[CIBR] Mecha Phantom Beast Raitten

[Dokutah]

 

CIBR-JP030 幻獣機ライテン Genjyuuki Raiten (Mecha Phatom Beast Raitten)
Level 4 WIND Machine-Type Effect Monster
ATK 1500
DEF 1500
(1) You can discard 1 card; Special Summon 1 “Mecha Phantom Beast Token” (Machine/WIND/Level 3/ATK 0/DEF 0), but for the rest of this turn, you cannot use monsters as materials for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz or Link summon, except for “Mecha Phantom Beast” monsters.
(2) This card’s Level is increased by the total Levels of all “Mecha Phantom Beast Tokens” you control.
(3) While you control a Token, this card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects.

 

sauce: https://ygorganization.com/soyouwantedtokenshaveallthetokens/

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Oh yay, legacy MPB support. (* dusts off Deck; might be time to upgrade my 2014/2015-era version *)

 

Liking that the Token generator isn't OPT, but it does require you to have a decent hand size to burn. I did misread this as locking you to only the 3 ED monsters they have for summoning (which would've been dumb); if it's just locking you to using only Archetypal members, then it's a lot nicer. You can still combo with O-lion to start plays and all (search, SS something, banish with Coltwing, etc.)

 

Since this card mentions Link Summoning, HOPEFULLY they at least get a new boss to play with, because their ED isn't great with only the aforementioned monsters. (iirc Dracossack got power creeped by now). We can only dream, right?

[Atypical-Abbie]

First card to restrict Link Summoning? Anyway, nice to see that they are getting new support, and it seems like one of the best ways to generate Tokens, I hated how you could barely get 2 without working super hard for them.

[Carnwennan]

Oh yay, legacy MPB support. (* dusts off Deck; might be time to upgrade my 2014/2015-era version *)

 

Liking that the Token generator isn't OPT, but it does require you to have a decent hand size to burn, and also hope that you can survive on only using Dracossack, Jaculuslan or Concoruda; more of the former two because Concoruda kind of sucks for the Deck. At least you can still combo with O-lion to start plays and all (search, SS something, banish with Coltwing, etc.)

 

Since this card mentions Link Summoning, HOPEFULLY they at least get a new boss to play with, because their ED isn't great with only the aforementioned monsters. (iirc Dracossack got power creeped by now). We can only dream, right?

But with the current wording this doesn't restrict what you Summon, only what you use as Materials, so you can Summon Fusion, Synchro, Xyz and Link Monsters that aren't Mecha Phantom Beasts using Mecha Phantom Beasts as Materials to my understanding.

[~British Soul~]

But with the current wording this doesn't restrict what you Summon, only what you use as Materials, so you can Summon Fusion, Synchro, Xyz and Link Monsters that aren't Mecha Phantom Beasts using Mecha Phantom Beasts as Materials to my understanding.

You misunderstand, once it spawns a token, you can only summon ED monsters with "Mecha Phantom Beast" in its name, so it does restrict what you can summon.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

(I was joking/wishing about MPB getting support on a private Discord, and they got something, so...make of this as you will.)

 

@Zazu: Only members they have that generate 2 MPB tokens are Coltwing if SS'd or Hamstrat if you flip it up (latter isn't really bad, well, least from the last test run). Other than that, you'd have to rely on repeated Aerial Recharges + whatever triggers from other stuff. (I wasn't bothered by it too much, but would've liked more speed in generation, yes).

 

It's good at what it does (and lets them make high number Links much faster, which is cool), but unless they actually get a Link Monster to work off that, yeah. won't do too much (and drains your hand).

[The Warden]

I looked at the current Org translation, the one on the YGO wiki, and this thread. They all say the same thing: you cannot use MONSTERS as MATERIALS for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz or Link Summon, except for “Mecha Phantom Beast” monsters.

 

It is quite literally forcing you to only use MPBs for any kind of ED summon. I have no idea why you think it's applying to what you summon, rather than the materials when it quite clearly explains that it's applying to materials. I mean, if it were restricting ED summons, wouldn't it have said "you cannot Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link Summon monsters, except for "MPB" monsters?" And omitted materials entirely since it's irrelevant? I mean chalk it up to the translation, but the condition does seem pretty clear.

[Carnwennan]

Yeah, I too interpreted it that way and it would still be a relevant restriction if splashed since your other monsters can't be used as Materials for anything, so they are stuck doing nothing.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Was a misinterpretation of the effect at the time of initial reading (which is really late at night); wouldn't have made a lot of sense for Konami to literally lock them to the ED members, considering how sparse they are. Right now, the restriction is fine and still lets them make whatever generics they'd want.

 

Let's drop the matter and move on.

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The restriction means that you can't do something like discard 2 -> 2 tokens into 2 link spids -> decode talker

[Tinkerer]

Based on pack spacing, does look like a one-off like the Fire King/Mermail or does this look to be one of multiple legacy cards for MPB?

 

I've never used MPB personally as a whole deck, but I did pull a few from packs and kinda get what they're about. This card won't singly change their whole playstyle, but it does look like the play starter they needed.

[Guest BGMCANN0N]

I thought this guy would be good with "Scramble, Scramble!!!" in mind, then I saw this cards restriction then I saw the Scrambles restriction... Mecha Phantom Beast just can't win you any favors without getting overwhelmed by their own restrictions. :/

[Bringerofcake]

I thought this guy would be good with "Scramble, Scramble!!!" in mind, then I saw this cards restriction then I saw the Scrambles restriction... Mecha Phantom Beast just can't win you any favors without getting overwhelmed by their own restrictions. :/

checking scramble scramble, I don't see where the problem lies.

[ÆƵ–]

checking scramble scramble, I don't see where the problem lies.

The summoned monsters get shuffled back in the EP.

 

This card seems like it can be neat, but my new bae mariamne can't benefit so

[Tinkerer]

^ Er, I don't see the problem with the shuffle back into the End Phase (especially if you can exchange them for Link(s)).  Also... doesn't Mariamne still work?

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

^ Er, I don't see the problem with the shuffle back into the End Phase (especially if you can exchange them for Link(s)).  Also... doesn't Mariamne still work?

 

You'd have to destroy the Tokens first, because all MPBs (well, except the Synchros iirc) have that anti-destruction effect on the field if a Token is up. But yes, it still works from what I see on Mariamne's page. [Either have 2 MPB tokens out, or them alone without it]

 

Linking still works though for whatever comes off Scramble (or Xyz into something), but lack of generic ones that have ideal markers to let them advance their plays quicker is still an issue. (At least they can use the Token for Link Spider stuff and proceed to summon from there).

 

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(Would be nice if this could be tested though, but the VRAINS beta is kinda junk right now [and unlikely they'll get this card and other updates in].)