Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 DARK/Zombie/Xyz/Effect/Rank 6/2600 ATK/1000 DEF 2+ Level 6 monsters If you Xyz Summon this card by using a monster that is owned by your opponent as Xyz Material, that monster’s Level is treated as 6. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 card your opponent controls; send it to the GY. Once per turn, if a monster(s) on the field is sent to your opponent’s GY by a card effect, or is destroyed by battle and sent to your opponent’s GY: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Special Summon 1 of that monster(s) to your field in Defense Position. I love this card. Both effects are solid, and can be used in tandem with one another to steal an opponent's monster to use for your own ends. Hopefully, this means that the Vampires coming in Dark Savers will be oriented around Rank 6s, because I miss when Hazy Flames were super-good, and honestly, a mid-Rank Deck for the post-Link era would be pretty sweet. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 They still make Xyz in Link Era? I don't really understand the first effect. Does this mean you can use your opponent's monsters as Xyz Material to summon this (which are automatically treated as Level 6)? When I first read it, I thought we reached the point in yugioh where Xyz could have levels, but I guess I'm mistaken, since it says "that monster's Level" and not "this card". I don't really know much about Vampires, but it doesn't seem it directly supports them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Oh, so it's a Vampire. I saw it in the cover of the pack with the Skyfang Brigade, along with a monster that looks like a mecha girl which has yet to be revealed. I find the wording of the first effect odd and not too intuitive. It would make more sense to me if it was written as "For this card's Xyz Summon, you can treat a monster owned by your opponent as Level 6", following the clause of Nirvana High Paladin.The second effect is simple, but still effective. But then you get to Summon that monster? Sounds like a more convoluted #11: Big Eye xDAlso the stunt would take 2 materials, rather costly IMO since then it loses its effect. Although I did notice you can use more than 2 for its Summon... I don't think it would be too practical unless Vampires get new tools to steal monsters. By the way, what exactly did you call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 By the way, what exactly did you call?On a few Discord servers I'm a part of, I've been calling that Vampires will be in Dark Savers, and it appears I was correct. Anyways, the wording for the first effect (really more of a condition) seems to say that, if you have any monsters that were originally owned by your opponent, they can be treated as LV6 monsters for the Xyz Summon of this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Yes, I understand what it means, I just find the way it was written rather awkward. The "If you Xyz Summon this card by using a monster..." part may be read as an effect that applies once it's Xyz Summoned, but that's not actually the case, instead it's an alternate condition for its Xyz Summon. Then again, it could just be the placeholder translation from YGOrg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 the real reason they had to nerf goyo am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Then again, it could just be the placeholder translation from YGOrg.Most likely the case.I am suddenly really tempted to build an Alien/Vampire Deck that allows for the player to exploit Mass Hypnosis in order to get this guy out by using 3 of the opponent's monsters.Either that, or do some sort of Zombie World shenanigans, but on a larger scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BGMCANN0N Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I think... That this would have been best made in the pre-Link formats as I think this is how it should have ideally worked in Vampires: Activate Vampire Kingdom.Normal Summon Vampire Shadow. Shadow Eff.Special Summon Vampire Duke from Deck. Duke Eff.Call monster and have your opponent send a monster from their Deck. Trigger Vampire Kingdom.Send Vampire Grace from your Deck to the GY, and pop a card on their field.Special Summon Crimson Knight Vampire Bram. Trigger Grace.Special Summon Vampire Grace, and activate Grace eff call whatever you want for your opponent to dump.Activate Crimson Knight Vampire to Special Summon the monster your opponent dumped via Grace or Duke.Then proceed to Xyz Summon to this card. But, of course this had to be made too late so no that isn't an option any more. So you need to use generic alternatives like Mind Control and stuff to take stuff your opponent owns, or actually rely on other Rank 6 engines since Vampires don't have a good one of their own... Yet. With the decision to make that weird Vampire link and this... Hopefully that means more support is pending that would make this more reasonable to play in Vampires. In a generic sense though this card is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 It should say that you can treat that monster as a Level 6 monster, instead of treating its Level as 6. That'd be really cool because then you could use a copy of itself as material and loop their monsters away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I think... That this would have been best made in the pre-Link formats as I think this is how it should have ideally worked in Vampires: Activate Vampire Kingdom. Normal Summon Vampire Shadow. Shadow Eff. Special Summon Vampire Duke from Deck. Duke Eff. Call monster and have your opponent send a monster from their Deck. Trigger Vampire Kingdom. Send Vampire Grace from your Deck to the GY, and pop a card on their field. Special Summon Crimson Knight Vampire Bram. Trigger Grace. Special Summon Vampire Grace, and activate Grace eff call whatever you want for your opponent to dump. Activate Crimson Knight Vampire to Special Summon the monster your opponent dumped via Grace or Duke. Then proceed to Xyz Summon to this card. But, of course this had to be made too late so no that isn't an option any more. So you need to use generic alternatives like Mind Control and stuff, or actually rely on other Rank 6 engines since Vampires don't have a good one of their own.Of course, you forgot to notice one key detail about Sheridan. It is labeled as DBDS-JP007. Which means, if Dark Savers follows the same structure as Spirit Warriors, we are getting SIX NEW VAMPIRE MONSTERS!