New Staff Member Election

[Blake]

Giga did a tally on his own and found the same results. So while it's not guaranteed still, two members have checked it.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I'd like to also register my support for Giga

[Sleepy]

I've been reading this this morning (10pm by now), and am finally up to date with this thread. 

 

I confess that I have in the past had lack of confidence, but not lack of interest.

I won't opt out of this one though. I wanna run. 

 

 

As for my votes:
 

Black. He's been pulling a huge task staying involved here and organizing 7 pages of scattered votes, and PMing Fusion and me as well. He's very responsible and hard-working. That is without having to take into account his past experience

 

Cow. I am probably not the best of judges for this, but whenever I have seen Cow around, he's always level-headed and keeps a prudent distance from issues at times when others get into more heated arguments. I have a lot of respect for Cow.

 

Parenthesis. He's one of of the most involved people with or without mod status. He would make a pretty good staff member IMO.

 

Darj. From last election, I can see people don't have a very clear image of him. I think he'd do a good job if allowed to prove himself. IMO could be a little pushy at times but is very attentive. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I've been reading this this morning (10pm by now), and am finally up to date with this thread. 

 

I confess that I have in the past had lack of confidence, but not lack of interest.

I won't opt out of this one though. I wanna run. 

 

 

As for my votes:

 

Black. He's been pulling a huge task staying involved here and organizing 7 pages of scattered votes, and PMing Fusion and me as well. He's very responsible and hard-working. That is without having to take into account his past experience

 

Cow. I am probably not the best of judges for this, but whenever I have seen Cow around, he's always level-headed and keeps a prudent distance from issues at times when others get into more heated arguments. I have a lot of respect for Cow.

 

Parenthesis. He's one of of the most involved people with or without mod status. He would make a pretty good staff member IMO.

I pushed you for TCG mod back in the day, I think you'd be a great and active mod today as well (It's awesome that you're keeping your club alive for example)

 

Do you have any specific reforms or ideas you would like to push as Mod?

[Sleepy]

I pushed you for TCG mod back in the day, I think you'd be a great and active mod today as well (It's awesome that you're keeping your club alive for example)

 

Do you have any specific reforms or ideas you would like to push as Mod?

 

Not at the moment. The position is fairly generic and I've never been mod anywhere for anything. I'm mostly taking a personal first step of changing my usual position of "I don't think I'm qualified for this" to stop grounding myself and try. I can basically as of right now just promise I'll do my best if elected.

I recognize that lack of a solid view from the get go, the lack of experience, the lower amount of votes than over half a dozen other candidates, and my strongest quality to be mentioned by people nominating me being basically that I'm friendly, all leave me with a lot of work to do, and a lot of studying to do as well. Especially since from the get go, I got to this thread thanks to Black PMing me, otherwise I don't know if I would have taken another few days to notice this election existed.

 

Oh boy. Thanks for the question though, I have some homework to do it seems.

 

As for the comment on my club.

My art club aims to have a chill and lax atmosphere. I did not make a member list, not out of laziness but to not encourage a "member vs outsiders" view. Instead I always want to welcome people in. Be it fellow artists that don't know how to break the ice, members that feel like going to drop a request or comment on a drawing somebody o

ver there posted. I also don't want drama such as "I can't believe x member is leaving the club" or "we haven't posted in a week, this club is dying, I miss the old times", so it is better off as a cozy place that welcomes people in and doesn't chain them. That is the concept I follow at least. Though I gotta say active members are really nice and interactive. Keeping a club alive is ultimately thanks to its members. I've had several occasions where I can only drop a +like for a nice entry, and other members still help each other. I don't actually enforce anything over there. The club does undergo inactivity periods much like any other place, but no biggie. It is important to leave the doors open and activity sprouts again, I think. = )

[ShimoHkun1]

I personally would push for Cow, if only because of what I’ve seen in SSS. He is friendly, amicable and easy to interact with, which seem to be excellent qualities in a moderator.

