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Insect/Link/Effect 

2 WIND monsters
All WIND monsters on the field gain 500 ATK/DEF, also all EARTH monsters on the field lose 400 ATK/DEF. If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can target 1 WIND monster in your GY; add it to your hand. You can only use this effect of "Greatfly" once per turn.

 

So we have our WIND version of Missus Radiant, etc (which was revealed yesterday, albeit nameless). I can think of one deck I could toy around with using this... for casual play ofc (Dragunity), though it'll likely be dropped after testing. What are your thoughts guys?

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These cards are all modeled after cards of old that boosted the attack of one attribute but lowered the defense of another. They are most likely designed so that each attribute has something that points to 2 main Monster zones.

 

The only one left is Little Chimera.

Little chimera already has this kind of retrain, as mentioned above only light and dark remain.
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This one's name kinda bothers me. I mean we all know the Link versions have some form of play on their original's name. Milus Radiant -> Missus Radiant, Star Boy -> Mistar Boy, and Little Chimera -> Do-Little Chimera.

 

This one is... just a touch less imaginative and a bit unrelated. I mean Bladefly -> Greatfly. I was honestly expecting something a little punchier, like Saberfly or some other larger bladed weapon. I mean it could be greatsword, but the joke doesn't really come across with just using the word "great". Though Greatbladefly is a bit of a mouthful I know, I just think they could have done a little more with the name.

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This one's name kinda bothers me. I mean we all know the Link versions have some form of play on their original's name. Milus Radiant -> Missus Radiant, Star Boy -> Mistar Boy, and Little Chimera -> Do-Little Chimera.

 

This one is... just a touch less imaginative and a bit unrelated. I mean Bladefly -> Greatfly. I was honestly expecting something a little punchier, like Saberfly or some other larger bladed weapon. I mean it could be greatsword, but the joke doesn't really come across with just using the word "great". Though Greatbladefly is a bit of a mouthful I know, I just think they could have done a little more with the name.

 

ブレードフライ Bureedofurai -> 

グレートフライ Gureetofurai

 

It makes more sense in Japanese.

 

Weird that it doesn't seem to elevate Bladefly's social status though. At least not as obviously as the others.

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Pretty sure that if Dragunity wanted a link, they would prefer Needlefiber.

 

Harpies would use it, but that's only due to lack of better cards, and that's supposing that they need a Link rn.

 

MPB have Genius, Cherubini, possibly Needlefiber, and I guess Junk Connector.

 

Obviously these cards are good to have in the game, but LVP1 really changed the game, and most things that would currently want this don't, anymore. Even the Tomahawk combo that so badly needed this got Genius instead.

 

WW Invoked seems like a bad use because why wouldn't you just work around Link Aleister, anyway. Card rewards OG Aleister super hard.

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Yeah these Attribute cards should have come together in the first Link era set. We were barely halfway into their release when they started getting powecreeped.

Many have been waiting for the Witch's Apprentice retrain since Missus was announced, and I already suspect it'll be outclassed by something else by the time it is released.

 

That said, it is a fun generic card I'll still be trying out here and there.

In Dragunity, at least TCG wise, I've been trying out Twin Triangle Dragon.

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Windwitch Invoked is back!

Seems pretty solid, all things considered. It's pretty much what the other 3 were.

I wonder if we're going to get the Hoshinigen equivalent next, or the Witch's Apprentice equivalent next.

I was actually thinking about this, instead of another C-Wing, you could just use the witches to make Greatfly

 

Intrigued about Dragunity like Brit mentioned, but the Hieratic XYZ might be superior there

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Pretty sure that if Dragunity wanted a link, they would prefer Needlefiber.

 

Harpies would use it, but that's only due to lack of better cards, and that's supposing that they need a Link rn.

 

MPB have Genius, Cherubini, possibly Needlefiber, and I guess Junk Connector.

 

Obviously these cards are good to have in the game, but LVP1 really changed the game, and most things that would currently want this don't, anymore. Even the Tomahawk combo that so badly needed this got Genius instead.

 

WW Invoked seems like a bad use because why wouldn't you just work around Link Aleister, anyway. Card rewards OG Aleister super hard.

Why not the hieratic one?

