Atypical-Abbie Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 LVP1-JP086 ヘビーメタルフォーゼ・エレクトラム Heavymetalfoes ElectrumLink Rating 2 FIRE Psychic Link Effect MonsterATK 1800Links: Bottom Left, Bottom RightMaterials: 2 Pendulum MonstersYou can only use the 3rd effect of this card’s name once per turn:(1) If this card is Link Summoned: Place 1 Pendulum Monster from your Main Deck face-up into your Extra Deck(2) Once per turn: You can target 1 face-up card you control, except this card; destroy that card, and if you do, add 1 face-up Pendulum Monster in your Extra Deck to your hand.(3) If a card in your Pendulum Zone leaves the field: Draw 1 card. Wow, amazing support for Pendulum Decks, generic in every way for them, draw power, search power, recycling, opens up two new zones to Pendulum Summon too. Pendulums just got their comeback card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 This in Pendulum Magicians is funked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I like that at base, this turns any of your scales into a generic pend search+1 draw. I guess the main issue would be whether you can get it out before pend summoning though, but even then it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 TCG made a mistake taking pendulum cards off the list so zelously Insight Mag combos with this will vindicate me imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I always wanted a generic card that lets you place Pendulums from Deck to Extra Deck. Pendulumgraphs + Draw effect = too good. EDIT: This thing can also bring back Harmonizing Magician from ED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 When I first saw this cards name I immediately though of E-HERO Electrum wondering why its a Metalfoes monster but yeah Electrum a artificial alloy would make sense for Metalfoes Monster. OT: This card is a nice generic Pendulum Deck Card where it provides a lot to placing Pendulums into the Extra Deck to then add that Pendulum Monster to your hand if you decide to destroy something else in exchange for it and adding draw power if your opponent destroys one of your Pendulum Zone cards is destroyed. Ideally this could be another Link Monster for D/D/D's along with the Archfiend Link Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Holy sheet. This is an abomination. Igknight Zexal Lock is officially back, boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 TCG made a mistake taking pendulum cards off the list so zelously Insight Mag combos with this will vindicate me imonah, wavering isn’t good anymore outside of Astro memes, and Luster just has not aged well. Also this realistically can’t be used until you’ve pendulum summoned, which means that, while it is _very_ strong, it’s not quite as strong as it appears. Good Ladder card tho. Gofu being limited makes it even less likely to be summoned before PS, because Golem prevents NS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 nah, wavering isn’t good anymore outside of Astro memes, and Luster just has not aged well. Also this realistically can’t be used until you’ve pendulum summoned, which means that, while it is _very_ strong, it’s not quite as strong as it appears. Good Ladder card tho. Gofu being limited makes it even less likely to be summoned before PS, because Golem prevents NS.maybe run in decks which its pendulum monster isn't easily died out? like Abyss Actors or Dinomist? well its still 2nd turn play so maybe not really relevant. and Dinomist liking Qli Genius more still those effects quite lit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 nah, wavering isn’t good anymore outside of Astro memes, and Luster just has not aged well. Also this realistically can’t be used until you’ve pendulum summoned, which means that, while it is _very_ strong, it’s not quite as strong as it appears. Good Ladder card tho. Gofu being limited makes it even less likely to be summoned before PS, because Golem prevents NS.I was more noteing Crobat and Pendulum call with OCG left at 1 unlike TCG Both formats have 3 WE, and I am inclined to agree with your assessment on it. Intrigued to understand why Luster has "not aged well" in TCG, but I'm not certain what Ignister is at, so that might be the explaining variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I was more noteing Crobat and Pendulum call with OCG left at 1 unlike TCG Both formats have 3 WE, and I am inclined to agree with your assessment on it. Intrigued to understand why Luster has "not aged well" in TCG, but I'm not certain what Ignister is at, so that might be the explaining variable.What deck actually wants Luster in the scale? Dinomist, Metalfoe, Magician, Performapal Odd-Eyes, Mythical Beast... none of them do. I guess Majespecter, but that's scraping the bottom of the barrel. That's pretty much the only deck that's okay with having a Scale 5 with opt cycle a copy in the scale. And most of those have mediocre scaleclear/would rather just clear in-theme cards for value. Ignister is at 1, but you don't even really need Ignister when it requires running MD cards that just don't do enough. Can be made with other tuners, to boot, so the spin effect is still possible to do without Luster. also joker is a good card but it's not broken, so not really a thing pcall gives up the goal of the deck for a turn in order to setup, which is also fairly fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Kept thinking about it.Skulldeat on board, no NS leftScales are ODd-Eyes left, Odd-Eyes Arc rightSS Sorc from hand with SkulldeatSorc pop the Odd-Eyes, get U Go GolemArc effect, get any Odd-EyesOdd-Eyes + Sorc = ElectrumElectrum effect, place U Go Golem in EDPlace ??? in scaleElectrum effect, pop that ???, add U Go Golem to handDraw 1Place U Go Golem #1 in scalePS 4 (2 Odd-Eyes from ED, Golem and ??? from hand)Golem + Odd-Eyes = VortexGolem in scale adds back ???Odd-Eyes + ??? + Electrum = Firewall behind SkulldeatSame result as other plays, but you achieve a little different value from the Dissovler line of play. Both are good, though, especially since you're probably cutting the GUB play, and this works off of Gofu + NS or Grinder Golem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 What deck actually wants Luster in the scale? Dinomist, Metalfoe, Magician, Performapal Odd-Eyes, Mythical Beast... none of them do. I guess Majespecter, but that's scraping the bottom of the barrel. That's