 

Also based on forum activity that I’ve seen, Yui, Black (especially because of his initiative on this thread) and Sleepy all seem to be good candidates for something like this, because of their reasonablilty, (and in Yui’s case in particular, only because I wasn’t around when Black was a mod) previous experience with them as a mod.

 

Just my 1 3/4 cents.

[Snatch Steal]

Not much to say other than that I nominate myself, but I also nominate Hina.

 

Obviously, my reputation is spotty at best, but I've learned from my mistakes, and can use what I've learned from in the past to provide a voice that represents most of YCM. I doubt anyone cares, since they're more concerned about members who are popular, but I thought it would be worth a shot.

 

Considering my low odds, I should support Hina as well. She has been level-headed from the get-go, which seems to be the only and ultimate qualification for a candidate. If anyone other than her or I, or perhaps one of the other wildcards, gets elected, I'll chock it up to popularity. 

 

So count my vote for both myself and Hina, if you please.

[mido9]

too late for 1 more for yui?

[Phantom Roxas]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

 

Just thought I'd bring this up as an option for how exactly to handle the vote if/when it comes to it. This would mean that the votes would have to be done by PM, but I honestly think that's an upside over it being a poll. I think we can all agree that FD is impartial, so I'm not worried about votes being ignored so as to change the result.

 

I know you're citing an a real life election method, but as far as this site is concerned, it does remind me of a discussion between CowCow and Winter regarding the GFET.

[Sleepy]

A long time ago I saw Pika post a video on that method. Let me go fetch it for visual help:

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Is there any word on when the deadline for nominations will be?

[Simping For Hina]

Not much to say other than that I nominate myself, but I also nominate Hina.

 

Obviously, my reputation is spotty at best, but I've learned from my mistakes, and can use what I've learned from in the past to provide a voice that represents most of YCM. I doubt anyone cares, since they're more concerned about members who are popular, but I thought it would be worth a shot.

 

Considering my low odds, I should support Hina as well. She has been level-headed from the get-go, which seems to be the only and ultimate qualification for a candidate. If anyone other than her or I, or perhaps one of the other wildcards, gets elected, I'll chock it up to popularity. 

 

So count my vote for both myself and Hina, if you please.

Your lack of confidence and opinion show that you can't look at things objectively, regarding members and yourself. SItuations would arise where that would be unhelpful, especially with how the mod team has been viewed before. It isn't your popularity, it is consistency in attitude and means that help these people. You're not a voice for most of YCM, as we all have our own voice and there isn't that many of us here.

 

 

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Is there any word on when the deadline for nominations will be?

The last anything was said bout this was Flame saying personally he thinks it should end Tuesday or Wednesday but that was 3 days ago and specifically "unofficial" but I think it's a pretty good amount of time. Especially as so far we're getting a lot of repeat nominations

(Thanks btw to those putting my name up, feels nice, especially with how rocky things have been for me around this place at times. Made me nervous that I never improved.)

[Nathanael D. Striker]

I think it is finally time for me to say something. First, thank you for the nomination Halu. It warms my heart knowing that someone wants me to be a mod again. Second, I think I did try pushing for some sort of power in Card Contests and 1v1, J-Max. My Leaderboard Chairman group allows me defacto power in 1v1, but no mod abilities (Sakura outranks me when settling disputes for the record). Thirdly, it's clear that I won't become a mod again anytime soon, but let me throw my hat in to say I'm interested in regaining my position in spite of the odds. Fourthly, I might as well throw some nominations in myself: CowCow (obvious by now), myself (if I don't, it contradicts what I said earlier), and Giga (he can develop a passives aggressive temper, bit he still cares about the site).

[Snatch Steal]

Your lack of confidence and opinion show that you can't look at things objectively, regarding members and yourself. SItuations would arise where that would be unhelpful, especially with how the mod team has been viewed before. It isn't your popularity, it is consistency in attitude and means that help these people. You're not a voice for most of YCM, as we all have our own voice and there isn't that many of us here.

 

On the list of all the people I need to justify myself to, you are the last.

 

I’m learning from my mistakes.

 

Are you?

[Simping For Hina]

On the list of all the people I need to justify myself to, you are the last.

 

I’m learning from my mistakes.

