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[PAC] PokéFire Growlithe & Arcanine

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Those of you who are unaware of what the PAC tag is, it serves the exact same function as what the AGM one does for stuff in there (albeit PAC has a cleaner slate to play with in terms of design at the moment). 
 
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PokéFire - Growlithe
Level 4 | FIRE | Beast | Effect
1600/1000
Monsters your opponent controls lose ATK/DEF equal to their Level/Rank x 100. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle: Your opponent takes damage equal to half that monster's ATK.
 
PokéFire - Arcanine
Level 7 | FIRE | Beast | Effect
2600/1800
You can Special Summon this card from your hand by Tributing 1 Level 4 or lower "PokéFire" monster you control. Monsters your opponent controls lose ATK/DEF equal to their Level/Rank x 100 or Link Rating x 200. This card can attack your opponent directly, but any battle damage it inflicts to your opponent is halved. If this card was Special Summoned by Tributing "PokéFire - Growlithe", it gains this effect.
● When this card is Special Summoned, monsters your opponent controls with equal or lesser original ATK than this card's current ATK cannot activate their effects until the end of this turn.  
● If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle: Your opponent takes damage equal to that monster's ATK.
 
 
Design notes and stuff
 
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On their own, these are fairly tame and straightforward. As far as I can tell, they really don’t have much help in irl yugioh from their type/attribute, so for the most part most real benefit will come from the PAC.

The permanent stat reduction effect is one that is actually really good, but not seen too much. It actually couples pretty well with Magcargo and possibly lets the latter’s destruction effect go off a little more often. On its own, Growlithe gives you a means to run over most level 4s, though it fairly unlikely that the opp would just keep a random 4 on the field (but I suppose control monsters like Denko Sekka or Thunder King Rai-Oh, or stun 4s like the Koa’ki Mierus this would be good against).

Arcanine just takes Growlithe’s Effect up to 11, pretty much letting it run over anything conventionally. Being able to inflict an easy 1300 is nothing to laugh at either (especially with the time rules).

Despite that, both are kinda “eh”. They really are just big beaters at heart so they don’t add much to a board, nor are they great at breaking boards. Growlithe has the benefit of the PAC’s Lavaridge Gym (pretty much enabling it to run over pretty much anything under level 8/Rank 7), but that’s pretty much it so far. Can’t really say much to change it without hurting flavor though.
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In hindsight, I did consider on upping Arcanine's stat drop to 200 x Level/Rank and 300 for Link Rating, but iffy on if that would be pushing the border. Or just leave the stat drops as-is, and then give Arcanine the ability to stop monsters with lower ATK than it from triggering their effects during their summoning turn. That would probably fit better thematically for Intimidate, even if the stat drop technically works for in-game. 

 

But as a whole for the real game, FIRE Beasts are rare (if not being supported), but attribute it to Konami not designing archetypes and stuff for them. Now if they were Beast-WARRIOR, Growlithe would be getting Wolfbark support and stuff. But we'd be breaking a ton of flavor as they aren't human shape. 

 

 

I'll probably look it over in the morning; not at 2 am when I want to sleep.


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Growlithe

 

Pretty ok beater. Effectively 2k+ stats when taking into account the weakening, but that's not too great to be honest. With Lavaridge and Torkoal, however that easily becomes about a ~3k beater with protection from targetting and card destruction. Burn damage is never bad. PokéFire just really enjoys good level-4 beatsticks.

 

 

 

Arcanine

 

Arcanine is a big beatstick and I actually like that, but its not good. Easy to summon and a "finisher", however, which is nice. Easy acces to at least 1300 damage is nothing to laugh at when it is on a card that is otherwise a good beater. Potential to do 2600 damage every time you destroy a monster is not bad either. Wouldn't change anything about it as I don't think every card should be the best card ever and I can see this card having some playability in beatdown decks.

 

 

Both cards are also quite good with Magcargo.

 

I think they're fine as is. A slight buff to Arcanine wouldn't really harm anyone (though I didn't really understand wether you meant that you wanted to make it so that monster effects are negated the turn Arcanine is summoned or if you wanted to make it a watered down "Skip-One Turn" on legs with the latter being not so to my liking tbh) and I would highly advice against giving Growlith some kind of effect which has to do with advantage.


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The latter one, though taking into consideration that Intimidate only triggers when the user switches into battle, adjusting it to its summoning turn only would be the better idea. Otherwise, if I do give it the Lose One Turn thing, then it'll hurt more (meaning anything with less ATK than Arcanine cannot activate its effects until the next turn if it's still here, but unless they're super strong bosses with buffs, yeah)

 

Can just add that effect to Arcanine as a bonus upon evolving. 

 

 

Growlithe will stay as-is. 


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I am fine with these cards as they are now. In my view, they could be made official.

 

I refer to my original review but this time I'm fine with Arcanine.


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To be fair though, you are technically a week past the bumping limit for the section w/out reviews, though I'll excuse it since yeah, I did update the cards accordingly and made a note of it in club.

 

But if you're fine with making these two official, then alright. 


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