redman30 Posted June 16, 2018 Report Share Posted June 16, 2018 hi recently i've had an idea for a new archetype and here's one of the first card: ScrapingQuick-play SpellEffect:you can send one Machine type monster (max level 6) from your deck to the GY and if you do add different monsters to your hand form your GY whose total level is inferior or equal to the level of the monster sent to the GY then pay 700 LP for each monster added to your hand by this effect.HOPT(HOPT : hard once per turn) well that's it is it good ?is it to good?is the LP cost too high? let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Depending on what this archetype is going to end up doing, card ranges from meh to potentially busted. So yeah, can't give a definitive. For now, it seems nice to get key stuff you want into GY while retrieving key cards you need. I think a few people would've liked it to have the cap at Level 7-8 so you could dump Fortress, recycle cards you could use to SS it (well, assuming you have something else already), but that would probably be busted. =====Quick OCG fix. You can send 1 Level 6 or lower Machine monster from your Deck to the GY, and if you do, you can add monsters to your hand from your GY whose combined Levels are equal or less than the sent monster's Level, then lose 700 LP for each monster added by this effect. (You don't pay LP after an effect resolves; you either lose LP or take damage. In this case, the former option works) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman30 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 hmm, oki didn't want to raise the level cap to much because it seemed a bit to strong giving you literraly a foolish burial for all machine-type monsters plus 6 seemed good since you can send most of the common monters just realised that this card could be abused in its current form : the card doesn't force you to add an other monster from your GY than the one sent form the deck so it could be a sort of stratos card (you send let's say cyber dragon and since it's in the GY you can add it to your hand ) maybe i should make something like :add monsters to your hand form your GY whose total level is inferior to the level of the monster sent to the GY honestly i don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 So I discard a level 6 machine, and I can otk with Cyber End Dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman30 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 i don't know how you would do that but maybe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Well, as it stands, you could simply play 3 of these in a single turn, technically allowing a Cyber End otk. Putting a clause stating you can only activate 1 "Scraping" per turn would prevent any otk moves with this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman30 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 didn't you see the HOPT clause ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 I was implying actually adding the clause to the card's effect so it is actually in writing. But yeah, I saw it and I know that it's implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 ScrapingQuick-play SpellEffect:you can send one Machine type monster (max level 6)from your deck to the GY and if you do add monsters to your hand form your GY whose total level is inferior or equal to the level of the monster sent to the GY then pay 700 LP for each monster added to your hand by this effect.HOPT well that's it (HOPT : hard once per turn) that's not how you word HOPT You can send 1 Level 6 or lower Machine monster from your Deck to the GY, and if you do, you can add monsters to your hand from your GY whose combined Levels are equal or less than the sent monster's Level, then lose 700 LP for each monster added by this effect. You can only activate "Scraping" once per turn. Technically its a tricky ROTA for Machine. So as Sakura mention already it has potential but for the most part could be bricky. Most machine deck dont realy run variable level nor tech monster that passable for the dump effect for not causing another brick if drawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 ^ Does that really matter though? In some cases it might, but then that would you just having bad luck opening 2 copies of it. It is a RotA that searches level 6 or lower machines for 700 LP. That statement on its lonesome should mean something. You can search CyDra for EMZ removal, Symphonic Guitaars for an extra NS + a body, or Speedroid Terrortop for opening plays. You can also search out some power plays on their own: Galaxy Soldier, Spell Canceller, Cannon Soldier, etc. This isn’t even to mention Machine decks as a whole. Something like Deskbots can shoot up in viability by having something like this and F.A.’s opening plays could become much more consistent. Long story short, really I don’t think you should allow this to grab the same monster you sent. With the pool of machines we’ve got in the game, that could become way too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman30 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 glad to see somebody like my card hehe btw i know how to word a once per trun but it's to long to write it's better to think about the card rather than the clauses anyway yes i'll definetly make sur you can't grab the card you sent to the GY or it would be abused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horu Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Techically, if you removed the level limit and left the rest of the effect, it would help a lot with the VWXYZ monsters on account that Machines really don't have any decent bricks that would work only to serve as a drop for this card. The odds of actually pulling a brick in machine decks (unless you run Ancient Gear Golem with no way to summon it) is extremely slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshai Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 you can send one Machine type monster (max level 6) from your deck to the GY and if you do add different monsters to your hand form your GY whose total level is inferior or equal to the level of the monster sent to the GY then pay 700 LP for each monster added to your hand by this effect.HOPT PSCT MAGIC HATSUDO ScrapingSpell - Quick-playSend 1 Level 6 or lower Machine monster from your Deck to the GY, and if you do, add monsters with different names from your GY to your hand whose total Level is equal to or less than the monster you sent to the GY, then lose 700 LP for each monster added to your hand this way. You can only activate 1 "Scraping" per turn. Anyways its... an interesting card. Technically you can just add the monster you sent to the GY, and on top of that with the utility of adding any monsters from your GY to your hand, this card is going to be used in ways you probably didn't think of. My recommendation is making the monsters you add from your GY to your hand archetype specific and then making the monsters in the archetype Level 3 or lower Machines. Its still really versatile but you if you balance your archetype to be more toolboxy then it should be fine. I will warn you that having a card like this will mean you'll probably be having a weaker monster lineup, so keep that in mind when designing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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