 

Are you?

You don't need to justify anything to me, but you need to justify yourself as a mod. I am a member of this forum and if you have personal qualms with me the interfere with how you act, you're not suitable for the modship. I don't care what I have done to you, nor am I looking for anything from it. If you need to validate yourself in the eyes of other members, using fallacies to justify yourself is not the way to do so. Looking subjectively at members when you can't treat them better than your personal qualms allow, you're not moderator material.

 

I have done nothing wrong in terms of rules here, you don't need to like me. You need to treat me just as any other moderator would, though, which proves the point that while you're learning from your mistakes you haven't changed and are still repeating them. You're not moderator material, only proving my point with this reply. Stop acting like a child if you want to be treated better. I am not looking to be treated better or even act differently.

 

Treat me however you want, but your personal issues are not to interfere with how you operate as a moderator and you need to be objective. You're still being subjective, acting like I need to learn from my mistakes or I need to do something about myself with introducing your own conflict with me. A moderator needs to prove himself to all of the members and be level headed, none of which you are.

[vla1ne]

Just dipping in to toss some support for a few people:

 

I support striker returning. i wasn't here for that fiasco he had in the past, but he's been a rather respected member post incident, or at least for my time here, so i'd like to see what you can do in the current moderator era with your past experiences. so count yourself as my first vote simply for your closure.

 

second, i'd say jessie deserves a shot. honestly i'm interested in what they'd do as a mod, i think jessie would be good as a mod after watching, and having had arguments with them over time. strong arguments, well formed, and willing to admit mistakes fairly (usually) so... that's my second nomination.

 

third, testability black. while black has been lauded, and for good reason, testability (Henceforth shall be known as alt black) seems to have not only a good reason to become a mod, but a decent chance at becoming a strong mod simply from the omnipresence factor. alt black, has been here since 2007, she's got both time on the log, and a willingness to both try, and potentially fail. so yeah, she's got my vote.

 

lots of folks on my list, but those are the top 3 right now. close decision though.

hina would be on the list, but while i'm curious to see what kind of mod hina would be, i'm not sure hina would be a stronger choice right now over the other three not counting alt black, but alt black's logic is of a separate variety. i'd love it if she became a mod, but not yet. sure she'd be good, and sorry hina, i have a lot of faith in you, but the others, i believe should be given a shot first. if the next vote comes round, i'd gladly pick you. forgive me pls

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Jesse honestly deserves a lot more support, I'm not sure if people are just walking over her here, but she's honestly solid

 

This is coming from a guy that used to really dislike her, and spar with her often in debates

 

She's capable of holding her own as Vla1ne noted, but she's also not one to play favorites. An impartial and fair mod IMO

[Snatch Steal]

You don't need to justify anything to me, but you need to justify yourself as a mod. I am a member of this forum and if you have personal qualms with me the interfere with how you act, you're not suitable for the modship. I don't care what I have done to you, nor am I looking for anything from it. If you need to validate yourself in the eyes of other members, using fallacies to justify yourself is not the way to do so. Looking subjectively at members when you can't treat them better than your personal qualms allow, you're not moderator material.

 

I have done nothing wrong in terms of rules here, you don't need to like me. You need to treat me just as any other moderator would, though, which proves the point that while you're learning from your mistakes you haven't changed and are still repeating them. You're not moderator material, only proving my point with this reply. Stop acting like a child if you want to be treated better. I am not looking to be treated better or even act differently.

 

Treat me however you want, but your personal issues are not to interfere with how you operate as a moderator and you need to be objective. You're still being subjective, acting like I need to learn from my mistakes or I need to do something about myself with introducing your own conflict with me. A moderator needs to prove himself to all of the members and be level headed, none of which you are.

I’m not going to allow you to incite my ire for your entertainment. I’m certain enough of myself that if you who had been banned for the same reason I was consider yourself having done “nothing wrong” then you have a lapse of introspection.

If you introspecred further, you’d find that you judge prematurely in hopes that we will disregard how insecure you really are. You haven’t had the catharsis that I have in which I can openly talk about my insecurities and let them go. You’ve trained me to know your rhetoric and carry myself higher.