pretty much the only deck that's okay with having a Scale 5 with opt cycle a copy in the scale. And most of those have mediocre scaleclear/would rather just clear in-theme cards for value. Ignister is at 1, but you don't even really need Ignister when it requires running MD cards that just don't do enough. Can be made with other tuners, to boot, so the spin effect is still possible to do without Luster. also joker is a good card but it's not broken, so not really a thing pcall gives up the goal of the deck for a turn in order to setup, which is also fairly fine5? Pals, Magicians....I mean you prefer 8, but 5 won't kill you You can trigger your magicians, and set up P-Wizard -------------------------- It's an easily searchable stratos with actually good targets unlike stratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 could Ravine Darkwurm help get this out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 5? Pals, Magicians....I mean you prefer 8, but 5 won't kill you You can trigger your magicians, and set up P-Wizard -------------------------- It's an easily searchable stratos with actually good targets unlike stratosPals don’t want it over Arc Pendulum. Magicians would rather have magician scales. It requires a normal summon so it’s effectively hard OPT. Large list of targets doesn’t change that. It’s fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I wanted this to be a dracoslayer monster, i dont know there is something metalfoes have that i find unapealing (but thats just me). That being said the card is absolutely fantastic, great support, if have to complain about something is that 2 of their 3 effects are mandatory but thats it.. Chronograph sorcerer now sounds more appealing to use since it will have instant acces to this without the use of the PS, still an uderwelimg play though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 So we can expect for sure now a Zoodiac Link that supports Xyz Summoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 So we can expect for sure now a Zoodiac Link that supports Xyz Summoning? Not necessarily. Could be a Quant, could be something else. But I think, either way, an Xyz-oriented Link monster is a pretty safe bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshai Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Like it or not, Pendulums at least needed a Link Monster. I would rather all of these not be complete BS but apparently, Konami failed to slow down the game and now they're just running with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Like it or not, Pendulums at least needed a Link Monster. I would rather all of these not be complete BS but apparently, Konami failed to slow down the game and now they're just running with it. something something links were never meant to slow down the game something Pendulums were also never really complete BS and the good themes already adapted to Link format successfully without this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Not necessarily. Could be a Quant, could be something else. But I think, either way, an Xyz-oriented Link monster is a pretty safe bet. I mean, look at the pattern: Metalfoes, Crystons and Zoodiacs appear in Dragonic Diagram and were involved with True Dracos, and recently a Cryston and Metalfoes Links have been revealed, the first supporting Synchros and Tuners, and the second supporting Pendulums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Man, if I could figure out a way to get this out in an Amorphage deck... Amorphage has been getting lots of little tools here and there (full archetype searcher via Odd-Eyes Revolution, Extra Deck recovery via this and Pendulum Paradox...). They seem REALLY close to being able to work, but they still need a play starter. Outside Amorphage decks specifically, with this, one could probably tech in an Amorphage monster and send it directly to the ED so it can be Pendulum Summoned as an extra floodgate for your opponent while being easily removed using this so it doesn't hurt you. I mean, look at the pattern: Metalfoes, Crystons and Zoodiacs appear in Dragonic Diagram and were involved with True Dracos, and recently a Cryston and Metalfoes Links have been revealed, the first supporting Synchros and Tuners, and the second supporting Pendulums.I'm more surprised that the Metalfoe one didn't support fusions tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 not likei said expect this and the zoo link weeks ago or anything Also, Pendulums are more ridiculous than ever thanks to this/Grinder Golem/Gofu if it wasn't limited lol Pend5, albeit partially from hand, is more realistic than it ever was before, it just requires some setup beforehand. As for this card, I actually need to change my statement slightly, as it is even better than anticipated. Wavering Eyes allows you to go into this card. Yes, it's a Normal Summon requiring combo, but you go -1 from Wavering, then -1 again to make this, which gives you a fuckton of advantage. Astrograph benefitting from the Star Seraph Sovereign ruling makes it a legitimately good engine. It might make Rescue Hamster good enough, but doubtful. It makes Luster/Master better because of the versatility (Hieratic Seal, Cryston Needlefiber, This) that said engine offers, but it's prob not good enoguh with limited Face-Off. It makes the Unexpected DAI engine better, because Hallohallo and Master are both good targetsm wither versatility to them due to types. Like Speedroid mentioned, Darkwurm is a good option as well. Just wish it could search a Level 4 or lower. It's easier to summon than expected. also starving venom can copy the pop effect ayyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 I mean, look at the pattern: Metalfoes, Crystons and Zoodiacs appear in Dragonic Diagram and were involved with True Dracos, and recently a Cryston and Metalfoes Links have been revealed, the first supporting Synchros and Tuners, and the second supporting Pendulums. I didn't say it was impossible, I'm just saying it's not guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Draident needs an errata to be Spell Speed 1 Bull could go to 1 -------- Black, the problem is Stratos has like 7 good targets, Honesty, Plasma, Mist, Bubble, Mali, Dude, Blaze Crobat is a different league all together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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