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BGMCANN0N Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Of course, you forgot to notice one key detail about Sheridan.It is labeled as DBDS-JP007.Which means, if Dark Savers follows the same structure as Spirit Warriors, we are getting SIX NEW VAMPIRE MONSTERS!!!:DI am hoping so. I'm tired of Vampires sucking. They are a cool archetype with a lot at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I am hoping so. I'm tired of Vampires sucking. They are a cool archetype with a lot at stake. But that's what they do. They suck... stuff :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I have always been a Vampire fan, their Deck can work wonders, but has problems when it comes to real competitiveness, so having more monsters is pretty nice, especially a new boss monster, and this card is pretty crazy. While Link Monsters can be sort of a problem for them, this can speed that up a bit. Being able to use more than just 2 monsters could be interesting too. Nice to see Xyz Monsters still being made as well, not sure if have had a new one yet, correct me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Oh, so it's a Vampire. I saw it in the cover of the pack with the Skyfang Brigade, along with a monster that looks like a mecha girl which has yet to be revealed.All we know about the 3rd cover card is the name of the theme that she is part of; 閃刀姫 (Sentouki) and we'll find out what that theme does in a couple of weeks via a deck experience event. Though I'm rather interested in that theme tbph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Of course, you forgot to notice one key detail about Sheridan.It is labeled as DBDS-JP007.Which means, if Dark Savers follows the same structure as Spirit Warriors, we are getting SIX NEW VAMPIRE MONSTERS!!!:DAnd if spirit warriors is anything to base it on, there could be still more vampire spell traps after Sheridan. If only we had a card like Synchro Material to use opponents monsters for Xyz Summons. But I'm excited to see Vampire get the darklord treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimoHkun1 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Vampires definitely need something...not sure that this was it but it can help I suppose by not just sitting on the level 6 monsters they use, and actually giving them a purpose, heck I really don’t know but if we do get more Vamps I will be pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 All we know about the 3rd cover card is the name of the theme that she is part of; 閃刀姫 (Sentouki)[/size] and we'll find out what that theme does in a couple of weeks via a deck experience event. Though I'm rather interested in that theme tbph.Oh, so there is a name for its theme, nice. I'm looking forward to the reveal as well. I mean, cute girl in some kind of battle or deity armor? what's not to love. Sentouki makes me think of shrine maidens and deitys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Oh, so there is a name for its theme, nice. I'm looking forward to the reveal as well. I mean, cute girl in some kind of battle or deity armor? what's not to love. Sentouki makes me think of shrine maidens and deities.Yeah, the name has only been known for a couple of days (on the OCG Twitter), but yeah, I was certainly drawn to her when the pack was revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Amazing card! It's basically a Rank 6 Big Eye. It's generally more versatile, and while it can't steal Link Monsters can still just send them to the Graveyard. A great addition to the Rank 6 pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 So, metaphys horus is a level 6. Anything that can summon it with a pendulum can pretty easily summon this. Not sure what that's worth, but definitely cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 So, metaphys horus is a level 6. Anything that can summon it with a pendulum can pretty easily summon this. Not sure what that's worth, but definitely cool.Unless they control an Xyz or Link in which case they can just give that to you and by the current wording you still wouldn't be able to use it as material for this. :( or if they gave you a token Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Unless they control an Xyz or Link in which case they can just give that to you and by the current wording you still wouldn't be able to use it as material for this. :( or if they gave you a tokenIt really is sad that a card that wants to use the opponent's monsters as Xyz Material, the cards it can't use end screwing you in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Unless they control an Xyz or Link in which case they can just give that to you and by the current wording you still wouldn't be able to use it as material for this. :( or if they gave you a token But then you can go into something else at that point, right? Give you an Xyz, go into EE N'tss. Give you a Link, link ladder with it. ...But then again, Extra Deck space is not all that forgiving for plays like this, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Also, you can RUM Bram into this with PK Launch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 As someone who has been revamping vampires for years, i can say this is excellent. Its still not enough but is a start, that being said Rank 5 was the best vampire (pure) build, i wonder how can this incorporate in their strategy, A RUM seems posible since out of the 2 lvl 6 vampires, 1 sucks (is bad) and the other is not good enough to me at least, really looking forward for more support, also give them a new field spell konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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