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CONSPIRACY THEORY: Sea Monster of Theseus

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Sea Monster of Theseus


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​So does anybody remember when Konami tried to hype up the Sea Monster of Theseus, then nothing happened. They said it was going to be "one of the strongest monsters that will be released in 2017 has no effect" (https://yugiohblog.k...rticles/?p=8084), but never followed up with anything and a lot of us had a good laugh over how it turned out. Well I think I know why they did that, and I also think it could've been, and this WILL sound crazy; I think Konami wanted to make a "Theseus" Archetype (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theseus). My basis for this is this card's name, Sea Monster of "THESEUS", as in Greek mythology Theseus was a warrior sent to out to complete six "labors" (meaning he had to kill some stuff like in a God of War game). This card is based on the sea monster near Megara, Italy where a robber would push travelers off a cliff so that the sea monster could eat them when they fell, then Theseus did that to the robber. Considering I'm talking about the "six labors" of Theseus and this card is Fusion Monster that is also Tuner support (and the only reason Konami would support Tuners is if they wanted to make more Synchro Monsters), I think that Konami might have been trying a Synchro-focused Archetype that would've included other Summoning mechanics based on spamming Synchro Monsters or helping them out in some way, and it may have looked similar to the Burning Abyss but again a focus on Synchro Monsters. What I think happened is during the design process that Konami in the TCG they were given a heads up from Konami in Japan probably telling them about Link Monsters and more importantly, Master Rule 4 and that might have complicated things too much for them and then they decided to give up and move on. This makes sense to me at least as this card was released in Raging Tempest, then after that it was Maximum Crisis which is the last main series booster before VRAINS, and I assume that it takes Konami a few months (or even a year in the case of an actual Summoning mechanic) to design cards or even change rules of the game so it could be very possible that Konami in the TCG was told about Link Monsters months before they were leaked so they would have time to prepare and design their exclusive cards accordingly.

​I have no actual evidence to back up what I'm saying, and I am not saying this is even factual just a theory (a game theory *wink wink*), but I do think this is a case where Konami in the TCG wanted to do something but Konami in Japan had other plans, and of course Konami in Japan gets the last say no matter what, then we were given an unintentional joke card.


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Alternatively, Konami has no idea what their metagame actually consists of until they release cards, and even afterwards they neglect how it fares, so to increase the value of this card even a little helps them continue to provide us with overpriced pieces of cardboard.

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Alternatively, Konami has no idea what their metagame actually consists of until they release cards, and even afterwards they neglect how it fares, so to increase the value of this card even a little helps them continue to provide us with overpriced pieces of cardboard.

 

Thanks for pointing that out but the entire world already knew that, good theory none the less though.


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Alternatively an on demand tuner from the ED is broken with needle fiber


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Alternatively an on demand tuner from the ED is broken with needle fiber

 

Like I said, Konami in the TCG was probably told about Link Monsters and Master Rule 4 then gave up on what they wanted to do and did as Konami in Japan instructed. Then Konami in Japan trolled the TCG by making Needlefiber.


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Like I said, Konami in the TCG was probably told about Link Monsters and Master Rule 4 then gave up on what they wanted to do and did as Konami in Japan instructed. Then Konami in Japan trolled the TCG by making Needlefiber.

 

I feel like half your posts are trolling YCM TCG.


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Except... It really was one of the most powerful. 2017, as a whole, was pretty damn weak. Like, this isn't double helix, but maybe we should be thankful about that.

It's a card that is generic enough that it ages incredibly well, and as mentioned gains further synergy since release with cards like needlefiber.

Nobody is trolling anybody. This narrative people like to push where KoJ and KoA are somehow trying to compete with each other is utter BS. This wasn't going to be some archetype that was killed off because of those pesky Japanese and their master rules. It was a one-off, generic card designed to see a wide variety of uses, which it did, and will do in the future.


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I feel like half your posts are trolling YCM TCG.

 

who told you, because they're correct  :Kappa:Snoop Dogg: 


Except... It really was one of the most powerful. 2017, as a whole, was pretty damn weak. Like, this isn't double helix, but maybe we should be thankful about that.

It's a card that is generic enough that it ages incredibly well, and as mentioned gains further synergy since release with cards like needlefiber.

Nobody is trolling anybody. This narrative people like to push where KoJ and KoA are somehow trying to compete with each other is utter BS. This wasn't going to be some archetype that was killed off because of those pesky Japanese and their master rules. It was a one-off, generic card designed to see a wide variety of uses, which it did, and will do in the future.

 

All I meant was, at least to me, maybe Konami TCG wanted to build something specific around this card like they did with Burning Abyss and Kozmo, then something happened to change that. Whether it was Konami Japan or something else, I've always felt this card was meant to be placed into a specific Deck that was never made, not that you can't build a Deck with it, but I hope you can try to understand what I'm saying.


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All I meant was, at least to me, maybe Konami TCG wanted to build something specific around this card like they did with Burning Abyss and Kozmo, then something happened to change that. Whether it was Konami Japan or something else, I've always felt this card was meant to be placed into a specific Deck that was never made, not that you can't build a Deck with it, but I hope you can try to understand what I'm saying.

 

They didn't. Theseus's place in the line-up of TCG exclusives was just to be a one-off generic, like Vermilion Dragon Mech or Tornado Dragon.


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I think KoJ makes the TCG exclusives and takes the final decisions of TCG banlist hits, but KoA is mostly in charge of the public face, the data gatherer (for banlist changes and those sweet rarity bumps and shortprints we all know and love... right?), and the product distribution.

We shouldn't think of KoJ and KoA as having equal power within Konami.

 

Theseus would be pretty sweet if we someday get Synchros that gained an edge from using Fusion Tuners. This card being a Fusion vanilla with generic materials screams Ace Monster or angular stone for something.... Perhaps something not developed at the end, but I'm inclined to believe KoA doesn't always have all the info we the public expect them to have, and that sometimes themes just don't fit into sets. I don't think Konami would work on a single set. They ought to point to some cards and say "sweet concept, but I think it'll fit better in the set 6 months from now so let's store it". Working in a big team ought to make things rather hectic.


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