Porn Star August Ames commits suicide after vitriolic harassment campaign targets her for not acting with gay star

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/porn-star-august-ames-dead-23-article-1.3681554

 

The outlet reports that her cause of death is currently unknown, but friends suspect it was a suicide, as Ames was prone to depression.

 

 

 

https://www.dangerous.com/37985/porn-star-august-ames-may-have-killed-herself-over-twitter-bullying/

 

 

Context: Gay performers wear condoms meaning they never have to get tested for AIDS unless a specific company makes them (in CA). Given this information she didn't wanna star with a guy who has done gay shoots before. 

[Dad]

Just so there's no confusion, I okay'd the topic.  Anyone with a problem can come to me.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

There was a court case this year where a girl got sentenced for goading her BF into killing himself. I really hope Jack and Twitter are willing to go after the fuckwits behind this. Likely won't happen cause of the side they're one, but one can hope

[Dad]

There was a court case this year where a girl got sentenced for goading her BF into killing himself. I really hope Jack and Twitter are willing to go after the fuckwits behind this. Likely won't happen cause of the side they're one, but one can hope

 

Was this the case where she kept pushing him (via text message) and when he backed out at first, she called him a coward?  Something like that?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Was this the case where she kept pushing him (via text message) and when he backed out at first, she called him a coward? Something like that?

Yeah. That's the one. Absolutely vile isn't it? I'm still horrified she got like 15 months for man slaughter

 

Ames has been getting replies like the cyanide one for a couple days now and they tanked a major gig she got.

 

Just tragic...23 :/

[Dad]

Yeah. That's the one. Absolutely vile isn't it? I'm still horrified she got like 15 months for man slaughter

 

Ames has been getting replies like the cyanide one for a couple days now and they tanked a major gig she got.

 

Just tragic...23 :/

 

It honestly enrages me.  People do these God-awful things and get slaps on the wrist because "if not their lives would be ruined".  Unacceptable.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

There was a good legal case for accessory to murder. He clearly wasn't going to kill himself before she kept persisting. I'm reading through Ames's tweets and she's also begging these people to leave her alone pretty much

 

This is what fascism looks like

 

I'm more just heartbroken than anything. They used "faux tolerance" despite her explaining herself to drive her over. Wonder if these people realize homophobes did the same to us non-straight people not too long ago. Memory so short

[Sunshine Jesse]

This isn't really fascism tbh. It's closer to cultish behavior.

 

Pretty sickening either way. I was expecting there to be some further nuance to this story to make it look less awful, but it doesn't seem like there's any.

[Beatrice]

Whether it's right or wrong, if you're in the spotlight, like doing porn, you're going to get sheet from people no matter what you do. Considering she did porn, she was probably half way decent paid. She should have taken the money, quit or found a new job, and stopped using her social media accounts. Then again she could have been locked into contract, but she obviously needed help more than anything.

[Kid Gambino]

Is there any chance that this is an extremely poorly-timed drug overdose (due to her history of depression and affiliation with porn) that has absolutely nothing to do with how people were responding to her on twitter?

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Is there any chance that this is an extremely poorly-timed drug overdose (due to her history of depression and affiliation with porn) that has absolutely nothing to do with how people were responding to her on twitter?

Absolutely, but timing is suspect to say the least.

[Dad]

Absolutely, but timing is suspect to say the least.

 

I concur.

 

Uncoincidental would be a similar porn star who died due to overdose (I won't mention her name), but this would be far too convenient.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

This isn't really fascism tbh. It's closer to cultish behavior.

 

Pretty sickening either way. I was expecting there to be some further nuance to this story to make it look less awful, but it doesn't seem like there's any.

Hitler and others often found dirt on people, Gay, commie, etc. magnified it, and destroyed them. Gobbels and his propogana machine was honestly Nazi Germany's strongest weapon

[Dad]

Hitler and others often found dirt on people, Gay, commie, etc. magnified it, and destroyed them. Gobbels and his propogana machine was honestly Nazi Germany's strongest weapon

 

Let's not stray too far off topic.  This is technically relevant, but please do keep the current topic in mind.  Thanks.

[Snatch Steal]

This is the second time you’ve made the minority group of a particular aggressor or group of aggressors the most important part of a death. I don’t know if you’re trying to be edgy or if you genuinely have disdain for minorities, but this and the illegal immigrant thing completely uncover your facade of not having an agenda.

 

I know you love being passive-aggressive when you make posts like these and don’t add your own comments other than “how sad :(“ so that you look like a neutral party, but I also know that you’re more cunning than just being neutral. You’re trying to subtly undermine our conventions regarding stereotypes by focusing our attention on the minority group at hand rather than the actual crime, because you want to “trigger feminists.”

 

If this woman really was concerned about AIDs, she would be thankful that gay pornstars always have to wear condoms and should request that her co-star wear a condom during filming. Furthermore, she shouldn’t have stereotyped that all gays have AIDs and expected the community to react in a positive way.

 

And as if the gay community wasn’t burned alive for being gay a couple hundred or so years ago, and as if we’re still not being thrown off buildings to this day, this girl being uncomfortable around gays comes first.

 

I decided not to make a huge fuss out of the first time you did this, which was when an illegal immigrant killed a woman and was acquitted, but this time I’m predicting a pattern.

 

Just know that plenty of people are told to take a cyanide pill every day, whether by others or by themselves, and they have careers and honors to make up for it. Maybe I’d be more sympathetic if you hadn’t posted this, but I can tell based on your tendency to post political statuses and act like you don’t want to take a side that there are alterior motives.

