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President Trump: Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?


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President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they discussed protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to several people briefed on the meeting.
 
“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to countries mentioned by the lawmakers.
 
Trump then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries such as Norway, whose prime minister he met with Wednesday. The president, according to a White House official, also suggested he would be open to more immigrants from Asian countries because he felt they help the United States economically.
 
 
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I mean in a way, he's right, the state of those countries is really shitty and those people should be helped, but he didn't mean it that way and he's a massive racist jerk.
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No, it's not "savage". It's not funny, or worth laughing it. Trump is purposefully being racist towards those people to further justify his blatant xenophobia.


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No, it's not "savage". It's not funny, or worth laughing it. Trump is purposefully being racist towards those people to further justify his blatant xenophobia.

 

 

how's he being racist?


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No, it's not "savage". It's not funny, or worth laughing it. Trump is purposefully being racist towards those people to further justify his blatant xenophobia.

It's not racist, at all. He didn't say they were bad because "hurr durr they have negroes", they just are.




 

 

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how's he being racist?

 

From the article that you yourself linked:

“Why do we need more Haitians?” Trump said, according to people familiar with the meeting. “Take them out.”

He's criticizing the countries to incite hatred against the people from those countries, and is explicitly saying to leave people out of deal. He wants laws to be structured to explicitly leave out people from certain cultures, which is pretty racist.


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Roxas is referring to Trump's willingness to accept immigrants from Norway (a European predominantly white country) compared to those of Africa (and who the president deems these people still live in huts and all have aids).  Because the latter statement is an ignorant oversight and blatantly false, and the former is ironic because Norway is a country with more socialist programs which the president does not like, it appears as favoritism and racism.  I'm not sure how this was missed considering the president actually said these things, but this post is for clarity.


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Trump ain't racist, but what he said was very racist.


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Trump ain't racist, but what he said was very racist.

 

The problem is that what he said fits with his recurring habit of saying racist things. This is the norm, not the exception for him.


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The problem is that what he said fits with his recurring habit of saying racist things. This is the norm, not the exception for him.

You can say racist things and not be a racist, just as you do say racist things and are a racist.

 

I truly do not believe Trump is a racist. Just a dick/idiot/opportunistic jacka$$


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I'm okay with not dismissing people as being racists, as it's too all encompassing and dehumanizing, which is the problem with racism itself.  

 

That being said, I'd find it hard to believe that Donald Trump carries no racism in his heart.  He says racist things a lot and I mean a lot.  He has a very harmful lack of empathy towards these countries and that is not okay.


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Why would you want people from shit hole counties coming here? My only point of disagreement is that Norway is also an shithole

I'm okay with not dismissing people as being racists, as it's too all encompassing and dehumanizing, which is the problem with racism itself.  
 
That being said, I'd find it hard to believe that Donald Trump carries no racism in his heart.  He says racist things a lot and I mean a lot.  He has a very harmful lack of empathy towards these countries and that is not okay.


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Why would you want people from shit hole counties coming here? My only point of disagreement is that Norway is also an shithole

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Most of the things he's said over the course of his presidency.  For some reason, he believes Africans are still savages who live in huts.  He also believes that all Haitians have aids.  These are things he's said.

 

Here are some sample articles but there are plenty of resources out there.

 

http://www.newsweek....s-report-758000

https://www.axios.co...25b49e709c.html


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Most of the things he's said over the course of his presidency.  For some reason, he believes Africans are still savages who live in huts.  He also believes that all Haitians have aids.  These are things he's said.
 
Here are some sample articles but there are plenty of resources out there.
 
http://www.newsweek....s-report-758000
https://www.axios.co...25b49e709c.html


Well then link them instead of posting two articles about the same anonymous story that's was denied?

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Nope. Not doing this.

 

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Well then link them instead of posting two articles about the same anonymous story that's was denied?

 

Sure.  Denying something doesn't make it false, however.  You can deny you don't breathe oxygen but that doesn't suddenly make your claim true.

 

RE:  Haitians have aids.

 

https://www.huffingt...4b04df054f757a0

https://www.aljazeer...2084723204.html

https://www.vox.com/...ountries-norway

https://www.nytimes....-countries.html

https://www.washingt...m=.082356312b50

 

It's referenced in each of those articles if you simply read them.

 

RE: Nigerian's live in huts.

 

https://www.nytimes....p-shithole.html

https://www.nbcnews....nations-n836946

https://www.washingt...m=.ad4de24178e5

https://slate.com/ne...ve-in-huts.html

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.3717535

http://www.motherjon...es-reports-say/

http://www.businessi...utburst-2017-12

 

Also referenced in each article.  Have a read of it yourself.


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NYT started the story, and then every other source reported

If you say you saw a unicorn, and ten people report that you say you saw a unicorn.

11 people did not see a unicorn

There's a shit of generals in the room lying then and willing to put a name to their denial. NYT and it's source aren't

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NYT started the story, and then every other source reported

If you say you saw a unicorn, and ten people report that you say you saw a unicorn.

11 people did not see a unicorn

There's a shit of generals in the room lying then and willing to put a name to their denial. NYT and it's source aren't

 

LOL


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Sure.  Denying something doesn't make it false, however.  You can deny you don't breathe oxygen but that doesn't suddenly make your claim true.

 

RE:  Haitians have aids.

 

https://www.huffingt...4b04df054f757a0

https://www.aljazeer...2084723204.html

https://www.vox.com/...ountries-norway

https://www.nytimes....-countries.html

https://www.washingt...m=.082356312b50

 

It's referenced in each of those articles if you simply read them.

 

RE: Nigerian's live in huts.

 

https://www.nytimes....p-shithole.html

https://www.nbcnews....nations-n836946

https://www.washingt...m=.ad4de24178e5

https://slate.com/ne...ve-in-huts.html

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.3717535

http://www.motherjon...es-reports-say/

http://www.businessi...utburst-2017-12

 

Also referenced in each article.  Have a read of it yourself.

Those all reference the same report which can't be proved or anything, which is just "he said she said", it's not a credible source.




 

 

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Those all reference the same report which can't be proved or anything, which is just "he said she said", it's not a credible source.

Yeh that's pretty much my point


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