, you can pay 800 life points to target 1 face up card; destroy it. When this card declares an attack, you can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; change its battle position. If this card battles a monster: during damage calculation you can discard 1 card once per battle; this card gains 1000 ATK during that damage calculation only. I originally made this in 2009 (I think), and it was probably OP back then. However I think it might be balanced now. Its a generic level 8 synchro that you can bring out with Stardust Warrior. I don't remember much of the design process since its been a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TekFish Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 The paying 800 thing reminds me of old Psychics lol, I think it's pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 The paying 800 thing reminds me of old Psychics lol, I think it's pretty decent. I know you're new, but note that you need to explain why you think it's decent [though older Psychics still pay LP, so you're not wrong]. (Refer to the Advanced Clause) ====Right now, its stats are kinda meh compared to other Level 8s seeing play (well, Stardust is an exception for reasons), but suppose this can be a less costly version of Scrap Dragon (if you don't want to blow up your board). Second effect is useless against Links (you know why), but last one at least helps you run over them if needed. As a whole, card is fine. (When you initially made it, yeah, probably was on the OP end due to the power level of Synchros being far from stabilized in the 5Ds era and Scrap not existing.) Also OCG fix:1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monstersOnce per turn: You can pay 800 LP, then target 1 face up card; destroy it. If this card attacks: You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; change its battle position. If this card battles a monster: During damage calculation, you can discard 1 card; this card gains 1000 ATK during that damage calculation only. [Did you intend for the last effect to be usable once every time it fights during the BP or just one time in general?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TekFish Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Ok sorry, I am quite new to this. In that case, let me elaborate. I think the effects are nothing crazy to be honest, paying 800 LP for 1 targeting destruction is not a huge deal for most decks to deal with since many decks like Yang Zing, BA, etc. float when destroyed and others such as Kosmo, Majespecter and Apoqliphort (if it comes back) cannot be targeted. Changing the battle position of monsters again is nothing particularly strong, especially since you can't use it in your opponent's turn to negate an attack, however when combined with the other effect to gain 1000ATK, it can help you to run over some VERY strong monsters, since 3500 is pretty strong even still. I don't think it is a balance problem that it is generic level 8. Especially with links coming up, since Synchros aren't going to be as effective as usual. I could see this card being pretty nasty in Yang Zing, since you could use Chiwen, Bixi, Pulao and Suanni to basically get a 4000 beatstick that's immune to S/T, can change monster's battle positions and pop a card every turn for 800 LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 This is where I got the "once per battle" clause http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fabled_Ashenveil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TekFish Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that using that clause means that if for some reason "Voltage Warrior" can attack twice, then you can use the effect twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that using that clause means that if for some reason "Voltage Warrior" can attack twice, then you can use the effect twice.That was the intent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TekFish Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ok, I think that would be very strong, but giving monsters extra attacks is quite difficult, unless there is a specific support card for it. So I think it's balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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