 

Edit: okay Jaxton Wheeler seems sort of like a not very spectacular person when it comes to minority issues himself so perhaps it’s a pot calling kettle black situation. I stand by my theories regarding your behavior, but this doesn’t seem as much of her fault as I thought

 

EDIT EDIT: I can’t link the video but holy sheet he is a jabroni

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

yeh I blame the aggressor for the aggression, bite me
 

Last time I blamed a man who had no right being in this county, an Illegal Immigrant, who re-entered the country six times after he was deported, and then illegally got a gun and shot a girl. I blame the Justice system for letting that man go to spite the president. But thankfully the feds are also prosecuting him. May he rot in some dark hole :)

 

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The gay support brigade here targeted this young woman because she was concerned about having sex with a man who acted in gay porn. Are you a misogynist? She had every right to turn down having sex with any man for any reason she pleased. Who are you to second guess that? Sit down. If anyone is triggering feminists, it's you with that pro-rape culture attitude. 

 

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Oh man, so facts can be homophobic now. 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html

 

Try squaring with reality. "Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men account for 70% of new HIV infections in the United States"

 

Maybe accept that our community has a problem with safe sex instead of pretending that others are at fault for being reluctant to intermingle in that mess?

 

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Cali recently passed a law decriminalizing transmission of AIDS

 

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-downgrades-from-felony-to-1507331544-htmlstory.html

 

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Condoms don't have a 100% or even close to that effective rate (70% effectiveness)

 

http://www.catie.ca/en/fact-sheets/prevention/condoms

 

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https://www.everydayhealth.com/hiv-aids/can-you-afford-hiv-treatment.aspx

 

Aids medicine is costly and would bankrupt most people. But I suppose that doesn't matter if faux integration is the goal

 

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Again, she had no obligation to answer to arm chair SJWs like you. Have a hot cup of funk you, I'm not done with you yet :)

 

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Have you really forgotten this is exactly that kinda stuff people used to do to us? Back when homosexuality wasn't accepted. They'd find us, out us, and drive us from jobs. Were you really so young you forgot all that in the mid 2000's? Or is that too intellectually honest for you to accept

 

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K? I don't care if you feel sympathy or not. A young woman is dead because people like you are as intolerant as the people you profess to fight against

 

In conclusion, you can report my post all you want, but funk off dude. This sorta tribal wagon circling will do more damage to our community than this poor woman could have

[Sunshine Jesse]

I really don't think going in this direction is necessary.

[BANZAI!!!!]

Dad doesn’t seem to be around right now so I’m going to poke my head in for him and ask that you stay on topic and not let this devolve into an argument, please and thank you.

[Snatch Steal]

yeh I blame the aggressor for the aggression, bite me

Are you so young when homophobic people used to out us and shame us for our preferences...or is that just too intellectual honest for you to concede? People like you are part of the problem

So you’ve created a strawman, rambled about some kind of internalized homophobia, and tried to belittle me all in one post, none of which actually boils down to a counter argument. I must say, I’m disappointed.

 

What I was pointing out is that you seem to love acting conservative, whether you are or not. You love being the dark horse of the forum, and in order to do that, you’re willing to frame entire groups of people as aggressors against innocents. Then when I call you out on it, you act as though it’s the fault of other people—who behave in this same manner, mind you—for making you feel bad.

 

Remember, the word “jabroni” is supposed to mean “stick,” and it was appropriated to be a gay slur during the Salem witch trials. This is because homosexuals were not burned at the stake, but rather thrown into the fire as kindling because we weren’t even as worthy as witches.

 

If you think I don’t recognize homophobia, or if you think I am hugely sad that a homophobe no longer breathes, you are mistaken. But the point is that you have been constantly, contrarily acting like some sort of shitlord for notoriety.

 

It probably sounds like I’m on a high horse, and for that I apologize. If I had it my way, we would get along. But sheet like this makes it difficult not to question your authenticity, and wonder what kind of substance there even is in posts like this.

 

What if Leslie Jones had killed herself over being called a jabroni by myriad people over twitter? Didn’t she make herself more vulnerable than this woman, who pretty much made an uneducated statement and expected no consequences? And besides, I dont see any other examples of users cyberbullying her. If all it takes is one guy, who can just be blocked, pathetically dedicating so much time and energy to her, to make her kill herself, what WOUDLN’T kill her?

 

But does any of this matter now that I see through you? Can you possibly come up with reasoning better than a shitty one-liner? Or is your inward hatred projected outward so strong that you’re not capable of reconciling?

 

Please don’t take this bluntly. I know I sound uppity and pretentious, but my goal is to be earnest and stern. If you are willing to take this seriously and do better than you’ve done then I won’t hate you for trying, nor should anyone else here. I know I’m making a huge deal of this, but it seems like a learning opportunity for all of us, and if it comes to worst, then it’s a copypasta.

 

Also, I started writing this before Zai posted, so if PM conversation helps preserve the topic then do so.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

My inward hatred allowed me to be openly out in a red state back when everyone from Obama to Clinton were all on the "one man one woman" train

 

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop before you embarrass yourself further

[Dad]

Yeah this isn't happening.  This went from interesting to hatred and flaming in a matter of an hour or so while I was away.  I'm locking this because this isn't debates and it's clear that moving it would only cause it to further devolve.  

 

And I s a a c you'll be hearing from me tomorrow.  Your behavior in this thread was utterly unacceptable.  Winter, you need to cool off.  I can't believe y'all couldn't address this like adults.  Not that I expected that from YCM.