I agree with this. The way I see it, the team has given a good reason for why it could be abolished. However, until they can live up to that, it shouldn't be abolished. Either abolish the position, and have every mod improve their PR skills, or if the rest of the team cannot be more reliable for communication, then we are going to need a dedicated PR mod. Pick one option or the other, because right now, it just seems like the team has picked the worst part of both.
Preeetty much, yep. The mod team could maybe get to the point where it could handle it individually. But... The issue with that is that each person has a different view on things.
That's why I pushed for the PR thing. Having everything condensed down to one source, and having it given all at the same time, is immensely helpful to communicating between members and mods. Otherwise, you have like, six or seven different sources coming from the mods on what's going on, things get jumbled up, and communication becomes "Well, I heard this. But this other guy heard the exact opposite from another mod" and it's happened before.
That's why I think, even if the team could mostly be trusted to handle it without a position for it, it would still probably be better in the long term cause it's easier to organize when one-or-two people are handling the organization of different view points, so that it all gets communicated cleanly.
So I wanna say something real quick since the topic is being touched on. This bit about "getting someone to challenge us" is something I'm pitching in the forum (something I started early last night either right before or after Black's status (at least I think it was Black)).
I haven't taken it up with the rest of the team to even mention some of this yet in public, but I'll take my lickings if I need to. Ain't nun. But before I make another announcement I will go back to the mod forum. This one is a little bit more sensitive so I can't afford to fuck it up. Just expect something hopefully within 24 hours. No promises.
Good shit, I like this. This is communication and it's good to hear! Keep us updated on how the discussion goes, when it becomes relevant dude.
Holy shit Birdie. I want to rep that post but hit my daily limit; everyone rep her because she deserves it.
If you're suggesting the team needs a PR mod or two again, I don't mind stepping up to the plate (and not backing down like last year). Correct me if I'm wrong or point it out if I'm just blindly tooting my own horn here, but I seemed to be one of the more well-liked mods while I was briefly on the team, which is important for the position, as well as one of the preferred picks for PR when it first happened (not gonna touch on the negatives of that whole thing; 2018's a year for optimism and good things!). Running General and Debates during Dad's hiatus also familiarized me with the section people seemed most concerned about me having to get involved with, and it all went pretty smoothly. No reason they can't bring you back as a PR mod too, come to think of it.
Also, rewinding a bit so that this isn't entirely about PR (I probably came off as kinda eager to grab the job; this isn't quite the case).
I'm glad my post didn't come across as inane, sleep depraved rambling after all! I think given everything that's happened, reopening the position is probably a good place to start. Proper communication is the base of getting everything sorted out. I believed that before, and I still believe that's the case.
Can someone please justify why Night should remain a mod?
Like I somewhat get people feeling bad for Zai, but people have been calling for Night to step down for almost 2 years now. Aix's literal resignation post was about how Night hasn't been doing anything. Like c'mon, he might be iconic or something. Give him a member group. I'm just not seeing what he's done recently to merit a Showcase mod spot. A position that anyone from Thar to Dae to Tormy merit more
This isn't a sentimental affair guys. (1) is X doing their job
Seems to me the the team and certain members are hellbent on keeping the current mod team alive in some way or the other even if it means putting people into pointless positions
Unfortunately, like Josh mentioned in his post, the issue with demodding Night is that the moment it was discussed and began to be put into effect, he appeared the next day and demanded to be back in his Super Mod position. It's impossible to come to a clear decision on what to do there, since he can just show up again like that, even though I agree he probably shouldn't be part of the team now.
We can't talk to him cause he only shows up if he's in risk of losing his position, which goes back to maintaining the status quo over making actual progress.
It really goes back to the thing I've been saying. This isn't some super vital job that will define your life. But you owe it to the community to perform to your best levels. If you cannot, for ANY reason, be it life, health, school, etc. it's incumbent on you to step down to let someone do the job better than you currently can
That's not meant as a slap on you (you being any mod in the above situation), but rather an acceptance of reality. Black mentioned I'm being too hot in my critique, but I'm going to bluntly say it. I feel a number of people on the mod team care more about securing or preserving their modship than they do about YCM's future
I don't feel like this is too hotheaded, honestly, I essentially said the same thing in my post. Part of the issue with downsizing, with no plan to replace the inactive mods, definitely felt like it was because there was concern over losing their position as a result of it, when all it would've done really is bring in new blood to make discussions more open to alternatives.
It's a legitimate concern, and that's why I'm pushing to expand the mod team more once the proper hierarchy has been established... And figuring out how the Night thing is going to be handled.