 

It can fetch the tuner, serves as removal, and Hieratic Dragunity is a deck

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In keeping with the Link monsters for Attributes, this grants WIND a Link monster in the form of Bladefly. Minus Radiant, Star Boy, and Little Chimera. Wonder what art direction they'll take for Witch's Apprentice and Hoshiningen if they make Link monsters based on them. Would this work with Reborn Tengu or does its wording/effect not allow it?

 

In any case, I'd be happy if they made a Link monster based on Hoshiningen.

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I'm actually starting to think Needlefiber is the one that's too versatile for its own good, outclassing rather shamelessly the Synchron Link and these elemental booster Links in many spots.

Well the Synchron Link is also not very good to begin with, but still.

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I'm actually starting to think Needlefiber is the one that's too versatile for its own good, outclassing rather shamelessly the Synchron Link and these elemental booster Links in many spots.

Well the Synchron Link is also not very good to begin with, but still.

also needlefiber kinda outclasses every synchro

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You can point at Needlefiber and call it unfair all you'd like, but there's very little chance of it going anywhere in the immediate future, which means these cards must be judged on such merits.

 

Even LANpholinkus has a decent chance to see more play than these, because it can be made from anything, and most decks aren't super exact in their attributes.

 

That said, DARK and LIGHT will probably be a cut above the other 4 by virtue of the quality of those attributes. Which is a no brainer, but those two will prob age a lot better.

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I mean Needlefiber is an FTK card, which kinda demonstrates how stupidly openended it is, but that's not why it's broken.

Needlefiber is an insanely versatile ladder card, and it's very easy to summon. It's not just GUB, though putting GUB on board without having to use its effect to do so is funking strong, especially given Linkuriboh's existence. Needlefiber gives you sped up access to cards like Trisbaena, Borreload, Summon Sorceress, and general power board combos. For two monsters, you get the value of up to 4... and one of those monsters can be a cheap tuner that can give you value/vice versa. GUB is the poster child, especially since it's much more efficient as a Link material than Synchro material.

 

It's definitely on the upper end of strength, even if it's not the most relevant at any given moment. Card can only age well.

 

Needlefiber's certainly a cut above most of these DL/DR cards, it's just not going to disappear anytime soon.

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I mean Needlefiber is an FTK card, which kinda demonstrates how stupidly openended it is, but that's not why it's broken.

 

Needlefiber is an insanely versatile ladder card, and it's very easy to summon. It's not just GUB, though putting GUB on board without having to use its effect to do so is funking strong, especially given Linkuriboh's existence. Needlefiber gives you sped up access to cards like Trisbaena, Borreload, Summon Sorceress, and general power board combos. For two monsters, you get the value of up to 4... and one of those monsters can be a cheap tuner that can give you value/vice versa. GUB is the poster child, especially since it's much more efficient as a Link material than Synchro material.

 

It's definitely on the upper end of strength, even if it's not the most relevant at any given moment. Card can only age well.

 

Needlefiber's certainly a cut above most of these DL/DR cards, it's just not going to disappear anytime soon.

It's not?

 

The FTK is Konami yet again forgetting to put an OPT on a burn card (the plant), and topological bomber also not having an OPT

 

It's on the upper level of strength sure, but I'm not sure how a card that has revitalized ( a good thing) is suddenly broken enough to warrant list attention

 

Yes, I know that you said it won't get it, but others in this thread sure seem to push at it 

I'm actually starting to think Needlefiber is the one that's too versatile for its own good, outclassing rather shamelessly the Synchron Link and these elemental booster Links in many spots.

Well the Synchron Link is also not very good to begin with, but still.

Well the synchron link was bad even without needle-fiber 

 

you're fooling yourself if you think it'd see play w/o needle existing

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Plant FTK certainly isn't the only FTK it's a part of, either, but I don't think this card is responsible for any of them, only serving as a powerful bridge.

 

The amount of toolboxing that the legacy links offer is often a bit too much. Needlefiber has that in spades. Giving tuners a new purpose doesn't inherently make it fair, just as it inherently doesn't make it broken. There just happen to be a lot of high value tuners available for it to access, many of which used to fall just shy of their full value, and a large number of decks that can easily incoroporate it.

 

As you said, I'm not calling for its head, but it is such an obvious cut above everything else that it makes sense people want it gone. It's kinda centralizing for a lot of decktypes, fitting in to a good number decks that don't currently have a themed/type-based link to call their own. We're just not at a point where it's gotten too good.

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