 

If trying to ignore the comments from the peanut gallery makes me impartial, or if a moderator can’t vocalize their disdain for inciting the ire of others, then I’ll take my business elsewhere. But I’ve noticed that you haven’t criticized anyone other than me, signifying some sort of grudge.

 

But I’m willing to forgive and forget this incident if you are. That’s what a mature adult would do, right?

[Dad]

You don't need to justify anything to me, but you need to justify yourself as a mod. I am a member of this forum and if you have personal qualms with me the interfere with how you act, you're not suitable for the modship. I don't care what I have done to you, nor am I looking for anything from it. If you need to validate yourself in the eyes of other members, using fallacies to justify yourself is not the way to do so. Looking subjectively at members when you can't treat them better than your personal qualms allow, you're not moderator material.

 

I have done nothing wrong in terms of rules here, you don't need to like me. You need to treat me just as any other moderator would, though, which proves the point that while you're learning from your mistakes you haven't changed and are still repeating them. You're not moderator material, only proving my point with this reply. Stop acting like a child if you want to be treated better. I am not looking to be treated better or even act differently.

 

Treat me however you want, but your personal issues are not to interfere with how you operate as a moderator and you need to be objective. You're still being subjective, acting like I need to learn from my mistakes or I need to do something about myself with introducing your own conflict with me. A moderator needs to prove himself to all of the members and be level headed, none of which you are.

 

 

I’m not going to allow you to incite my ire for your entertainment. I’m certain enough of myself that if you who had been banned for the same reason I was consider yourself having done “nothing wrong” then you have a lapse of introspection.

If you introspecred further, you’d find that you judge prematurely in hopes that we will disregard how insecure you really are. You haven’t had the catharsis that I have in which I can openly talk about my insecurities and let them go. You’ve trained me to know your rhetoric and carry myself higher.

 

If trying to ignore the comments from the peanut gallery makes me impartial, or if a moderator can’t vocalize their disdain for inciting the ire of others, then I’ll take my business elsewhere. But I’ve noticed that you haven’t criticized anyone other than me, signifying some sort of grudge.

 

But I’m willing to forgive and forget this incident if you are. That’s what a mature adult would do, right?

 

I'm gonna put this nicely just this once.  Both of you shut up.  Take whatever squabble you have with one another to PM.  If you have concerns about the other person being a moderator, PM myself, Flame, or Zai.  But you're gonna drop it from this thread, immediately.

 

Another word about it and I'm punishing you both.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

If you also note, I have not recommended anyone for the point of moderator.

You should probably clarify that your nomination of krow was a joke, as it was included in the count so far.

[Simping For Hina]

You should probably clarify that your nomination of krow was a joke, as it was included in the count so far.

Was it? I edited the original post and will state that here.

 

Krow vote was a joke.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

As for what I was saying earlier, I think that nominations should be closed soon, and perhaps the threshold should be raised.

 

I'm sure this sounds selfish of me to say, given I am currently the front-runner, so no matter how high the threshold is, I will make the cut, but honestly the more people we have in the vote, the more convoluted the election itself becomes. Though some people are getting a nomination here or there still, there is a considerable margin between those who are well-supported, and those who just have a few people behind them.

 

I haven't looked at the totals since yesterday, but I think somewhere in the ballpark of 6-8 people is optimal for the vote itself.

 

This might be hard to believe, but I'd be saying this even if I only had one or two nominations to my name. I want nothing more than for this all to go smoothly, so that actual progress can be made in the team, and in its relations to the member base.

 

EDIT: for the record, I'm very appreciative of the support I've received. I'll have more to say on it all when the candidates are finalized, but put simply you guys are great.

[J-Max]

Just wanted to thank you guys for the votes. Means a lot that people mention me after all this time. 

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I just thought... I'd like to nominate Tormented. Not because I think he'd make a particularly good mod, but because giving him mod powers would allow him to tinker with the technical bits of the site, and his special connection with YCMaker might allow us to regain some control over this frankly quite dilapidated website.