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Sanfran Jury Finds Kate Steinle Murderer not Guilty


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http://www.sfchronic...-s-12396717.php

 

Sanfran Jury finds seven-time felon who repeatedly re-entered this country illegally 5 times not guilty of either murder or manslaughter despite felon admitting to firing the gun the killed Kate Steinle

 

 


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Something something pretentious generalization about human behavior, everyone stop killing each other, /topic

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It's unfortunate that an innocent person was slain and their loved ones will suffer knowing there is no justice behind their murder.  Let me get ahead of this.  I don't wanna hear anything about immigration outside of debates.  If you got something to say about it and you wanna use this example as part of your debate, feel free to do so in the appropriate topic in the appropriate section.  If it's outside Debates, I'm warning you now and only now.

 

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Edited by Hi I'm Dad, 30 November 2017 - 09:47 PM.

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It's unfortunate that an innocent person was slain and their loved ones will suffer knowing there is no justice behind their murder.  Let me get ahead of this.  I don't wanna hear anything about immigration outside of debates.  If you got something to say about it and you wanna use this example as part of your debate, feel free to do so in the appropriate topic in the appropriate section.  If it's outside Debates, I'm warning you now and only now.

 

You will be punished.

Nope, just a sad topic about a sad tale


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I hope there's some nuance to this story and it isn't as ridiculous as it seems.



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I hope there's some nuance to this story and it isn't as ridiculous as it seems.

The perp claims he accidentally fired 

 

that's it


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The perp claims he accidentally fired 

 

that's it

 

Wouldn't that fall under Involuntary Manslaughter (or Criminally Negligent Homicide as the most lenient)?



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Wouldn't that fall under Involuntary Manslaughter (or Criminally Negligent Homicide as the most lenient)?

He was found innocent on that charge as well


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He was found innocent on that charge as well

 

How? His own admission would have made those lesser charges stick, unless it was ruled inadmissible somehow.



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How? His own admission would have made those lesser charges stick, unless it was ruled inadmissible somehow.

The jury didn't find him guilty of it. What more do you want me to say?


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Jury Nullification is a thing.

Guess he was a very apologetic manslaughterer. Unfortunate for the victim. Hopefully the jury made the right call in terms of future safety.

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Jury Nullification is a thing.

Guess he was a very apologetic manslaughterer. Unfortunate for the victim. Hopefully the jury made the right call in terms of future safety.

 

I know jury nullification is a thing. Sadly, I didn't consider that this time. Shame.



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The illegal trash should have been hanged


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The illegal trash should have been hanged

 

What made you think this was okay?  I'm curious.


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What made you think this was okay?  I'm curious.


He did kill somone and not everyone shares my distaste for capital punishment I assume

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What made you think this was okay?  I'm curious.

 

I must have worded it wrong. He is trash for being a murderer... Being an illegal immigrant makes it worse, and overall;

 

He came into a country illegally, murdered a legal citizen, and got away scot-free. He has to pay!


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I must have worded it wrong. He is trash for being a murderer... Being an illegal immigrant makes it worse, and overall;

 

He came into a country illegally, murdered a legal citizen, and got away scot-free. He has to pay!

 

See this actually makes more sense, because on drowsiness last night I might've given you warning points.  Consider this a verbal notification.


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This is an outrage. There's no other way to put it, it's just...

 

 

Rosseau was wrong. Humanity is evil. The horrible things I am reading about have jaded me. Humanity can go kill itself, I'm moving tl another planet where I am alone and this evil doesn't happen.



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It's bad but it's not that bad.



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This is an outrage. There's no other way to put it, it's just...

 

 

Rosseau was wrong. Humanity is evil. The horrible things I am reading about have jaded me. Humanity can go kill itself, I'm moving tl another planet where I am alone and this evil doesn't happen.

 

So, you are saying that Hobbes is right (read Leviathan if you don't get the point)? Funny, my Great Political Thinkers class thought Rosseau was right.






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